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Microsoft Business Update Podcast | OT | SEGABOX |

Killjoy-NL

Member
Yes, but have you ?


That statement is open to a lot of speculation, which I already addressed in a previous reply. Which you said you didn't read because you're in complete denial.

I wonder if that's how you watched the video.

You probably heard "4 games" and "next generation road map" and everything flew by or went way over your head.
 

skyfall

Member
That statement is open to a lot of speculation, which I already addressed in a previous reply. Which you said you didn't read because you're in complete denial.

I wonder if that's how you watched the video.

You probably heard "4 games" and "next generation road map" and everything flew by or went way over your head.

You guys are in copesville

They also mentioned consoles will be their flagship

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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That statement is open to a lot of speculation, which I already addressed in a previous reply. Which you said you didn't read because you're in complete denial.

I wonder if that's how you watched the video.

You probably heard "4 games" and "next generation road map" and everything flew by or went way over your head.

So they say there's a roadmap for the next gen with the biggest leap yet. You've convinced yourself that it could mean a tablet and now you're telling others that thing flew by over their heads.

Go home grumpy cat.
 

PaintTinJr

Member
I agree, because I like high-quality AAA games, but after seeing Sony's financial results showing how little profit is made on those big, expensive games, I kind of understand why they might want to chase that Roblox money.
But a single set of financials doesn't tell the whole story. You'd have to take their initial Spider-man investment with all the other versions on console and PC and check back after 10years after Spider-man 3 releases on PC to see what the ROI was. The game's finances seem to follow the big film releases, where it is a long return on a solid investment so long as the quality is there and the IP/franchise does a lot of the heavy sales lifting too.

Roblox looks like the industry eating itself with a race to the bottom. And given the choice between Roblox infestation in A-AAA gaming or losing Xbox, I'll happily take the future where PlayStation is the unopposed VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray/UHD player to sell high quality blockbuster to indie games on.

Ironically, games like Spiderman would be less risky if there was only one winner in the high-end console space. Xbox's very presence artificially propped up by Microsoft's finances makes it harder for PlayStation to take further financial risks with hardware to expand the market, as was their intention with the $500M risk they took on Cell BE R&D on the PS3 that nearly sunk them as a company.
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
So they say there's a roadmap for the next gen with the biggest leap yet. You've convinced yourself that it could mean a tablet and now you're telling others that thing flew by over their heads.

Go home grumpy cat.
Don't worry, I'm fully aware that it could mean a powerful console just as easily.

I'm saying that some sort of digital-only console/hybrid seems more logical, since now that they confirmed basically any Xbox title can potentially go multiplatform after a year, a traditional console will be pretty much DOA.
 

Dibils2k

Member
how did all that stuff about going full third party and releasing everything on PS/Nintendo consoles or no more day one gamepass get so much traction... was it from someone usually reliable?

cause what a fail, wasnt even remotely close to truth
 
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Mephisto40

Member
Yes, but have you ?







Oh I don't know about the seriously part, but multiple posters were definitely hoping for it.

"Technological Leap" probably means more games running from the cloud instead of on updated hardware

The fact that they have not even mentioned a new console and are instead going for this "Technological leap" jargon should be throwing up red flags
 

Killjoy-NL

Member
Ask Killjoy-NL Killjoy-NL and M MisterXDTV

They seem to be in the know.
"Games over a year old"

"Premier experience experience on Xbox"

"If it makes sense"

Low sales due to low installbase and increasing cost of AAA production make for a very sensible reason to make games multiplatform.

Watch it again, there are tiny bits of the puzzle spread across the entire podcast.
It's just a matter of connecting the dots.

It's not like most people aren't aware, it's just a specific minority that is acting obtuse.
 
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"Technological Leap" probably means more games running from the cloud instead of on updated hardware

The fact that they have not even mentioned a new console and are instead going for this "Technological leap" jargon should be throwing up red flags
From my understanding the technological leap might be related with Generative AI (MS is currently working on their own AI chips), rather than streaming from the cloud
 
Either way the wording coming from Microsoft right now is sounding suspiciously like the "Power of the cloud" nonsense they tried to fool the general public with during the xbox one reveal

The wording says very little if anything, and honestly this has nothing to do with the XBO reveal since this is just a "promise" and not a reveal. They will have to show the receipts if they claim it's a truly technological leap when they reveal the new console
 

Kenneth Haight

Gold Member
Off topic but Phil looks really unhealthy. He looks bloated AF, guy needs to get away from the CEO chair or sofa and get moving for the sake of his health.
 

DJ12

Member
Couldn't agree more. The trust is totally gone for me, so whatever Phil & co says, just doesnt hold merit anymore for me. Phil was still busy spinning things yesterday. We know the whole testing the water spiel is spin to ease the change across. They're changing direction slowly but surely and trying to bring everyone along with them.

