I haven’t played it but I think it sounds like they should get better play testers so an obvious badly planned progression system don’t stay all the way til the launch.
As said in the OT, this is the initial impression from a big Forza fan:
This is such a weird take. The Gran Turismos and Forzas have been stagnating and regressing for years. Their legacy is a thing of the past. The sim genre on the other hand is alive and well. Some people really only need rock solid physics and online. Campaign stuff is for casual console audiences mostly.these are still video games at the end of the day, they are racing simulators yes but video games mostly. A game has a goal, a win state. Usually beating the game. What game is there to beat in Assetto Corsa besides the anemic pitiful campaign?
There should be more to a racing game than just the physics. A sandbox game is fun, it truly can be. But it will never have the legacy and lasting appeal the same way a more focused game will have. That's why Minecraft has a survival mode as well as a creative.
Because, you guessed it, the campaigns have gone to shit. Nobody will want to buy your game if your storymode sucks.The Gran Turismos and Forzas have been stagnating and regressing for years. Their legacy is a thing of the past.
Heading into peak hours Euro time.
Forza Motorsport - 3,481 (all-time peak 4,703)
Forza Horizon 5 - 14,544 all-time peak (81,096)
Assetto Corsa - 12,162
Assetto Corsa Competizioni - 3,424
Unless there is a serious bump in numbers this weekend you start to wonder if FM will even be viable long-term as a GAAS. Of course there are Xbox console numbers to factor in, but if anything, they'll lean even more heavily towards FH5.
Is Forza Horizon 4 still beating FM?
Yes. Right now FM2023 has 3,803. FH4 has 6,022.
FH4 was at 20k players on the day of release (on Steam, which was 2.5 few years after its release on Xbox and PC Windows store). FH4 peaked at 40k soon after.
Because Game Pass?? Honestly maybe because MotorSport is more niche.How can a game from 5 years ago have more concurrent gamers than the peak next-gen console\PC game in it's launch month? This is nuts.
By being a genuinely good game with good graphics, good performance, freedom of customization, and is fun. All things that this game is not.How can a game from 5 years ago have more concurrent gamers than the peak next-gen console\PC game in it's launch month? This is nuts.
Because Game Pass?? Honestly maybe because MotorSport is more niche.
Or maybe because its buggy as hell on PC
I just hope T10 support the game as promised for a "platform" as I really like the core elements.
For some more context with Xbox most played rankings, Forza Motorsport is just inside the top 20 in the UK, It's outside the top 30 in the US. Forza Horizon 5 is significantly higher on both charts.Heading into peak hours Euro time.
Forza Motorsport - 3,481 (all-time peak 4,703)
Forza Horizon 5 - 14,544 all-time peak (81,096)
Assetto Corsa - 12,162
Assetto Corsa Competizioni - 3,424
Unless there is a serious bump in numbers this weekend you start to wonder if FM will even be viable long-term as a GAAS. Of course there are Xbox console numbers to factor in, but if anything, they'll lean even more heavily towards FH5.
They could both be competent at what they try to do, but are not comparable in the main. FMS is deffo more niche than an arcade racer, alof of players will just try it on gamepass.Guess I got tricked thinking Motorsport was the more competent game, whereas FH was the more "fun" game.
Guess I got tricked thinking Motorsport was the more competent game, whereas FH was the more "fun" game.
This video is absolutely hilarious. All the complaints about the AI in these Steam reviews are manifested in just the first few seconds.
Lol shit does this include GamePass?For some more context with Xbox most played rankings, Forza Motorsport is just inside the top 20 in the UK, It's outside the top 30 in the US. Forza Horizon 5 is significantly higher on both charts.
Turn 10 hasn't been solid for quite some time. Now they just hit a new low, because they've had 6 years to come up with something cool and they created the least polished game with controversial changes and lack of overall content.That's sad to see. This series has been solid, the studio has been solid!
I hope this isn't a preview into the next Horizon, which I think has becoming the bigger/better series!
Turn 10 say they have been reading people's feedback and listening to their concerns
Forza Motorsport Community Update :: Forza Motorsport Events & Announcements
View full event information here: https://steamcommunity.com/ogg/2440510/announcements/detail/5480376121627877679steamcommunity.com
Nothing concrete though. No admission of failures or ETA to fix.
