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The Last of Us (Naughty Dog): Hold One Second

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Globox_82

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The Joel character references both of them. After he kills the guy he tells the girl to "Search him. Then take care of his buddy then we quit this place."

Also, there is no sign of infection on that guy. He is just a run of the mill post-apocalypse human doing what most humans would do in that situation. Murder, rape, and steal. It will be nice for a game to really explore how most humans would react to that kind of end of civilization scenario.

Sorry but not everyone would turn into rapist or a murderer. That's stupid to assume. Most of the people would try to reorganize at least in smaller groups and try to survive. This dog eat dog mentality is stupid.
 

Shtof

Member
There is no way ND is going to "move on" from Uncharted or TLOU (unless it flops). The reason why they moved from Crash is because Acti is the publisher, and that's when they joined Sony. Jak was their first Sony IP and from all the interviews it didn't make sense to make mature game on PS2 because tech wasn't there, so once PS3 rolled in, they decided to finally make something more mature, and plus no one cares about platformers any more. They were one FPS of all selling charts.

Also from interviews they made Uncharted to be a franchise that they could revisit as many times as they want. There is no trilogy or "the end". They could keep on making adventure for God knows how long.
TLOU is their first M rated game, another sign of maturation.
I am not saying they won't make new IPs in the future but they are not going to abandon these gen ip's for sure not.
For them to waste time on JAK 4, I mean that is beneath their level at this point.
I do believe Jak 4 is in development, but not by them.
Just like Sucker Punch let Sanzaru make collection and now Sly 4 so is
Naughty Dog letting someone else do the port, and maybe same studio will make Jak 4. With their help of course.

Well, Jak definitely needs better treatment than some unproven studio. But yeah, platformers of the non-Nintendo kind are having a hard time these days. But most likely the rest of the studio is on a new IP for the PS4. Uncharted can't hold its fans for much longer, honestly, the formula is wearing thin.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
That's crazy. I Am Legend is one of my favorites movies within the last 5 years.

Did you go into it without having read the book? If so I could see someone possibly getting some enjoyment
out of the beginning,
but otherwise it's hard for me to relate.

The book really murders it. And if you're not a Will Smith fan...
 
I'd like to see an emphasis on scavenging and forming bands of survivors and fending off pillaging gangs during the daytime while during night, an emphasis is placed on hiding and evasion of the infected. Food should have to be hunted to regain stamina or found, while bandages and supplies heal wounds that would enable the infected to find you. Medical supplies could also be used to trade and form unions with other survivors. The camera should be pan in during combat and I'm not sure if this is possible but have sides of the controller shake as an indicator of which direction an enemy is coming from. It would act as a representation of sound and/or touch. For instance if an enemy is approaching from the right the right side of the controller will vibrate or if the enemy is coming from the left that side will vibrate but if they are approaching from the back the entire controller will shake. Also this WILL NOT discriminate between friend and foe so players will have to be careful and not be too trigger happy.

This sounds more like a tower defense or RTS game. You should look at Fortnite instead.
 
I would also love it if this game would have a third person view. The great things I love about third person view games is the ability to see your character. With Uncharted, you can see Drake's facial animations, and movement animations. I also tend to be more connected to the character I'm playing as if I see them more on my screen. In a first person view game, you only see your character when you die. The animations of other characters are there for viewing, but it's just not the same.
 

bengraven

Member
Did you go into it without having read the book? If so I could see someone possibly getting some enjoyment
out of the beginning,
but otherwise it's hard for me to relate.

The book really murders it. And if you're not a Will Smith fan...

I Am Legend is probably one of the most atmospheric, tense, creative and fun survival horror books of the last one hundred years and in many ways created the genre as it is now.

Someone could have made a more faithful, much better film for 1/4 of the budget.
 

SRTtoZ

Member
Naughty Dog just keeps on beastin'. This game looks like Uncharted in a much more unique environment and plot. Its gonna be fun...
 

Corto

Member
Has it been discussed where it might take place? I think the trailer at least is set in Ohio.

The highway sign says "Colerain Avenue" which I Googled and is in Cincinnati Ohio.
[url]http://i.imgur.com/IvNKU.jpg[/URL]


Also there's a sign that says "Dennison" and there's a Denison College in Ohio. Spelled differently though.

Not that it means much since they said it'll take place in the United States which I guess could mean several places you'll end up in. But hey, I was bored.

There's a Dennison Hotel at Cincinnati too!

lou.jpg
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
: | Those are escort missions. If it is a character that you are not in control of that can die, then it's an escort mission. Alyx in Episode 1 is an escort mission. The chopper pilot in Modern Warfare 1 is an escort mission. The girl in RE4 is an escort mission. Most of Ico is an escort mission. Whether or not it's an escort mission doesnt depend on how fun or easy it is.

The buddy characters don't die in Uncharted, in my experience. I'm not sure if they even can.

If it's an escort mission where the person you are escorting cannot die then why would you use "escort mission" as a pejorative, anyway? People hate them because sometimes the AI is shitty and it results in cheap deaths. Take that away, and it's not an "escort mission" in any traditional sense of the word.

