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[hemo memo]

Sad as they seem intelligent. Well. They do realize the game sold millions right? DF what are you doing? Let me guess, 8-4 Play aren’t going to cover it either because of that purple site thread.

 

[Tripolygon]

Fuck ‘em, then. Will be unsubscribing from their YouTube channel.

So you could almost say you are "canceling" them? Lol

DF riding the woke train for a long time now. Mostly Alex i think

The whole of DF has always been a progressive outlet.

 

[OuterLimits]

Seems like a terrible business decision since it is one of the biggest releases of the year and their video would attract significant views both immediately and probably throughout the year.

However, aren't a couple of them active on Era?(or used to be). Perhaps they started posting there to merely cultivate an audience for their business, or perhaps they are firm believers like others there. Either way, this can't be a wise move long run. This certainly won't be the last big game the Reee crowd has unhinged problems with.

To be fair, probably a significant number of people on Era would be happy to discuss the game(and are playing it now). However, the lunatic Admin and mods run the show of course.

 

[RoadHazard]

These must be isolated cases or soemhting as we know what Steam users are like, the reviews would be full of negative user reviews if the game was a technical mess, like always happens on Steam.

High end 4080 -


mid range 3060ti -


Low end gtx 1650 -


Patato GT 1030 -


This is a lot better than some PC games of the last couple of years.

Holy shit, looks like a PS2 game on the potato PC. Guess we know how it will look on Switch!

 

[Serge85]

Unsubbed, fuck them.

 

[Mr Moose]

Is there any confirmation for this? i couldnt find it elsewhere

From earlier there was this which doesn't say if they will or won't:

From a recent Patreon email. Hmmm that last bit is a bit strange. If they have chosen to not cover based on the controversy surrounding the game then it's simply a terrible business calculus on their part and very unprofessional.

 

[Skifi28]

Holy shit, looks like a PS2 game on the potato PC. Guess we know how it will look on Switch!

 

[NickFire]

I'm on the side of play and review what the fuck you want and that extends to the folks that don't want to play or review it, but the reason I say they're in tough position is because they are deep in the ResetEra community. They will burn that bridge to one the biggest communities thus a bad business move on their part. Same for smaller sites and voices more community driven. I understand why they're not touching it.

I know why they are playing hot potato and pretending they couldn’t buy it early this week too. But I think they are pandering to cyber bullies and have no problem with that being called out. Hoping to make money by pandering to bullies is not an excuse for supporting bullies in my book.

 

[FoxMcChief]

DF have been great for us PC gamers in our fight against stuttering. No need to get rude to these guys for this. Live and let live

I’m not gonna get overly upset at them, but I will call cowards, cowards. And you know they’re only doing this out of fear.

 

[Rudius]

So you could almost say you are "canceling" them? Lol

Canceling cancelers is fair game.

 

[phant0m]

I'm on the side of play and review what the fuck you want and that extends to the folks that don't want to play or review it, but the reason I say they're in tough position is because they are deep in the ResetEra community. They will burn that bridge to one the biggest communities thus a bad business move on their part. Same for smaller sites and voices more community driven. I understand why they're not touching it.

except most of resetera is playing HL and doesn't give a fuck about the "boycott". christ, it was the 2nd most played game (ccu) on steam yesterday.

there is a reason they (Era mods) don't actually poll the community on decisions like banning discussion. there's 58,000 members on that site. i'd be surprised if even 8,000 truly supported a discussion ban.

 

[Banjo64]

Lost a sub and viewer

 

[rofif]

Even if they didn’t receive codes early, it is a really weird business take not to acquire them somehow and put up video asap. The game is out for 2 days now.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

So you could almost say you are "canceling" them? Lol

The whole of DF has always been a progressive outlet.

To do nothing is to let the regressive* agenda win.

 

[mansoor1980]

Imagine if Crysis 4 would have transphobic scandal around the release and this woke crysis psychofan wouldn't be able to cover this game at all lmao

double standards MIGHT prevail if that happens

 

[GHG]

These must be isolated cases or soemhting as we know what Steam users are like, the reviews would be full of negative user reviews if the game was a technical mess, like always happens on Steam.

High end 4080 -


mid range 3060ti -


Low end gtx 1650 -


Patato GT 1030 -


This is a lot better than some PC games of the last couple of years.

