ChoosableOne
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Good luck for those who prefer Series S.
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PlayStation Only Gamers...Will You Buy a Xbox Series for Starfield?
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Mr. Banana
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Naughty dog are undisputed gods when it comes to animation but have flattened into one genre and their huge success has unluckily influenced the entire Sony lineup for several years. I hope to see them try other genres at least to be able to judge them qualitatively. I have very few doubts about the success that Starfield will have especially going up that it will also launch on PC. Neogaf's narrative that nobody wants to buy a console for this game shouldn't surprise anyone a bit as neogaf's 900 votes rate the Ms conference sufficiently versus the 111 thousand votes of the pool made by Geoff Keighley where we see it rated 10 and 9 by majority. We know the reasons
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Flutta
Banned
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
After seeing the footage released.
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Well this is good news. It appears the worst of the trolls not only wouldn't buy an Xbox to play it, they don't like Bethesda games and/or have never played their games and won't play it on their gaming PCs.
Since they won't be playing Starfield they won't have any reason to be trolling all the Starfield threads and telling those of us that love Bethesda games, how bad it is.
Since they won't be playing Starfield they won't have any reason to be trolling all the Starfield threads and telling those of us that love Bethesda games, how bad it is.
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Mr. Banana
Banned
Most of neogaf nerds already have an Xbox or gamepass on PC even if they will never admit it. Trust me the enthusiasts will all play Starfield
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Andrenicks
Neo Member
I never liked bethesda rpg's (i prefer Gothic series at times) so, nah
CrimsonSquall
Member
I was going to on Steamdeck but big NAH after that combat and dull af graphics
SenjutsuSage
Banned
No.. because I saw the trailer also. Much of the animosity around this game has to do with console wars if we're being honest. That doesn't mean people can't have fair and legitimate criticisms or concerns, but there was far more shown to be excited from that trailer than not. Significantly so. In fact, one of the biggest criticisms by far from many posters here that I've read in nearly every starfield thread was them mocking claims by Todd Howard that the engine had been improved to the degree he said, or that many of the game design decisions he said they were making to design a more hardcore RPG were just talk or actually a thing. Well, this trailer, if people pay attention, quite literally answers and even shuts down many of those same regular criticisms dismissing what Todd Howard had been saying. Everything from character and environment fidelity, animations, the use of photogrammetry, that it would be structured more like Skyrim than Fallout, it's literally all there in the trailer.
I loved the trailer and I had some criticisms and concerns, but I see those as things that will be addressed come release. Biggest issue was of course the framerate. I actually rather liked the gunplay. It's looking like it's going to be very good. And they've gone further in many respects than I ever expected them to, one of which was backgrounds and traits. And the highlight visual weapon customization system of Fallout is intact, it's a much better looking game presentation wise. Hell, their cutscene direction seems vastly improved over prior games. This game seems to have more cinematic flair to it than their previous ones.
But even believing what I believe about why some are so angry at this awesome looking game, I'm still not crazy enough to take some people being upset about it being an xbox exclusive at face value. I know many will end up playing the game on their PC or getting an Xbox to play it. Hell, many already have, and I feel that will be pretty evident upon release.
Stare-Bear
Banned
No but I’ll probably get it on steam
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
I'm sure peeps hate on kingthrash's analyses on youtube, but he points out some ridiculous stuff. No damage indicator. The guy almost died during that gameplay and you couldn't even tell without starring at the health bar. Also if you shoot while moving forward, the bullets come from over your head instead of out of your gun. When he ejects the shotgun shells, the bullets are still in the shells. etc. There's a lot of lack of attention to detail. Hell even the room with that woman that talks to you, it's day time outside the windows and night time overhead.
Manwithoutfear
Member
hell I sold my series x and ps5 lol. I'm ok waiting a few years to play PlayStation games on PC.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Wont be long and you wont have to wait on them but thats for another thread
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Anyone answering "yes" to this is fiscally irresponsible.
You can either play on PC or via Xcloud for MUCH cheaper than a XSX/S
You can either play on PC or via Xcloud for MUCH cheaper than a XSX/S
Hawking Radiation
Member
Already have gaming PC so no longer need any Series consoles.
That said Xbox will still get my money because I'm going to subscribe to GamePass to play this.
