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Videogame facts that blow your mind (SuperMarioBros. SHOCKING SECRET INSIDE p #70)

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Chev said:
The game is FF9, the opponent Ragtime Mouth. It asks quiz questions which the player has to answer to win the fight. Note the quiz card he's holding:



Now, the other face of the quiz card, which is probably near-impossible to get a close look of in-game:



Texture:

It reads: "Pop Quiz! FF10's theme is GUTS! True or false?"

Several monster textures also have little doodles hidden in the alpha channel of unmapped regions but no specific message.

(crossposted from Selectbutton)
This is one of the more fourth wall breaking things I've seen in an FF game (aside from, perhaps, Gilgamesh appearing and clearly in being continuity with his previous appearances).
 

Erigu

Member
Koren said:
Something Arantez in Japanese will quite naturally become Samus Aran...
You translitterate it in Samushingu Arantesu
They have an actual Japanese word for "something", you know...
 

OnPoint

Member
sn00zer said:
What is GUTS?

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Koren said:
Something Arantez in Japanese will quite naturally become Samus Aran...

You translitterate it in Samushingu Arantesu, and take the beginning of both words, which Japanese do often (they usually keep one syllabus, like Todai for Tokyo Daigaku or two).

Quite classical gairaigo, like amefuto for ame(rican) foot(ball) or pasocon for perso(nal) com(puter).
Just to clear that up before it gets spreads as the origin of the "Samus" name: Sakamoto said "nantoka" in the interview, not "samushingu".
 

Watch Da Birdie

I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
Saw this the other day...

The worlds of Mario Land are all connected to aliens (thus, fitting with Tatanga being the main villain), as you have:

* Birabuto: Egypt, with the Ancient Pyramids sometimes believed to be built by aliens
* Muda: The Bermuda Triangle, another spot of speculated alien activity
* Easton: Easter Island, with the possibly alien-built Moai
* Chai: China, a bit of a stretch, the but the idea of China as the "heavenly realm", and there's also the common belief in aliens = gods you see.
 

Lijik

Member
Watch Da Birdie said:
Saw this the other day...

The worlds of Mario Land are all connected to aliens (thus, fitting with Tatanga being the main villain), as you have:

* Birabuto: Egypt, with the Ancient Pyramids sometimes believed to be built by aliens
* Muda: The Bermuda Triangle, another spot of speculated alien activity
* Easton: Easter Island, with the possibly alien-built Moai
* Chai: China, a bit of a stretch, the but the idea of China as the "heavenly realm", and there's also the common belief in aliens = gods you see.
Weren't the Chinese the first to develop rockets or something like that?
 

Roto13

Member
Watch Da Birdie said:
Saw this the other day...

The worlds of Mario Land are all connected to aliens (thus, fitting with Tatanga being the main villain), as you have:

* Birabuto: Egypt, with the Ancient Pyramids sometimes believed to be built by aliens
* Muda: The Bermuda Triangle, another spot of speculated alien activity
* Easton: Easter Island, with the possibly alien-built Moai
* Chai: China, a bit of a stretch, the but the idea of China as the "heavenly realm", and there's also the common belief in aliens = gods you see.
Eh, people who believe in aliens think they're everywhere.
 
Sofo said:
Wasn't the Scarecrow in The Wizard of Oz brainless? I don't think that suits for Vivi, who is pretty thoughtful! If you go for the looks I guess yes, but not mind blowing at all (to me).

Sorry, no mind blowing facts of my own!
The Scarecrow was brainless, but Vivi is an intelligent, artificial being.
The Tin Man had no heart, but Steiner's heart is at least as big as his mouth.
The Lion had no courage, but Zidane is probably the single most courageous Final Fantasy hero if there ever was one.
Dorothy is just as much of a ditz as Garnet, though.

So if you don't take into consideration that Zidane is more like a monkey than a lion (still some kind of animal) it makes perfect sense to me in that the FF9 characters are the complete opposite of the Oz characters they might be representing.

And for me this makes it mind-blowing again.
 

Hylian7

Member
I have a few:

You can sell the Zora Eggs in Majora's Mask to the Curiosity Shop.