You're seriously making the most extreme claim possible, that this entire game will be an escort mission, yet your definition of it is meaningless.
 
There is no way ND is going to "move on" from Uncharted or TLOU (unless it flops). The reason why they moved from Crash is because Acti is the publisher, and that's when they joined Sony. Jak was their first Sony IP and from all the interviews it didn't make sense to make mature game on PS2 because tech wasn't there, so once PS3 rolled in, they decided to finally make something more mature, and plus no one cares about platformers any more. They were one FPS of all selling charts.

Also from interviews they made Uncharted to be a franchise that they could revisit as many times as they want. There is no trilogy or "the end". They could keep on making adventure for God knows how long.
TLOU is their first M rated game, another sign of maturation.
I am not saying they won't make new IPs in the future but they are not going to abandon these gen ip's for sure not.
For them to waste time on JAK 4, I mean that is beneath their level at this point.
I do believe Jak 4 is in development, but not by them.
Just like Sucker Punch let Sanzaru make collection and now Sly 4 so is
Naughty Dog letting someone else do the port, and maybe same studio will make Jak 4. With their help of course.

I never said they would stop visiting these new franchises. They won't and they shouldn't.

Jak 4 being beneath them is fucking bullshit though. It's perfectly fine for someone else to port the games to HD since they are done already, or even do a spin off game (with their supervision) like Bend with Uncharted Golden Shower. I don't know if they supervised the PSP Daxter and Jak games, but I don't think they did, so maybe they care more about Uncharted than Jak after all.

Sanzaru making Sly 4 is a big slap in the face of Sly fans, I'm not sure SP is completely happy about that or they just didn't care as they had moved on and don't have enough bandwidth for 2 simultaneous games currently. ND is big enough where they do have the bandwidth to develop 2 games simultaneously and they are the ones that should do Jak 4, not Ready at Dawn or Sanzaru or whatever.
 

Yeef

Member
That's crazy. I Am Legend is one of my favorites movies within the last 5 years.
I agree that the first half was excellent, but it really, really goes down hill when
the dog dies and other the people show up.
I Am Legend is probably one of the most atmospheric, tense, creative and fun survival horror books of the last one hundred years and in many ways created the genre as it is now.

Someone could have made a more faithful, much better film for 1/4 of the budget.
I haven't actually seen any of the other adaptations, but there are a few different ones. One of them is probably more similar to the source material. I'm a big fan of Matheson's short stories and Twilight Zone stuff, but haven't ever read any of his novels. Maybe I'll pick up I Am Legend.
 

Globox_82

Banned
I never said they would stop visiting these new franchises. They won't and they shouldn't.


Sanzaru making Sly 4 is a big slap in the face of Sly fans, I'm not sure SP is completely happy about that or they just didn't care as they had moved on and don't have enough bandwidth for 2 simultaneous games currently. ND is big enough where they do have the bandwidth to develop 2 games simultaneously and they are the ones that should do Jak 4, not Ready at Dawn or Sanzaru or whatever.

So you played it and it sucks? If game is good I don't care who makes it, that placebo effect that studio logos has on some of you is absolutely hilarious
 

Sky Chief

Member
So today is press day? We haven't heard anything yet so I assume there must be an embargo. Has Arne or anyone else said when the embargo will be lifting? I must know more about this game.
 
Not to be one of "those guys" and sound pretentious but, I would highly recommend reading the book. The movie did change some key things that I really didn't like.

Yeah. Like, the entire ending. Very disappointing.

If I get any vibe from this trailer, it's actually more like The Road.
 
So you played it and it sucks? If game is good I don't care who makes it, that placebo effect that studio logos has on some of you is absolutely hilarious

It's not a placebo effect when the developer is unknown or mediocre. And I believe the main story line games should be developed by its creators. Bend is gonna deliver a great experience with Uncharted, albeit SP only experience, but I wouldn't want them making Uncharted 4. I haven't played it but I feel pretty confident in saying that Resistance Vita is gonna suck and will probably be the worst game in the series just based of how mediocre the developer is.
 

wouwie

Member
I like the music towards the end of the video.

Me too. Awesome music. Reminds me of Gustavo Santaolalla who did the music for the movie Motorcycle Diaries (see also Ronroco, his solo album).

I love the instrument used, which according to wiki, is a charango (a sort of "guitar" in South America). I presume it's the same instrument used here or at least it sounds similar. Such a moody instrument.

I wonder if Greg Edmonson is doing the music.
 

hey_it's_that_dog

benevolent sexism
Yeah. Like, the entire ending. Very disappointing.

If I get any vibe from this trailer, it's actually more like The Road.

I haven't read or seen The Road, but I hope this game really capitalizes on the father/daughter relationship (even if they're not really related by blood) and the fact that one of them knows what the world was like before and the other is growing up in the new one. Also, she has to learn morality from him, but at the same time he's doing all this horrible shit that he probably couldn't have imagined himself doing before everything went sour.

It's a powerful premise. Don't fuck it up, ND!

edit: I mean, she wouldn't be learning morality from him from scratch. I said that badly. But he'd obviously have a big influence as a parental figure.
 

watership

Member
Did you go into it without having read the book? If so I could see someone possibly getting some enjoyment
out of the beginning,
but otherwise it's hard for me to relate.