That said Xbox will still get my money because I'm going to subscribe to GamePass to play this.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
"1000 planets".
Uh-huh, like a planet's worth of content isn't enough?
Claims like this should set alarm bells off, because there's literally no way that any developer can split focus and manpower 1000 ways without there being a real cost to the quality of output.
Even if everything is procedurally generated, just doing basic playtesting on 1000 iterations of the same structure is a huge time-sink that inevitably is going to resolve to creating an acceptable "average" result across the spread.
Not saying that its going to suck, just making a strong suggestion that expectations should be adjusted. Just consider what the reality of the proposition being made is.
Uh-huh, like a planet's worth of content isn't enough?
Claims like this should set alarm bells off, because there's literally no way that any developer can split focus and manpower 1000 ways without there being a real cost to the quality of output.
Even if everything is procedurally generated, just doing basic playtesting on 1000 iterations of the same structure is a huge time-sink that inevitably is going to resolve to creating an acceptable "average" result across the spread.
Not saying that its going to suck, just making a strong suggestion that expectations should be adjusted. Just consider what the reality of the proposition being made is.
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Topher
Gold Member
If I didn't already have an XSX then yes I more than likely would. I'm a big fan of Bethesda's games.
Unfortunately you will have trolls who haven't even played it dogging the game just like we had in the Horizon Forbidden West threads. I have no problem with folks who have concrete criticisms as long as they are actually playing the game and not watching some playthrough on youtube so they can pretend they are qualified to talk shit. Hate that crap.
Hardly, but a lot of PS5 gamers here on this forum do. We've even posted pics.
Unfortunately you will have trolls who haven't even played it dogging the game just like we had in the Horizon Forbidden West threads. I have no problem with folks who have concrete criticisms as long as they are actually playing the game and not watching some playthrough on youtube so they can pretend they are qualified to talk shit. Hate that crap.
Hardly, but a lot of PS5 gamers here on this forum do. We've even posted pics.
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ReBurn
Gold Member
My expectation is that the bulk of them will be mostly barren other than being places you go to scrounge for minerals and crafting supplies. They're going to be there to support grinding. I hope I'm wrong.
Mr. Banana
Banned
did you play no man's sky recently? from what you writing I'm not sure you did it. I highly recommend you take a look at it
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SuperSaiyanWithDreads
Banned
Nah i’ll build a PC tho or play it off my SAMSUNG TV WITH GAMEPASS
Crispy Gamer
Member
Have both systems I'll play it when it launch but the showing wasn't good to me I expected to be blown away, this is Bethesda's first new IP in forever so I definitely had my expectations super high. Happy for people who thought it looked amazing it just didn't come close to capturing me yet hopefully subsequent showings are a lot better but as of right now I wouldn't buy it thankfully I have gamepass maybe it'll click once it's in my hands.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
So, a planet in NMS is on par in terms of content depth and detail to Skyrim or Fallout?
This is my point about expectation management.
Lognor
Banned
Like I said, rarely does a single game sell a console. There are the rare exceptions like Breath of the Wild that actually do sell millions of consoles by itself, but usually its the entire catalog. Maybe Starfield alone won't sell millions of consoles on its own, but in addition to Forza Motorsports, Redfall, Indiana Jones, and all of the other high quality content releasing in the next 12 months, Starfield certainly has the potential to help move consoles.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
For ages I've seen people mention it and I was always clueless about what it was.
Now I've seen it I can see the potential of why some might be excited by it but I see why it's been delayed.
But it's not something I'd be interested in.
Especially in its current form.
Now I've seen it I can see the potential of why some might be excited by it but I see why it's been delayed.
But it's not something I'd be interested in.
Especially in its current form.
Varteras
Gold Member
Even if I was PS-only I wouldn't buy an Xbox for Starfield. I have a good PC and I still won't be buying it. I'm just not a fan of Bethesda's games. No matter how hard I try to like them. Oblivion was the one and only time I enjoyed one of their games and that had a lot more to do with me not being very familiar with big, open-world titles at the time. So it was very new and exciting. I've seen many other games since then that do such things in a far more appealing way for me. The gameplay we got to see of Starfield just didn't tickle me. To be perfectly honest, it looked rather bland and boring. Especially the space combat. But, if Microsoft runs one of their $1 for 3-months of PC Game Pass deals again after it releases, I'll probably give it a shot just to see if there is something about it that grips me.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
I bought a SX one week before the Starfield delay. Thought it was a lock for November 22. Been nothing but disappointed with MS since, including seeing this conference with no Halo news, Hellblade 2. Starfield looks cool but I'm worried about the shooting mechanics. I didn't expect them to look worse than Fallout 4 ..looks extremely stiff and unresponsive when you shoot enemies ..
