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[danklord]

Although expensive, I have never regretted the purchase and have found it to be immensely satisfying. The money is spent, but it will hold value, so you can consider the cash parked for now. You'll be able to flip for quite a bit whenever the 5000 series comes out, which is the actual upgrade rhythm to get on.

For now... download games and get hyped! Experience them now on your low-end hardware, so it's all the sweeter when you upgrade.

Also, do you have a compatible PSU and is your case big enough? It's huge. I upgraded from a 3090 and had to get both.

 

[Silver Wattle]

Do you have a high end monitor? People upgrade their GPUs to get more frames/ultra settings when most of the time the better screen has much more of an impact.

This thread is so masturbatory.

 

[Grildon Tundy]

I need a "confused" emote.

Pikachu is my go-to "confused" emote. Not perfect but closer than the others.

 

[chromhound]

It's your life and you can do whatever you want. Life is too short

If it was me tho Or Probably buy stocks

 

[kiphalfton]

I'm cheap, so I've stopped buying a lot of unnecessary crap since moving from a state with no sales tax, to one that has modest sales tax.

I just can't get over having to pay x amount more due to sales tax.

For instance if I were in your shoes, I wouldn't have bought that RTX 4090 simply due to having to pay an extra hundo for just sales tax.

Long story short, maybe move to a state with higher sales tax so you're not buying stupid shit.

 

[Jigsaah]

For that amount, I can build an entire decent gaming rig as a back-up.

Sell it now while it's still valuable, then just wait for the 5080, you're going to want it anyway

Save this message. I WILL NOT BUY THE 5080. Let's see where I'm at Q4 2024.

 

[Jigsaah]

It's your life and you can do whatever you want. Life is too short

If it was me tho Or Probably buy stocks

Yea I got my hand in the market as well. Has the same affect on my tummy. LOL

 

[Grildon Tundy]

Yea I got my hand in the market as well. Has the same affect on my tummy. LOL

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Here's a link that'll help. 4090s should all come with anti-nausea products by default.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I paid $1700 for my 3090 back near the launch of that one right in the heart of the pandemic. It still works great for me today. If you buy a good product and it lasts a long time, you have nothing to regret. I'm expecting Hogwarts Legacy to perform well on it next week.

 

[Wildebeest]

Could be worse. You could have overpaid for a second hand crypto mining GPU that has about a month of life left in it before it burns out.

 

[Raphael]

Still rocking that 960 2gb lol.

 

[GHG]

It's your life and you can do whatever you want. Life is too short

If it was me tho Or Probably buy stocks

Better to blow your money on hookers than it is to throw it into this market.

The ROI is infinitely superior.

 

[MikeM]

$1,700 less the money you get for the 3080.
If you can afford it, who cares? Gaming is a hobby and has costs associated with it.

 

[nemiroff]

Almost all the various models have been widely available in Norway for the last month or so. But of course the prices starts at about 2100 USD (converted).. I'm still holding back due to the coil whine issues - and because I don't need a 4090. But I'm homing in on the Gigabyte Gaming OC which seems to be generally coil whine free. Pulling the trigger seems imminent.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Almost all the various models have been widely available in Norway for the last month or so. But of course the prices starts at about 2100 USD (converted).. I'm still holding back due to the coil whine issues - and because I don't need a 4090. But I'm homing in on the Gigabyte Gaming OC which seems to be generally coil whine free. Pulling the trigger seems imminent.

That’s the one I got too. 0 coil whine over here.

 

[Skifi28]

Still rocking that 960 2gb lol.

And I thought my 1060 was ancient, damn.

 

[Shadowstar39]

If you're using a 4k 120hz OLED then you NEED a 4090 for uktra settings. I have a LG OLED and my 4080 doesn't quite cut it so I run a lower custom resolution....all that said, if you are buying this to use with anything less than 4k 120, you have in fact wasted your money.

How much do these 4k 120 oled monitors cost? As I know cheaper side 1440p is still $300 minimum and a quick glance for 4k 120hz oled is showing $1,100+ , insane amount of money to pay for a monitor and gpu, in these high inflationary times.

I guess if you are wealthy (and I envy you, who wouldn't want those monitors). I got bills and a desktop/tech job with a peasly salary that isn't rising if at all. Will be content to live in 1080/1440p 3060ti land for as long as I can. Shit my tvs are all still 1080p as it seems wastefull to get rid of a perfectly good 1080p set.

 

[sono]

Sounds like buyer's remorse to me

You need 4k panels for that btw

 

[BennyBlanco]

How much do these 4k 120 oled monitors cost? As I know cheaper side 1440p is still $300 minimum and a quick glance for 4k 120hz oled is showing $1,100+ , insane amount of money to pay for a monitor and gpu, in these high inflationary times.

