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PlayStation boss Jim Ryan is retiring March 2024
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DrFigs
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putting playstation games on pc is a terrible and shortsighted decision that will hurt the playstation brand long term. there's a reason why you don't see Nintendo doing this. I hope whoever is next in line is able to see that. some people dislike the investment in multiplayer games, but i personally think that was the correct decision - sony is seriously lacking in multiplayer games.
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mrmustard
Banned
I know it's pathetic, but some people only want Sony to stop porting their games so they can mock Xbox again for having no exclusives. Real gamers should think like you.
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ulantan
Member
Well...Jim approved 10 multiplayer games.
Topher
Gold Member
Not in the direction of Gaas games primarily. And actually having showcases that give PS customers some idea of what can be expected from first party should not be a hard ask. Those are the big mistakes Jim Ryan has made this gen, imo.
I'll give him credit for putting more PS games on PC. That is a no-brainer. Good for gamers, good for Sony. Wish they were day one, but still.....progress.
DrFigs
Member
right and how prescient because like that's how many games it will take to replace 1 call of duty if MS ever decides to make that exclusive.
Maybe the next CEO will skip a step and just ask us to buy PC's instead. why even make a console
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Topher
Gold Member
Because console gamers don't want to game on PC.
Killjoy-NL
Member
'Real gamers' is such a cringe thing to say.
Similar to 'PC Masterrace'.
But I agree that putting games in PC isn't necessarily a bad thing.
I think we all know they're basically giving PC gamers a taste of Playstation and making sure they don't fall behind Xbox completely in regards to GamePass.
And putting multiplayer games on PC is just a no-brainer. They need the added revenue.
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Sleepwalker
Member
As someone who used to do a lot of travelling in my late 20s it takes a big toll on you, cannot imagine Ryan having a good time, no matter how many private flights and/or 1st class accomodations, intercontinental travel is no joke, what with jet lag and all that.
Aces High
Member
Something is off with the games, though.
They're amazing on a technical level, but they lack depth and energy.
Every Sony has the same vibe lately and that vibe is not positive:
- The highbrow storytelling gets old pretty fast
- It requires high level of mental investment due to complex story structures
- The gameplay mechanics are superficial, easy to learn and easy to master
- Everything is slow-paced with too much focus on cutscenes
- Replayability is often zero
- Everything is so goddamn serious
Exception: Insomniac. They're amazing.
I wish Sony would get more crazy. Like Ready Player One crazy.
So odd that people are defending Jim Ryan during is tenure as CEO
Things he has done:
-Raised game prices
-Raised online prices (PS Plus)
-Raised console prices
-Hasn’t greenlit any NEW IP 1st party single player games that we know of(bread and butter of the gaf community)
-Had to be bullied into crossplay
Sales are great for the PS5, no denying that. But a lot of that is based off the tremendous success of PS4. This is the least creative PS has been in a long time. Maybe his initiative to push and greenlit all these GAAS titles will turn out great, but I HIGHLY doubt that’s what the PS community want and them being successful.
Things he has done:
-Raised game prices
-Raised online prices (PS Plus)
-Raised console prices
-Hasn’t greenlit any NEW IP 1st party single player games that we know of(bread and butter of the gaf community)
-Had to be bullied into crossplay
Sales are great for the PS5, no denying that. But a lot of that is based off the tremendous success of PS4. This is the least creative PS has been in a long time. Maybe his initiative to push and greenlit all these GAAS titles will turn out great, but I HIGHLY doubt that’s what the PS community want and them being successful.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
What an excellent career for Jim, spanning over 30 years with Sony. Happy retirement, Jimbo!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I always find it amazing in the internet age when companies have trouble communicating with customers. it's not like the old days where companies have to spend tons of money and planning to do TV ads, magazine articles, billboards and any archaic stuff. It's impossible for an at-home or small business back in the day to get noticed. They just dont have the manpower and money to get globally noticed. But now, you got average joes on YT or Twitter with nothing more than personality and $100 to buy a webcam doing content after dinner that makes their legions of fans happy.
Just post on the corporate site or Twitter all kinds of glitzy marketing for free. Gaming and tech is a very close knit kind of interaction between company and gamer. It's not arms length like a funeral home where nobody cares about hearing anything from them until someone drops dead and they need a place to bury Bob.
Kuwitzzer
Member
Is that the reason why Xbox is selling well? Because there are many who do not want to game on console, oh wait! Day-one release will fucking kill Playstation console, but clearly that won’t affect you PC players, who do not game there.
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Killjoy-NL
Member
You can literally break down any game like that and tbh, it sounds more like you want to play games on Switch.
All their major titles break records, they have a steady output of exclusive games and quality is superb for their 1st party output.
They made the right decision to support PS4 the way they did during the pandemic, so I see little reason to say he does a terrible job.