Forza Motorsport looked great though.
Forza Motorsport looked great though.
Long Far Gone
Member
I have a PC which should run Starfield reasonably well at 1080p, or maybe 1440p, I see no reason to buy a console for this. The trailer was not overly impressive and I'm concerned by the suspect framerate, combat and animations that have barely evolved from Fallout 4. I'll definately wait a couple of months before buying, I have a feeling this is going to have bugs or something wrong with it that will only be talked about 2 or 3 weeks after launch; that seems to be the modus operandi for a lot of 'modern' games.
kyussman
Member
After being PlayStation only for the last two gens the Bethesda aquisition had me thinking I would certainly be needing an Xbox this gen........but after first Arkane loosing the plot with Redfall and now this I'm not so sure anymore.I don't have either console yet though so I'll have to wait and see what else Xbox can deliver......they have enough studios now,it must be only a matter of time before they get me interested.
Badlucktroll
Member
I will probably play starfield, but to me it looks like bmovie destiny 1/no mans sky. I hope it doesnt release all fucked up and buggy 
Mr. Banana
Banned
No it isn't but I assure you that if you try NMS today you would never complain about "there is nothing to do" or "it's all the same" but we are talking about NMS I expect from Bethesda another level of interactivity since they are still the undisputed kings of the genre.
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FF:Enhanced_Reality
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No Man's Skyrim - no thanks.
Stuart360
Member
I mean i just watched DrDisrespect literally salavating over the deep dive a couple of hours ago, and i honestly cant remember the last time he's been anything but negative when watching that kind of preview content.
Many on this forum are as transparent as water, and just as wet. Like someone said in another thread, this place is slowly dying by the console war shite.
But as Catlady just said, we now know who has zero interest in this game, so of course we wont see them shitting up Starfield threads from now on.....or will we?
Stuart360
Member
You dont need to guess as it shows in the video. The planets will obviously be procedural, but have 2 or 3 'points of interest' to explore, while having resources and stuff scattered about. If you look you can see them in the vid when Todd is explaining.
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CliffyB's Cock Holster
The point is that, for me anyway, making grandiose claims of scope has a tendency to backfire horribly because it creates unattainable expectations. Hell, some people are still salty about NMS all these years later.
Procedural generation is great, but it has its limits, and when you start making claims of four-figure volume it basically may as well say that this content is procedural. And as I pointed out, the claim is always going to be somewhat fallacious unless the amount of time and manpower expended on creating this huge expanse is equal to what would be spent hand-crafting it. When the numbers get that high its simply impossible to give it the same degree of focus; the tech helps a ton but its fundamentally unable to appreciate its output in the same way that a person does.
This of course is fine when simply creating terrain or other quasi-natural structures, because we don't expect to see design and intent in the natural world. We expect to see the aggregate result of ecology and other systems in a biosphere. However, that's not the same as something that is clearly built or engineered by an intelligent external agency
3liteDragon
Member
No, I’m trying to get a 3080 laptop before this comes out.
Based Department
Member
These aren’t invitations to console war, move along
Ofc they'll vote no, they think DLCs sold as 70$ standalone games like miles morales and ragnarok or remasters of remasters like TLOU part 1 are the only true system sellers
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magnumpy
Member
I've found that one console is more than enough for me. in my case, PlayStation. that means I miss out on notable Nintendo and xbox titles, but honestly my plate is so full that I don't have enough time to play all the PlayStation titles I want to as it is.
honestly how much time can you dedicate gaming (on any platform) in a week? and then there are PC and mobile titles as well. we truly do have an embarrassment of riches
honestly how much time can you dedicate gaming (on any platform) in a week? and then there are PC and mobile titles as well. we truly do have an embarrassment of riches