Also, on Animal Crossing on the Gamecube, you can take the disc out after it loads your town. The reason for this is it's a port of the original N64 game only released in Japan. The game is so small that it's loaded entirely into the Gamecube's RAM, so it doesn't pull anything else from the disc after it boots up.
 

mattx5

Member
I don't know if anyone here has noticed this (the commenters in the Youtube vid certainly did), but the track "Concerto For Philodendron And Pothos" from Mort Garson's 1976 synth album Plantasia sounds an awful lot like it may have inspired Zelda's lullaby, and I wouldn't be surprised if Koji Kondo has heard this album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49Trz5Rc_A
 
mattx5 said:
I don't know if anyone here has noticed this (the commenters in the Youtube vid certainly did), but the track "Concerto For Philodendron And Pothos" from Mort Garson's 1976 synth album Plantasia sounds an awful lot like it may have inspired Zelda's lullaby, and I wouldn't be surprised if Koji Kondo has heard this album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49Trz5Rc_A


HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII--

--way, way, way too similar to be a coincidence. Someone needs to ask Koji Kondo about this; it may just be a case of cryptonesia, and not an intentional reference or blatant rip-off.
 

stilgar

Member
mattx5 said:
I don't know if anyone here has noticed this (the commenters in the Youtube vid certainly did), but the track "Concerto For Philodendron And Pothos" from Mort Garson's 1976 synth album Plantasia sounds an awful lot like it may have inspired Zelda's lullaby, and I wouldn't be surprised if Koji Kondo has heard this album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49Trz5Rc_A



Wow. WOW O_O Absolutely stunning catch, congrats.
 

Drkirby

Corporate Apologist
Ahoi-Brause said:
That's another mgs-theme type of deal.
What is it with mid 90's video game composers taking from 70's songs. You have the Metal Gear taking from a 1974 Russian Composer, this taken for a 1976 Canadian Album, and Earthbound taking from the Beatles, those are off the top of my head.
 
The middle part of "Scars of Time", the opening theme from Chrono Cross, sounds suspiciously like "Gilvve Gollát (Sow Your Gold)" from Mari Boine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8
http://www.we7.com/#/song/Mari-Boine/Gilvve-Gollat

"The Wounded Shall Advance into the Light" from Xenogears sounds like it is based on the unused choir track from the Chrono Trigger alpha (only ever used at the game's V-Jump presentation in 1994):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgVdUuW9CoQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6TXpaXfgCk&t=6m41s
 

Celine

Member

Roto13

Member
mattx5 said:
I don't know if anyone here has noticed this (the commenters in the Youtube vid certainly did), but the track "Concerto For Philodendron And Pothos" from Mort Garson's 1976 synth album Plantasia sounds an awful lot like it may have inspired Zelda's lullaby, and I wouldn't be surprised if Koji Kondo has heard this album.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c49Trz5Rc_A

Like five similar notes? Come on.
 

Roto13

Member
brerwolfe said:
are you joking?
Are you deaf? The bit from 0:04 to 0:09, which is reused throughout the song, is similar. The rest is completely different.

If the fact that, at some point in time, a different song has used some of the same notes as Zelda's Lullaby in a similar way, blows your mind, it's amazing you've lived this long without your head just exploding.
 

jarosh

Member
brerwolfe said:
are you joking?
why would he be? i wish people would stop posting these ridiculous "comparisons". i guess if you don't know anything about music, every little arpeggio, every two chords that sound similar to an earlier piece constitute a rip-off or some sort of "inspiration".

i mean, the zelda lullaby one is ridiculous enough, but this shit here is downright hilarious:
Celine said:
fucking lol
 
Ahoi-Brause said:
That's another mgs-theme type of deal.
nah not even close. the mgs thing had sections of it completely lifted. This is more like the thing where that guitarist (I think it was Steve Vai) sued Coldplay for "stealing" his song.
 
Arguments over whether your mind should be blown or not aside, I do like it when someone points out songs that sound is some ways similar to video game tunes. Sometimes I don't hear it at all but this page has some interesting ones imo.
 