Did you even watch what you posted?

Skip to around 3 minutes 10 seconds in the 4080 video, watch and listen.

This video also covers the issue in more detail:





Steam reviews are not available until the official release date of the game and it's being talked about here in the last couple of pages of the thread.

 

[ShadowNate]

It'b be a shame if another channel stepped in, did more professional work, and took on the mantle from now on.

 

[Xenon]

it’s also no surprise about the DF guys as they frequent Era and would face issues there if they touched the game.

I dont see how any reasonable person can survive on that site. But I guess maybe it's penance for their problematic employee demographics.

 

[mcjmetroid]

So you could almost say you are "canceling" them? Lol

The whole of DF has always been a progressive outlet.

I know you're joking buuuuut.

I'm treating it like changing the channel of a TV station when you don't like something versus sending a complaint letter in and trying to get the show off the air.

The modern example is... if you don't like something... unsubscribe... or you try and get it off the internet by doxing or whatever.

 

[phant0m]

Even if they didn’t receive codes early, it is a really weird business take not to acquire them somehow and put up video asap. The game is out for 2 days now.

sometimes their videos do take a while to come out, especially in cases like this where they need to look at multiple modes across xbox, ps, and pc. generally speaking, their videos are of pretty high quality and that shit takes time. i'd imagine outlets that did get codes had it for at least a week.

honestly if they had just said "hey we didn't get an early review code, but we're working on it and should have something out next week. thanks for your patience!" this would be a non-issue.

instead they're playing coy, "maybe we will, maybe we won't. stay tuned to find out!"

 

[smart_brazileiro]

He doesn't take criticism lightly.

He is just a weak man. That's all. Probably been bullied because of his looks and all. Poor soul.

 

[Pagusas]

Their business and they can do what they want, but not covering the biggest game of the year will be costing them revenue and clicks and a big chance of having another, less political entity come in and steal their audience. At the end of the day I respect their choice to choose what they do with their business, even if i disagree with their reasoning.

 

[Fermbiz]

I wonder how many REEturds who bitch and moan about supporting the game, secretly ended up buying it.

 

[Stuart360]

Did you even watch what you posted?

Skip to around 3 minutes 10 seconds in the 4080 video, watch and listen.

This video also covers the issue in more detail:





Steam reviews are not available until the official release date of the game and it's being talked about here in the last couple of pages of the thread.

Well when people say stuttering with PC games, i'm always thinking loading stutter/hitching, shader stutter, which this game doesnt really have.
Yes Zwormz mentions stuttering but watch the frametime graph, its single stutters every so often, which he is very sensitive to.
Its not close to what can happen with UE4 games.

 

[Tripolygon]

I know you're joking buuuuut.

I'm treating it like changing the channel of a TV station when you don't like something versus sending a complaint letter in and trying to get the show off the air.

The modern example is... if you don't like something... unsubscribe... or you try and get it off the internet by doxing or whatever.

This whole thread is a complaint letter trying to get people to unsubscribe from DF. And that includes some asking for DF to be banned.

And yes i am joking, cancel culture is not a thing. You can't cancel anyone.

 

[smart_brazileiro]

Seems like a terrible business decision since it is one of the biggest releases of the year and their video would attract significant views both immediately and probably throughout the year.

However, aren't a couple of them active on Era?(or used to be). Perhaps they started posting there to merely cultivate an audience for their business, or perhaps they are firm believers like others there. Either way, this can't be a wise move long run. This certainly won't be the last big game the Reee crowd has unhinged problems with.

To be fair, probably a significant number of people on Era would be happy to discuss the game(and are playing it now). However, the lunatic Admin and mods run the show of course.

Era had a Digital Foundry Appreciation Thread coupla days ago. Slick move if u ask me. That put the pressure on Eurogamer I assume.

 

[Slicker than your average]

I used to watch DF in the early days but they are so fucking annoying and they also hate having to say anything slightly positive about a game that isn't running on a Playstation.

Sometimes I'd still check out a video but now that they are brave woke warrior allies? Well, now I'll make a point to not give them another view again.

Hope it's hurting them not getting those Hogwarts views. Lots of lost money there lol.