Sure, something drastically new and crazy would be nice, but that's why we have games like Returnal.
twilo99
Member
I think he would either see xbox become a success or retire trying, so he ain't go nowhere lol
twilo99
Member
What did he do before Sony?
Topher
Gold Member
First, I do game on PS. Second, Xbox stopped selling well (not as much as they had been anyway) long before they began porting their games to PC. Day one releases on PC are not going to magically transform console gamers into PC gamers. But yeah, I get why Sony doesn't port their games day one. They want to make it something special for their PS console customers. I get that. But as a PC and PS gamer, I'd rather not have to own a console at all. But I do because PlayStation games kick ass.
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Windom Earle
Member
While being a financially very good era for Sony, Jim Ryan Sony is the era where I really started to dislike them.
Iced Arcade
Member
Holy shit, Jim's only in his 50s?!
Larxia
Member
This is also something I don't understand, I've seen people saying this multiple times, but I don't see why it has to be one or the other like that.
I know plenty of people who play on consoles but not even for the exclusives, just because they prefer consoles.
My brother in law only has playstation consoles but that's just because he's used to play on playstation really, he doesn't even play the big exclusives, mostly play COD and the usual popular multiplayer games lol But he has no interest on PC.
I'm not sure why it's such a mystery for some people, why consoles would become useless if suddenly they don't have games exclusive to only them. It's about the platform too.
(edit: just to be sure, I'm agreeing with you, in case there's a confusion on why I quoted you, I was just adding to your point
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Elder Legend
Banned
The guy looks like his in his 60s doesn't he?
SlimeGooGoo
Party Gooper
Yoboman
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mrmustard
Banned
Real gamers is only cringe if you want to exclude Fortnite casuals or candy crush moms with it. I only wanted to exclude warriors, because those people are no gamers in my book.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Yes.... yes... yes!!!!
Kat always keep in my heart!!!
CuNi
Member
I find it ironic after all the talks in the Microsoft and Activision merger that Phil will surely get axed, it's Jim leaving first.
I don't own a PS5 and only had a PS4 for bloodborne and a few others so I'll let the Sony fans decide if this is a good or bad development.
As long as the games keep coming out on PC I really don't care who's in charge.
I don't own a PS5 and only had a PS4 for bloodborne and a few others so I'll let the Sony fans decide if this is a good or bad development.
As long as the games keep coming out on PC I really don't care who's in charge.
yurinka
Member
No, he didn't. Team Asobi (they merged all the Jarpan Studio internal 1st party development there) and the Japanese XDEV 2nd party publishing team continue working even in the same SIE Japan building, but in new offices and they are growing.
They already released 3 of the 12 GaaS: MLB, Gran Turismo 7 and Firewall Ultra. The next one will be Helldivers 2.
Sony is making a lot of money with the PC ports and reaching millions of new players, while the PS hardware and software, specially the 1st party games, are selling better than ever, and they are also making more money than ever from game subs. If the PC ports, which aren't a new thing, if are having some kind of effect on PS is positive.
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DrFigs
Member
yeah i think it's specifically the buzzword "gaas" that triggers some people. i genuinely believe if sony just called them multiplayer games, they'd be getting praise for finally addressing their biggest weakness as a publisher.
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Fabieter
Member
While I played some games on pc myself. Some ports needed serious involvement of 1p resources to get the games out ans patched afterwards. That could technically delay other projects somewhat.
And pc players often do armchair stiff that when company x port this and do that it will easily sell millions and 99% of the times it does decently but its a far cry from all the claims some pc players doing. So in the end all sides are equally shitty.
Right? There are tons of amazing GAAS games out there.
Kuwitzzer
Member
Xbox selling terrible is an accumulation of many different factors, porting games day-to-date on PC is one of them. Day-one release will not magically and instantly but slowly transform console gamers into PC gamers. Playstation does not release day one on Pc because they are a console business, they are not just your typical publisher, their main priority is strengthening their console ecosystem. It’s clear as day PC fans such as yourself do not give a shit about Playstation console, so why the surprise when PS fans do not want Sony to allocate some resources to other platforms? Why do you want Sony to port games to PC so much? Cause you want to feel special because PC has everything?
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Killjoy-NL
Member
I think self-proclaimed 'real gamers' are the same as warriors.
But that's off-topic. I was actually agreeing with you.
DrFigs
Member
you kind of lost me towards the end, but the first part is right! the amount of consoles xbox can sell has a tight ceiling and it's because of their pc strategy, but there's lots of reasons Microsoft can get away with this. mostly because they have their own pc store, gamepass on pc, etc. and promoting gaming on windows should be a priority for them. playstation gets all of the negatives of undervaluing their consoles and not much benefits.
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Kuwitzzer
Member
The end was just written to mock these PC fans who always mutter about “PS fans want to feel special with their plastic box”. Like, they want their platform to grow, PS fans also want their console brand to grow, and they do not see PC push as a way to achieve that.
DrFigs
Member
i think you got Topher all wrong though lol