Unfortunately I've sold the Xbox as I no longer want to put more money into it. I dont think MS Gaming is suddenly disappearing or anything as dramatic as that. But where are we in a few years time? Big question mark. For me, I think its pretty much full third party publisher with a lot less focus on their own hardware. I might pick up another bit of their hardware further down the road, but tbh, I don't think there will be a need to.
Ultimately they cannot be the biggest third party publisher, if they don't release any third party games.

I believe that's what Sarah said, about being the biggest third party?

Sorry to say if people think it's just these 4 games in the works, they've been sipping from Pinnochio Spencer's furry ball purse for too long.

Take the PR 'business update' in isolation and sure believe it if you want to, however look at everything else from the past week and it becomes clear it's at best economical with the truth.
 
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Astray

Member
Also could put them in a situation akin to 360, wherein they get a head-start, except this time, I don't see Sony making the mistakes they did with the PS3 on the PS6 if it does come out later.
When this fails (because Sony isn't asleep at the wheel anymore, even with the GAAS push they secured and are still securing a lot of singleplayer games for the PS5 launch), they will decide that maybe a console with a red ring of death aesthetic will be the one.

They have no clue what they are doing and are chasing ghosts of past successes.
 

Elysium44

Banned
You guys are in copesville

They also mentioned consoles will be their flagship

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For someone who's got a digital library on 360, including many non-backwards compatible games, it is anything but a convenient experience to find them to redownload them. It would just be nice if they didn't keep lying. Make the actual experience great and then by all means boast about it. (You have to go onto the 360 and laboriously slowly scroll through a very very long list to find them manually.)

On Series consoles it still lacks basic functionality like the ability to disable the stupid quick resume, which means I need to manually 'quit' each game before I power off, otherwise it causes problems with save or achievement progression in tons of games. This sort of thing could be done in five minutes and has been asked for since 2020. I'm sick of their laziness.
 
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ManaByte

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Yep it’s the usual suspects as always and the same “insiders” that were wrong and blew all of this out of the water.
Yet people are still listening to those insiders who are continuing to spew BS just for additional clicks because of confirmation bias.
 
If Microsoft is being serious at turning a profit they will need to release all the game studios games they bought on every console available. If Activision Blizzard is worth 70 billion they need to sell a lot of games from them.
 

ManaByte

Member
You are overplaying that hand dude. Small uninformed minority of folks doesn't mean much so let's not inflate this into something more than that.

Are you forgetting about how the entire front page of gaming for the last week was nothing but "MICROSOFT IS SEGA AND GOING THIRD PARTY! XBOX IS FINALLY DEAD! LETS PARTY!"
 

Topher

Gold Member
Are you forgetting about how the entire front page of gaming for the last week was nothing but "MICROSOFT IS SEGA AND GOING THIRD PARTY! XBOX IS FINALLY DEAD! LETS PARTY!"

Some idiots on twitter is not the "entire front page of gaming" my man. And we were talking about posters on GAF regardless so you can dial back your hyperbole.
 
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XXL

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Imagine if Playstation announced 4 games going to Nintendo and Playstation fans then went around telling Nintendo Fans they were salty.

Some of you are honestly in an absusive relationship with Xbox.
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You are overplaying that hand dude. Small uninformed minority of folks doesn't mean much so let's not inflate this into something more than that.

We both saw the amount of posters talking about it here, I'm not even referencing Twitter in general, I don't know why you're running defense for anyone.

There's posters on the last page who are refusing to acknowledge the hardware roadmap.
Are you forgetting about how the entire front page of gaming for the last week was nothing but "MICROSOFT IS SEGA AND GOING THIRD PARTY! XBOX IS FINALLY DEAD! LETS PARTY!"

Basically. Weeks of memes about it and now that it hasn't happened, backpedalling, " well of course no one really expected it".
 
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Topher

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We both saw the amount of posters talking about it here, I'm not even referencing Twitter in general, I don't know why you're running defense for anyone.

There's posters on the last page who are refusing to acknowledge the hardware roadmap.


Basically.

I'm not "running defense" for anyone. If you want to call out a guy who was saying this was going to be about the cancellation of Xbox hardware then have at it. So where were all these posters claiming Microsoft was going to cancel hardware yesterday? The way you talk there were multiple threads about this. Did I miss them?
 
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Yes, but have you ?







Oh I don't know about the seriously part, but multiple posters were definitely hoping for it.

It can't be the largest leap if it's a handheld. Maybe their strategy is to do what people ask Nintendo to do i.e make a Switch 2 but also make a docked only switch that is like a Series X/PS5. Games will have a high performance mode i.e handheld mode, performance mode i.e home console performance mode and quality mode i.e home console quality mode.
 
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