The Most Played charts include everything, Purchased titles, Free-to-Play, Gamepass.Lol shit does this include GamePass?
It's widely believed T10 acted as a support studio for a number for MS 1st Party titles. including Halo Infinite. So I don't believe they're worked for 6 years on FM.Turn 10 hasn't been solid for quite some time. Now they just hit a new low, because they've had 6 years to come up with something cool and they created the least polished game with controversial changes and lack of overall content.
This video is absolutely hilarious. All the complaints about the AI in these Steam reviews are manifested in just the first few seconds.
Lucky you. My game crashes after every single race.Must be something with his PC setup, nothing like this ever happened to me. I had exactly 1 crash (on my first race, lol) and the biggest bug I've encountered is that cars fail to load on time for podium showcase etc. and they 'pop-in' after a second. That's it.
I don't see this game pulling away PC simracers from their game of choice and on console there are way more casual fans that will prefer Horizon. I've been enjoying the game myself but I have doubts about it's long term support as well, Papa Spencer gave them 6 years to reanimate the franchise but it seems to haven't made much of a splash.Heading into peak hours Euro time.
Forza Motorsport - 3,481 (all-time peak 4,703)
Forza Horizon 5 - 14,544 all-time peak (81,096)
Assetto Corsa - 12,162
Assetto Corsa Competizioni - 3,424
Unless there is a serious bump in numbers this weekend you start to wonder if FM will even be viable long-term as a GAAS. Of course there are Xbox console numbers to factor in, but if anything, they'll lean even more heavily towards FH5.
Because they fucked itPapa Spencer gave them 6 years to reanimate the franchise but it seems to haven't made much of a splash.
"..Releasing games at quality".
-Phil Buying Nintendo is a career moment Spencer, president of gaming and most importantly, Gamer.
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"The Shadow Realm""..Releasing games at quality".
-Phil Buying Nintendo is a career moment Spencer, president of gaming and most importantly, Gamer.
Why are you guys so obsessed with Phil?
Oh I know…
at least I am not crying when he appears on stage.Why are you guys so obsessed with Phil?
Oh I know…
No way, it’s super advanced. They trained their AI by having it watch millions of hours of real life Forza players. The realism is astounding.It's like they took the usual Forza online experience and injected it to the single player. No turn10, it was supposed to be the other way around!
in a few months it will be a great game
Forza will be amazing in a years time aswell.
In a few months, the game will lose its playerbase. In a year or two from now a lot of people will move on to the next Forza Horizon game. And looking at the known issues on their website, I don't think they could fix it all of the bugs and problems of this game in a couple of months.I can bet alot of people in this thread haven't even played the game
The gameplay is ace and in a few months it will be a great game
Is it an excuse ? Fuck no
But this is how these gaas games are
Halo infinite is good ATM
Sea of theaves was abysmal at launch and absolutely amazing ATM
Forza will be amazing in a years time aswell.
The only problem with this model is that the communities move on and always stamps these games as mediocre.
Only game where the community got bigger in a gaas is rainbow six siege
You know out of the three big games MS was releasing this year I thought that Forza was going to be the best of the bunch. They had a lot of time and the Forza games have all been top notch games so it seemed obvious to me. Oof
Come on now, Tango is not mediocre, TEW games were pretty good and Ghostwire is not bad either, solid 8/10 games that work well and have interesting ideas.It's honestly wild to see Xbox put out 4 new games this year and the one that actually stood out was a shadow dropped passion project by a relatively mediocre studio. Not Turn 10. Not Bethesda. Not Arkane. Tango did it.
Come on now, Tango is not mediocre, TEW games were pretty good and Ghostwire is not bad either, solid 8/10 games that work well and have interesting ideas.
They heard Todd Howard say everything's an RPG now and took it to heartI don't quite understand why they insisted on using a leve lup system for a racing simulator. It's just so out of place.
They heard Todd Howard say everything's an RPG now and took it to heart
The Saga continues it seems.
This video is absolutely hilarious. All the complaints about the AI in these Steam reviews are manifested in just the first few seconds.