I guess if you are wealthy (and I envy you, who wouldn't want those monitors). I got bills and a desktop/tech job with a peasly salary that isn't rising if at all. Will be content to live in 1080/1440p 3060ti land for as long as I can. Shit my tvs are all still 1080p as it seems wastefull to get rid of a perfectly good 1080p set.

I think most of us are just using LG Oled TVs. They’re pretty cheap all things considered.

 

[DaGwaphics]

Real life photo of Jigsaah after contributing to the fall of gaming by succumbing to the greedy corps pushing out overpriced GPUs:

Just kidding enjoy your new card.

 

[Strider Highwind]

I went from a 2080 super to a 3090 in my main machine , and a 3080 ftw 12gb model in the other machine to joe. 4090(same model op has) in my main machine and a 4080 in my other one lol

i'm a gpu whore tho i admit it

 

[chromhound]

Still rocking that 960 2gb lol.

 

[Jigsaah]

Real life photo of Jigsaah after contributing to the fall of gaming by succumbing to the greedy corps pushing out overpriced GPUs:

Just kidding enjoy your new card.

Say it ain't sooooo! I'm sorry. I'm weak.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Eh fuck It, enjoy. I spent a lot for a 3080 Ti back at launch too. It stings but it goes away. I’ve spent more just for my headphones, even more for dac/amp, and hell, let’s not even get into electric guitar + amp + pedals.

If you have fun, so be it.

Some friends I have spend way way more for quads, ski-doo or useless luxury cars who depreciate way faster.

 

[REDRZA MWS]

i say enjoy it too. im eocking a 2080ti and i plan to upgrade in the next few months.

 

[Rubicaant]

In a moment of weakness I spotted a MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio for $1649.99. 50 bucks over MSRP. I couldn't stop myself from clicking on it. Look at the product description, thought of the power, and could not contain myself.

After purchasing I went straight to youtube reviewing all the comparison videos trying to muster up some modicum of justification for what I just did to my bank account.

"I already have a 3080 do I really need this."

No, of course I don't. I game fine on my current rig.

I make this thread not to brag or throw it people's face. I come for support. I come to discuss the pro's and cons and to hear any advice you folks might have.

Am I a fool or am I officially a premium gaming enthusiast who should just say fuck it, YOLO and be thankful that I actually have the ability to do this. Could I have spent the 1700+ dollars better.

Bills are paid, food on the table, no kids to speak of. What do you guys think?

Do what i do. Tell yourself you'll just sell your old card to help recuperate the cost. then throw it in a box and never think of it again.

Honestly if you're 4k gaming, a 4090 is an amazing card. 3080, while still a beast, does struggle a bit with some of the latest games pushing 4k.

 

[Rendered Tangent]

I had a chance to get a 4070 ti last night.
I told myself to wait and see what 5080 / ti delivers.
Currently with a 2060 super, so the upgrade for me will be big.

Do you have a CPU, and a high refresh rate screen, so it would make sense to really/warrant take advantage of new hardware?

One time, on another site, I read a post from someone saying they currently had a 1660 but were getting a 3090 and when asked by another poster about their set up it turned out they only had 8gb RAM and were still going to be running game via a cheap 1080p 60hz screen.

Which made no sense, and I had to explain that such a card was complete overkill for 1080-60 gaming and a waste of time, and that they should make an new, better quality 1440p panel with 144hz their priority and then buy at least another 8gb RAM, and perhaps even a better CPU.

Then, reassess the situation, start saving up again to make the money back for a 3090 or buy something cheaper that is still a significant upgrade over the original 1660 they started with.

 

[Slicker than your average]

Fool.

Also Nvidia doesn't deserve to make money on these overpriced pieces of shit.

 

[lukilladog]

From 13 years ago:

"runs perfectly @1280x1024 max settings." ... 42% higher resolution than consoles on an $80 hd4670.




To: "i expected to see above 60fps all time, I did not believe it was so demanding"... with upscaling on $1650 card:




Pc used to offer such a good value, enjoy the monopoly I guess.

 

[bender]

Return it and go to Vegas for some blackjack and hookers.

 

[//DEVIL//]

yeahhh 980ti too.
playing borderlands 3 @ 4k/40 right now.

gonna get a used 3090 soon though.

what ?
980ti... playing borderlands 3 at 4k 40 frames ?



what kind of magical 980ti do you have ? lol

 

[grfunkulus]

I'm pretty sure the 4090 has the worst perf/dollar, cost/per frame of any Ada card. At msrp the best value is the 4070Ti followed by the 4080, and lastly the 4090.

Congrats on the card. If you have the money and love PC gaming, then why not? I would kill to have a 4090 for PCVR.