This is pretty minor but slightly interesting and not at all about music or Pokémon:

I noticed a post from the Old Times had a picture of a sumo wrestler from Arm Wrestling, a Nintendo game that was spun off from Punch-Out!! (which might suck for people posting in the "best franchise ever" thread). I think it was supposed to imply something about E. Honda or something, but anyway....

The incredibly mindblowing (heh) fact here is that the link between the two games is Bald Bull. Apparently, after getting beaten by Little Mac in Punch-Out!!, he took on the persona of "Mask X" and competed in the Arm Wrestling circuit.

Also of slight note: It's a dual screen game (with resolutions roughly comparable to the Nintendo DS's); one of the characters is Texas Mac, though it's unclear if he's related to Little Mac; some of the music is originally from Punch-Out!!
(also, I lied about this post not being at all about music)

If you'll excuse me, now I'll go investigate the secret link between Samus Aran and Aran Ryan. ;)
 
DiipuSurotu said:
The middle part of "Scars of Time", the opening theme from Chrono Cross, sounds suspiciously like "Gilvve Gollát (Sow Your Gold)" from Mari Boine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8
http://www.we7.com/#/song/Mari-Boine/Gilvve-Gollat

"The Wounded Shall Advance into the Light" from Xenogears sounds like it is based on the unused choir track from the Chrono Trigger alpha (only ever used at the game's V-Jump presentation in 1994):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgVdUuW9CoQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6TXpaXfgCk&t=6m41s

This thread keeps getting better and better (despite the best efforts of the usual joy-killers)!

Celine said:


I like the fact that the boss theme from SMB2--which scared the heck out of me as a child--is based off a song from a song called "Exorcism". Very appropriate.
 

Cheerilee

Member
RockXLight said:
This thread keeps getting better and better (despite the best efforts of the usual joy-killers)!
There are like... 7 different notes on the musical scale. If you think of that as base-7 math, and think of five different notes in a sequence, then there are less than 17,000 possibilities for that sequence. And you can probably narrow that result some, because there are additional unwritten rules for creating things like harmony and melody. Let's call it 10,000.

Now how many songs do you think exist in recorded human history? CDDB apparently has info on tens of millions. The real world might have hundreds of millions. And how many different five-note sequences can you extract from each of those songs? Call it 10?

Now divide 10,000 into a billion. If you make a five note sequence, odds are it has already been used 100,000 times. Someone found one of them. Mind blowing!

Now what if you go beyond that, and drop the requirement that notes be mathematically identical, and include notes that are just kind of similar...
 

jarosh

Member
RockXLight said:
I like the fact that the boss theme from SMB2--which scared the heck out of me as a child--is based off a song from a song called "Exorcism". Very appropriate.
curious, because it is not, in any way whatsoever, based on a song called exorcism.
 

Roto13

Member
RockXLight said:
I like the fact that the boss theme from SMB2--which scared the heck out of me as a child--is based off a song from a song called "Exorcism". Very appropriate.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha, come on. At least the Zelda's Lullaby one shares a handful of the same notes. You have to be trolling.
 

Clipper

Member
There's a correct way and a wrong way to do these music posts...

Correct way:

Hey, listen to these two songs. I just noticed that they share a theme/few notes/chord progression. It's almost certainly coincidence, but I'm surprised I didn't hear it before and it's kinda cool when you detect the similarities.

Wrong way:

Hey, listen to these two songs. The later one is obviously based off the first. *Insert composer* was inspired by this earlier song for sure.
 

Gravijah

Member
Clipper said:
There's a correct way and a wrong way to do these music posts...

Correct way:

Hey, listen to these two songs. I just noticed that they share a theme/few notes/chord progression. It's almost certainly coincidence, but I'm surprised I didn't hear it before and it's kinda cool when you detect the similarities.

Wrong way:

Hey, listen to these two songs. The later one is obviously based off the first. *Insert composer* was inspired by this earlier song for sure.

Correct. I like listening to the comparisons because I find them interesting, but the whole "THIS IS A RIPOFF OF X" thing is silly.
 
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