ChorizoPicozo
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Redfall: Summoning and Slaying The Rook - IGN First Gameplay
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Topher
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Lmao idr what thread I said this in, think it’s the the activision acquisition thread. But I legit said people will call destin from IGN massive fanboys but in the same breath quote the red dragon, guys a king among fanboys and is really taken seriously on this forum and it’s baffling honestly lml, because here is the only place he doesn’t get clowned. I mean follow who you follow idc at the end of the day, just saying.
I think several of us were ridiculing his tweets in the acquisition thread. I see folks taking people like colt eastwood (in this same thread) and destin seriously on many occasions. Really just a lot of different people with different takes here on GAF. For the most part, none of it is in "the same breath". I have yet to see anyone here put red dragon on a pedestal while trashing Destin, or vice versa.
Personally, I'd prefer no one bring any of those twitter warriors into GAF.
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ChorizoPicozo
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and yet, struggles to connect with the mainstream gamers.
thus RedFall.
that niche audience is going to feel bad.
gothmog
Gold Member
Why is removal of MTX a positive change if the game itself is designed around it? Especially if they might put the store back in weeks later?
I'd rather they leave the store in so I can make an easy decision around if this is worth my time. I had fun with Back4Blood until I didn't. I uninstalled it and moved on. I feel like it's not MTX that's the problem but peoples expectations that these games are supposed to entertain them for months and years.
I’ll say this though, about all of them, they’re really really quick with the news updates. It’s like they never put their phones down.
But man red dragon is on a whole different level with the hot takes.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The game is not designed around MTX, not sure where you got that idea from.
"We try to be very clear that there are no microtransactions and there is no store in the game. We're very proud of that. If you find a costume in the game, then you can have it, as simple as that."
Redfall will not have microtransactions
Redfall won't even have an in-game shop and Arkane will rely on DLC to support the game in the long run.
www.dlcompare.com
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Ansphn
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Why does Arkane always get excused for shitty A.I? So Arkane are the only developers making games with physics and abilities systems?
jm89
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skyfall
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Honestly, if somebody told me this was footage from some unreleased spinoff/dlc for the original dishonored back in 2012 I wouldn't have a hard time believing them.
Calverz
Gold Member
Na. Its because we are posting tweets from twitter fanboys now, so figured I'd add some moreI'm sorry is that supposed to make things look better?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Wait aren't you the guy who discredits an award winning game like Pentiment because you don't like its art style ?
I don't think you're in any position to create any trajectories my friend
Spitfire098
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With one less console to work on, you would think the game would look better
jm89
Member
Na. Its because we are posting tweets from twitter fanboys now, so figured I'd add some more
Calverz
Gold Member
Oh dear. Did you start it? hahaha
I'm sorry is that supposed to make things look better?
So you see no difference in skill or engagement between this b-roll clip and the full IGN video? Really?
. . . this is why it's impossible to take some of your seriously. It's all or nothing, zero nuance whatsoever.
jm89
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Oh dear indeed, just finding it hilarious that you probably were hoping that tweet was gonna convince people and now you going back on it.
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vaibhavpisal
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No excuses.
It will become a different game if enemies start behaving like , say in Gears of War game and start moving from cover to cover. Your only option in that case would be to use guns.
Enemies are mostly out in the open in this game to encourage you to use abilities.
That's the way I see it.
You have Malenia as avatar. From Soft games also have similar AI, that could be considered dumb compared to military shooters. But it's intentional and guides you to play the game in a certain way.
gothmog
Gold Member
There were screenshots of an item store in the inventory screen when it was first revealed. Them acting like that wasn't originally in the game is spin. Much like their insistence that this game isn't in any way similar to B4B.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
But it's *not* anywhere similar to B4B, hasn't been since it was first shown lol. It was being likened to Borderlands since its first reveal.
You're making some wild and inaccurate assumptions here. The game had MTX in the beta in 2021, they have since taken it out, it's been 2 years. More than time enough to change the game balance as needed.
Does that mean they won't add an MTX store a few weeks after release? I can't guarantee that, but at least the game, at launch, will not be designed around it.
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Calverz
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lol yea I prayed this was going to change the prevailing opinion on the ign footage. I was really hoping man. Damn you got me so good. You should be a detective. Well done lad. Well done.
jm89
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You made an attempt at something that's for sure though. Just not probably whatever extent you were hoping for.
Calverz
Gold Member
Did you not read my comment earlier in the thread?
gothmog
Gold Member
I guess we'll see in a few weeks how close it is. Not really interested in arguing about it. It's Arkane so I'll play it. I hope it's good.