I'm not sure what you're smoking but they've been Xbox shills for a long time now

 

[GHG]

Well when people say stuttering with PC games, i'm always thinking loading stutter/hitching, shader stutter, which this game doesnt really have.
Yes Zwormz mentions stuttering but watch the frametime graph, its single stutters every so often, which he is very sensitive to.
Its not close to what can happen with UE4 games.

This has that. Those of us playing the game have experienced it. This is the situation:

Also some observations while in the open world:

• Tried it without DLSS frame gen with RT on - intermittent stuttering
• Tried it with DLSS Balanced, no frame gen, RT on - intermittent stuttering
• Tried it without RT, without frame gen and without DLSS - no stuttering
• Tried it with RT, DLSS Quality, with frame gen on - no stuttering
• Tried it with RT, no DLSS upscaling, frame gen on - no stuttering

In summary - if you want to play with RT on without DLSS frame gen then you will experience stuttering. At least that is true with my specs anyway.

 

[MMaRsu]

These must be isolated cases or soemhting as we know what Steam users are like, the reviews would be full of negative user reviews if the game was a technical mess, like always happens on Steam.

High end 4080 -


mid range 3060ti -


Low end gtx 1650 -


Patato GT 1030 -


This is a lot better than some PC games of the last couple of years.

Im on a 3070, 32gb ram, 5700x and I constantly get stutters.

I think it has to be Denuvo

 

[Anchovie123]

Game is literally going to sell 10 million+ This whole situation is just stupid.

Pathetic.

 

[MMaRsu]

Wtf are you talking about, all anyone knows is Alex and John aren't interested in covering it. That's their prerogative. DF could get one of their other guys to produce a video if they wanted and may do so.

Their is no evidence that they are scared, that is your confirmation bias. Maybe its just not that important to them and they dont want to deal with potentail blowback covering a property they do not like. They could also drop a video in three days. You are dealing with incomplete information.

Like i stated earlier, this gaf mob is embarassing and ironically is acting in the exact same manner as reee and Twitter. The fact that many can't see that shows that they aren't much different then the people they claim to despise.

Why would they 'not be interested' in covering one of the biggest games of this year?

 

[Aaron Olive]

They're cowards, the game has nothing political and the ones spewing cancel culture are mentally ill, time for some fresh blood to do the pixel counting then.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Sad as they seem intelligent. Well. They do realize the game sold millions right? DF what are you doing? Let me guess, 8-4 Play aren’t going to cover it either because of that purple site thread.

Tech savvy =/= Intelligent

 

[aries_71]

He's a pathetic crybaby. I remember him getting upset when his precious couple of years old LG TV wasn't the bees knees anymore and trying to talk fake news about every other TV available at every opportunity.

He must be one of the most thin-skinned pieces of shit out there.

Wait

Linneman is the biggest cuck in the gaming space. I cannot stress enough how much I loathe this caricature of a man. Chased away by Ree. Came back crying asking for forgiveness and they still didn't want him back.

Wait, Linneman is the fat one or old man?

 

[Jsisto]

I really don’t get this at ALL. Harry Potter is one of those things where the online discourse vs reality could not be further apart. It’s like two different worlds. People LOVE Harry Potter and, frankly, don’t shut up about it in real life. And they do it without mentioning JK Rowling, because it’s not hard. Like most things, the insanely vocal minority is holding the online conversation hostage. This is so crazy to see.

 

[Kacho]

Wait, Linneman is the fat one or old man?

Linneman is the gorilla looking guy. Richard Leadbetter is the older guy.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Digital Foundry is absolutely a joke now

Their takes are absurd, don’t deep dive into the right things everyone else is noticing, and decide not to cover the biggest games this year

Fuck their nonsense, I’m out as a subscriber

 

[GymWolf]

what was the issue with ion fury?

Mental illness.

 

[emmerrei]

I enjoy they're retrogaming videos, but this is just pathetic and lost all that bit of admiration i had for that channel. They're scared of getting banned from that fascist place called ERA? Where you can't have your opinion and must follow the leader or die?

 

[Aaron Olive]

Linneman is the gorilla looking guy. Richard Leadbetter is the older guy.

with the British coffee teeth.