You're wrong. As long as you're not cpu bound, the 4090 equals or beats the 4080 in cost per frame. That's the whole basis for the uproar of the 4080's $1,200 MSRP. It needed to be $1,000-1,100 to present any kind of cost per frame advantage over the 4090. It was essentially designed to push people, a lot of people, towards an absurdly expensive card. Would the boost from a 3080 be nice and very noticeable in modern AAA games with either card over my 3080? Sure. Do I need it? Of course not. The primary game I play (85% of my play time) is Destiny 2 and I can already run it pretty much maxed at 4k at a consistent 117fps (capped with gsync on Oled). There was more benefit in upgrading my 9700k than in the 4080/4090. Definitely wait if you can. Hopefully, Nvidia will have learned a least something of a lesson with sales slowing significantly this month (and presumably staying down, as more mid range options become available). Probably wishful thinking.

But at least the next gen cards with the performance of the 4090 will have the efficiency of the 4080 or even better, so I won't have to upgrade my 850 gold S tier PSU (probably wouldn't anyway but still, it's something).

 

[Knightime_X]

Do you have a CPU, and a high refresh rate screen, so it would make sense to really/warrant take advantage of new hardware?

One time, on another site, I read a post from someone saying they currently had a 1660 but were getting a 3090 and when asked by another poster about their set up it turned out they only had 8gb RAM and were still going to be running game via a cheap 1080p 60hz screen.

Which made no sense, and I had to explain that such a card was complete overkill for 1080-60 gaming and a waste of time, and that they should make an new, better quality 1440p panel with 144hz their priority and then buy at least another 8gb RAM, and perhaps even a better CPU.

Then, reassess the situation, start saving up again to make the money back for a 3090 or buy something cheaper that is still a significant upgrade over the original 1660 they started with.

I have a 1440p screen with 165hz refresh rate. I have it capped with 120hz.
CPU wise, its a R7 3800x

But by the time I get an Nvidia rtx 5k card, I plan to get a stronger rig to go with it.
4k doesn't add much outside of higher temps and lower performance.

1440p all day long!

 

[CrustyBritches]

You're wrong. As long as you're not cpu bound, the 4090 equals or beats the 4080 in cost per frame. That's the whole basis for the uproar of the 4080's $1,200 MSRP. It needed to be $1,000-1,100 to present any kind of cost per frame advantage over the 4090. It was essentially designed to push people, a lot of people, towards an absurdly expensive card. Would the boost from a 3080 be nice and very noticeable in modern AAA games with either card over my 3080? Sure. Do I need it? Of course not. The primary game I play (85% of my play time) is Destiny 2 and I can already run it pretty much maxed at 4k at a consistent 117fps (capped with gsync on Oled). There was more benefit in upgrading my 9700k than in the 4080/4090. Definitely wait if you can. Hopefully, Nvidia will have learned a least something of a lesson with sales slowing significantly this month (and presumably staying down, as more mid range options become available). Probably wishful thinking.

But at least the next gen cards with the performance of the 4090 will have the efficiency of the 4080 or even better, so I won't have to upgrade my 850 gold S tier PSU (probably wouldn't anyway but still, it's something).

My sources: 4K perf/dollar techpowerup and 4K cost/frame techspot.

 

[LaughingStock]

I don't think it's worth it. But you can afford it...

 

[grfunkulus]

My sources: 4K perf/dollar techpowerup and 4K cost/frame techspot.

Techspot which is essentially hardware unboxed had them functionally equal at 4k MEDIUM settings. 4k maxed with ray tracing and the 4090 would pull ahead. You're going to be maxing out most of the titles out there if you're playing at 4k120hz. The problem is obvious. $1,200 for a card that has the same or worse value proposition is a horrible product because it has the price of a halo product with none of the value of a xx80 series product. It is truly abominable and unless you absolutely need to upgrade to something right now, you should NOT buy it if you want to do anything to stop Nvidia's anti-consumer practices. AMD sucks too

 

[CrustyBritches]

Techpowerup which is essentially hardware unboxed had them functionally equal at 4k MEDIUM settings. 4k maxed with ray tracing and the 4090 would pull ahead. You're going to be maxing out most of the titles out there if you're playing at 4k120hz.

It’s not my understanding that tpu tested at medium settings. Links please. Just checked: “All games tested at highest settings”

 

[lh032]

Future proofing is key

there wont be "future proofing", when Nvidia release the next "Next gen" GPU, alot of PCMR would buy it asap.

 

[grfunkulus]

It’s not my understanding that tpu tested at medium settings. Links please

Sorry, meant Techspot. Steve works for both. Not sure what test they did but here's the recent testing. Given that it's not hard that hard to get a 4090 at MSRP any more if you really want it, no one should be buying the 4080. If you have 4080 money, you have 4090 money. The halo card being the same 'value' is just making the consumer a sucker because they're admitting they could have priced the step down way lower. The Titan or xx90 class card is supposed to be for the for the person that doesn't care about paying 2x the price for 10-15% more performance and more VRAM

 

[three_muffins]

No one here can give you peace of mind and a valid justification for your purchase.
You only get more opinions.