JusticeForAll
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This game looks so unappealing. Hard to guess this is from the same company that made Dishonored and Prey.
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I mean, if you were really interested in contributing to the conversation and making informed criticism, you could watch ANY of the numerous videos including the previews from a few weeks ago to see how much this and B4B actually have in common beyond the superficial.
. . . again that's IF you were actually interested in giving an honest take.
YeulEmeralda
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My adblocker automatically nukes twitter. Ignorance is bliss.
gothmog
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I've watched most of the official videos. Still reminds me of L4D with different specialists which is basically B4B. I'd love to be wrong but I haven't played it yet to know. As I said before, I'm not asking anyone to prove my own personal opinion wrong.
Ansphn
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Did you watch the Redfall video? How can you compare that to Elden Ring or even Malenia? Malenia would mop the floor with the player within 2-3 minutes while Redfall player was lolligagging around most of the video. Have you even played any Souls games to shit on the A.I and compare it to Redfall? I see what you said as a slap in the face to Souls fans. What's your PSN or Gamertag?
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DaGwaphics
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Truth be told, @vaibhavpisal has probably played the Souls games at least as much as you've played Redfall. That should be enough to square things up.
Gamer_By_Proxy
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I’m not saying this AI looks dumb, just that it makes the Deathloop AI look like geniuses.
vaibhavpisal
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Bruh
Rook is 2 shotting players if you look at video closely. That's why running and gunning is not effective strategy.
Ansphn
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What is "shotting"? All I seen was shitty A.I teammates and shitty A.I all around. If you switch out rook for Malenia, the player would already be dead. The rook was getting lost and it keeps stopping at doorways for no damn reason.Bruh
Rook is 2 shotting players if you look at video closely. That's why running and gunning is not effective strategy.
Have you played Returnal? That game would be more comparable to good A.I enemies and bosses and it's a shooting game with all kinds of psysics and special moves.
I don't understand why you have to downplay other games to make Redfall's A.I look better. Don't know why you're going so far. Do you work for Arcane or something?
Ansphn
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I have also played a lot of Souls games and he said the A.I was shitty so no we're not squared up. The guy has to explain himself.
RickMasters
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Man....All I know is im looking forward to playing this with my freinds. looks fun.
DenchDeckard
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Still looking forward to playing this with friends...
Wait is this real? Can't take those kinds of people's opinions seriously.
What a sad egg!
Wait aren't you the guy who discredits an award winning game like Pentiment because you don't like its art style ?
I don't think you're in any position to create any trajectories my friend
Wait is this real? Can't take those kinds of people's opinions seriously.
What a sad egg!
It's not a "personal opinion" though. You're willfully misrepresenting what the game is to make an argument about ARKANE chasing trends (and bad ones given the comparison to B4B or L4D). The ONLY way comparison between the two genres is that they both involve shooting supernatural enemies. That is it. Oh and it also has bespoke classes tied to characters.
If only there were ANOTHER series of games that had similar game systems that more closely aligned with RF that you could use to make an honest comparison to. If only. . .
Oh brother. Also you're a big Soulsplayer but are flummoxed by the phrase "2 shotting?" Interesting.
Ansphn
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When did the rook 2 shot anybody? All I seen was it getting stuck on door ways. It had several chances to 2 shot the the player several times but instead did a warp into the ceiling for no reason just to come back down to strike a pose for no damn reason. Then it's hand got big but that didn't do anything to the player at all. It then got lost outside the building with question marks popping up onto top of its head. Then when it runs at you, it has to stop at every corner or door way for a few seconds to strike a weird pose. The rook moved like it was a car. It was very weird.
Also what do you mean "interesting" are you insinuating I don't play souls games?
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Halo is Back
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Yep, that was definitely played by a game journalist
James Sawyer Ford
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Varteras
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Hugare
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Looks mediocre
Sucks, because I love Arkhane. But it looks like something executives pointed a gun at them and said "do something 1st person multiplayer focused for the masses or you guys are done"
Waiting for the inevitable "1 million downloads on Game Pass!" 1 week after release, followed by the 200 player current playing it 2 weeks later.
Sucks, because I love Arkhane. But it looks like something executives pointed a gun at them and said "do something 1st person multiplayer focused for the masses or you guys are done"
Waiting for the inevitable "1 million downloads on Game Pass!" 1 week after release, followed by the 200 player current playing it 2 weeks later.