 

[SlimySnake]

Well i have a different take on this. Hope this makes us realize how invaluable DF is when it comes to evaluating performance. Yes, they deserve criticism for being complete tools sometimes and I myself have criticized them, but looking at how other youtubers just tested the intro and didnt bother testing the open world which performs awful on PC just shows that we need actual professionals like Alex and John to do this kind of deep dive evaluation.

I mean 50% GPU utilization is simply unacceptable and there is simply no way this game should be getting anything over a 4 for PC simply based on that alone.

 

[TheDreadLord]

Well, they are auto-canceling themselves with this kind of attitude. It hasn’t been the first time. I can’t say on behalf of other but I haven’t watched their videos for quite some time now. Too boring and elitist.

 

[TheInfamousKira]

Wtf are you talking about, all anyone knows is Alex and John aren't interested in covering it. That's their prerogative. DF could get one of their other guys to produce a video if they wanted and may do so.

Their is no evidence that they are scared, that is your confirmation bias. Maybe its just not that important to them and they dont want to deal with potentail blowback covering a property they do not like. They could also drop a video in three days. You are dealing with incomplete information.

Like i stated earlier, this gaf mob is embarassing and ironically is acting in the exact same manner as reee and Twitter. The fact that many can't see that shows that they aren't much different then the people they claim to despise.

Occam's razor my dude. You're over here penning a spy novel to cover their tracks when it's more likely they're taking a brave stand against "one of the most dangerous people on earth,"

 

[mansoor1980]

Mental illness.

 

[Interfectum]

Pussies. Unsubbed.

 

[FoxMcChief]

I won’t unsubscribe, because that seems like something Reee would do, if they didn’t get their way. But I will call them out on Twitter about it. Outside of that, it is what it is. I’ll forget about this in a week or two.

 

[mcjmetroid]

This whole thread is a complaint letter trying to get people to unsubscribe from DF. And that includes some asking for DF to be banned.

And yes i am joking, cancel culture is not a thing. You can't cancel anyone.

Well I haven't read the whole thing but I don't think anyone is saying " YOU MUST UNSUBSCRIBE". It's your own personal choice.
There is no coordinated effort here as far as I can see to get people to unsubscribe. I was responding to someone saying they want to subscribe by saying I did it as well.

I don't like this decision they've made so I'm switching the channel.

 

[GHG]

Im on a 3070, 32gb ram, 5700x and I constantly get stutters.

I think it has to be Denuvo

According to techpowerup they seem to think it's shader compilation stutters for things that are calculated on the fly, hence the situation is worse when out in the open world due to the dynamic TOD.

The shader compilation that happens when you boot the game is not for everything:

Just like in most other recent releases, shader compiling and stuttering is a problem in Hogwarts Legacy. Right on startup, before the main menu, the game presents you a "compiling shaders" screen that lasts for three to five minutes. Unfortunately the shaders that get compiled at this time are only the most essential ones. As you progress through the game you'll encounter serious drops in framerate (to unplayable levels) for about 30 seconds. Just stop and wait for the shader compiler to finish—this breaks the immersion of course and I wonder if this can't be solved more elegantly. I investigated a bit further and the game is compiling shaders in the background even during normal stutter-free gameplay, too, without affecting the game much. We've seen such problems in many games recently and I keep hearing how these will get fixed in the "day one" patch, "soon" after launch, maybe with the next big patch, or with the next DLC. For nearly all games these issues never get fixed, and there's never any noteworthy performance improvements, so /doubt. My recommendation is to just live with it, stop playing for a few seconds when you get hit by the stutter, take a short break, and resume when things are smooth again. Just to clarify, for 98% of my play time in the first few hours there was no stutter and no frame drop issues, everything was super smooth.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/hogwarts-legacy-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/7.html

 

[Mr Reasonable]

Why would they 'not be interested' in covering one of the biggest games of this year?

Some people think that covering and promoting the game is an endorsement of anti trans sentiment.

I'm surprised you've missed it, it's been very big news.

 

[PerfectDark]

Enough of these topics on this game. people are F'N weirdos. OMG a teacher at my kids grade school wore a t-shirt that degraded men. Now I have to put my house for sale, move to another city just so my kids can go to school far away from this monster.

These devs made a game based on the Harry Potter world. Which Harry potter is the second coolest fantasy world. First would be Star Wars. This is one of the coolest games ever made. Just play the game or don't. Nothing else too it. If your not buying or playing the game then STFU.