Peace of mind comes from within.

 

[Fredrik]

Yea I got my hand in the market as well. Has the same affect on my tummy. LOL

Why is that? Feels great in the tummy! The stock market has been awesome so far this year! I’ve already earned back at least half my overpriced european 4090 through Nvidia stocks, stock has gone up +44% in a month

 

[Valonquar]

$1700 is way way way too much for a graphics card under normal circumstances. $1700 to upgrade from a 3080 to a 4090 is just a waste.

What does your gaming space look like?
What type of chair do you use?
When is the last time you bought a piece of furniture that isn't made of particle board?

Fuck even $1700 worth of actual games to play on your 3080 would have been better.

 

[bender]

No one here can give you peace of mind and a valid justification for your purchase.
You only get more opinions.

Peace of mind comes from within.

Row Adds

 

[FeralEcho]

Do whatever makes you happy I say,If you game alot then it's the right choice.We should invest in our hobbies otherwise why the fuck are we even working.

 

[Lasha]

Gen-Z really changed the peacocking game. The humblebrag is has been assassinated by the self-deprecating celebratory cry for support.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Sorry, meant Techspot. Steve works for both. Not sure what test they did but here's the recent testing. Given that it's not hard that hard to get a 4090 at MSRP any more if you really want it, no one should be buying the 4080. If you have 4080 money, you have 4090 money. The halo card being the same 'value' is just making the consumer a sucker because they're admitting they could have priced the step down way lower. The Titan or xx90 class card is supposed to be for the for the person that doesn't care about paying 2x the price for 10-15% more performance and more VRAM

I'm going by MSRP. Using TPU perf/dollar at MSRP, not typical price. For TechSpot using the 4070Ti review with 16-game 4K average at Very High/Ultra settings, not the 6-game 4K tests at medium settings used in the value article. Once again, using MSRP, not typical price.

TechSpot Cost Per Frame(MSRP). 4K 16-game average, Very High/Ultra settings: 4070Ti = $9.19 | 4080 = $11.00 | 4090 = $11.26
TPU Cost Per Frame(MSRP). 4K average, Highest Settings: 4070Ti = $8.08 | 4080 = $9.60 | 4090 = $10.06

 

[grfunkulus]

I'm going by MSRP. Using TPU perf/dollar at MSRP, not typical price. For TechSpot using the 4070Ti review with 16-game 4K average at Very High/Ultra settings, not the 6-game 4K tests at medium settings used in the value article. Once again, using MSRP, not typical price.

TechSpot Cost Per Frame(MSRP). 4K 16-game average, Very High/Ultra settings: 4070Ti = $9.19 | 4080 = $11.00 | 4090 = $11.26
TPU Cost Per Frame(MSRP). 4K average, Highest Settings: 4070Ti = $8.08 | 4080 = $9.60 | 4090 = $10.06

Right, margin of error stuff almost between 4080 and 4090. Do we know if ray tracing was on and at what settings? Do we know how much and to what extent any of these games are CPU bound on the 4090? I think the point still stands. It's sad that the 4070ti which is actually just the "so-much-maligned-it-had-to-be-canceled by even the shameless Nvidia" 12gb 4080 looks like a comparatively good value. There are no bad GPUs (well kinda), only bad price-points. The 4080 just happens to have an exceptionally bad one as the card that should have been a spiritual successor to the 1080ti and 3080 but wasn't. Technological progress (and the 4080 is a STUNNINGLY efficient card) should yield more for less. Not more for more. Steve at Gamer's Nexus summarized this perfectly-- you can't say you moved the needle when you moved the entire guage.

 

[CGNoire]

In a moment of weakness I spotted a MSI 4090 Gaming X Trio for $1649.99. 50 bucks over MSRP. I couldn't stop myself from clicking on it. Look at the product description, thought of the power, and could not contain myself.

After purchasing I went straight to youtube reviewing all the comparison videos trying to muster up some modicum of justification for what I just did to my bank account.

"I already have a 3080 do I really need this."

No, of course I don't. I game fine on my current rig.

I make this thread not to brag or throw it people's face. I come for support. I come to discuss the pro's and cons and to hear any advice you folks might have.

Am I a fool or am I officially a premium gaming enthusiast who should just say fuck it, YOLO and be thankful that I actually have the ability to do this. Could I have spent the 1700+ dollars better.

Bills are paid, food on the table, no kids to speak of. What do you guys think?

No worries Ill take that 3080 off your hands

 

[Platinumstorm]

I've always found that if I feel poorly about doing something it's a bad decision.

 

[Tarin02543]

I’ll be writing off my 3060 in 2028.