The book really murders it. And if you're not a Will Smith fan...

The book's also been made into a movie 4 times now. When I am legend came out, I was already sorta annoyed.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I haven't read or seen The Road, but I hope this game really capitalizes on the father/daughter relationship (even if they're not really related by blood) and the fact that one of them knows what the world was like before and the other is growing up in the new one. Also, she has to learn morality from him, but at the same time he's doing all this horrible shit that he probably couldn't have imagined himself doing before everything went sour.

It's a powerful premise. Don't fuck it up, ND!

It's honestly the character interaction stuff that I'm really excited for in this. ND has done such a wonderful job of making me love the characters in Uncharted that I have a ton of confidence that they can pull this off. If the character performances are as natural as in Uncharted this could be really special.
 

TripOpt55

Member
We don't know yet. I'm sure will find out sometime today if there's an NDA or not. TTP is there so he'll probably share what he can.

Thanks for the info. Big thread to search back through when you wake up and wasn't sure if we knew yet. Can't wait to see more on this.
 

Globox_82

Banned
It's not a placebo effect when the developer is unknown or mediocre. And I believe the main story line games should be developed by its creators. Bend is gonna deliver a great experience with Uncharted, albeit SP only experience, but I wouldn't want them making Uncharted 4. I haven't played it but I feel pretty confident in saying that Resistance Vita is gonna suck and will probably be the worst game in the series just based of how mediocre the developer is.

Sucker Punch was also unknown at one point, so was ND, etc. You are just jumping to the conclusions. The fact is we won't know how good next Sly game really is. Maybe it will suck, but to dismiss it right away just because it doesn't have a logo of original developer is silly.
Plus we don't know how involved SP is.
Resistance Vita will be mediocre? Bro that whole franchise is mediocre. Sure R3 was really nice game, but it is not AAA that some Sony bros make it sound, or at least want to believe that it is.
Same goes for KZ btw.
 

Squire

Banned
So will there be previews coming out of the press day soon or will it be a while.

Embargo should last a week at most. What reason do they have to keep this hidden? I'm even expecting video of said press demo relatively soon. If its been in development with a full team for two years, I'm sure it's in a state that's excepts le for media AND consumer sight.
 

Evolved1

make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
And now we wait...

Same here! I thought it sounded like a more simplistic version of the song Iguazu, which was featured in Deadwood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfusxHokCDg

The song that plays after (Deadwood spoilers)
Wild Bill Hickok gets shot.

Edit: Wow, posted the exact same thing as Wouwie.

Damn I've listened to this song a few times now. Pretty awesome. And great in the trailer.
 
Sucker Punch was also unknown at one point, so was ND, etc. You are just jumping to the conclusions. The fact is we won't know how good next Sly game really is. Maybe it will suck, but to dismiss it right away just because it doesn't have a logo of original developer is silly.
Plus we don't know how involved SP is.
Resistance Vita will be mediocre? Bro that whole franchise is mediocre. Sure R3 was really nice game, but it is not AAA that some Sony bros make it sound, or at least want to believe that it is.
Same goes for KZ btw.

Killzone is not mediocre, it's a good series that is plagued by bad decisions from the developers. I have actually been meaning to write a LTTP on Killzone 3 but haven't gotten to it, thanks for the reminder. It's a B level franchise. Resistance is not mediocre either, it is just passable (with the exception of Retribution, that game was fun), but Resistance Vita will be the most mediocre game in the series, bar none.

And yes, I'm dismissing Sly 4 right away, maybe they can prove me wrong and persuade me otherwise but right now it's not even slightly on my radar, but it would have been if it was SP developing it. Be honest, if Jak 4 is announced, do you think people will pay much attention if Mass Media Inc (the people doing the HD port) are the ones making it? I don't, and rightfully so. Now if they say Naughty Dog is making (even if it's ND's Z team), then people will definitely keep an eye on it.

EDIT: I'm gonna stop talking about this because it's completely OT.
 
Yeah. Like, the entire ending. Very disappointing.

If I get any vibe from this trailer, it's actually more like The Road.

The Road is completely unrealistic. Humans wouldn't behave like selfish animals and do anything to survive. They would band together and make daisy bracelets for each other and have hugging competitions.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
That's crazy. I Am Legend is one of my favorites movies within the last 5 years.

Obviously have not read the book (which is free to get online, I suggest you do!). Even the alternate/original ending is a travesty to the book.

Also I hope they make Ellen Page look less like Ellen Page unless Ellen Page is secretly working on motion capture for Ellen Page. Ellen Page!
I hate Ellen Page.
 
Obviously have not read the book (which is free to get online, I suggest you do!). Even the alternate/original ending is a travesty to the book.

Also I hope they make Ellen Page look less like Ellen Page unless Ellen Page is secretly working on motion capture for Ellen Page. Ellen Page!
I hate Ellen Page.

Hate is a strong word. What did she do to you?
 

Globox_82

Banned
The Road is completely unrealistic. Humans wouldn't behave like selfish animals and do anything to survive. They would band together and make daisy bracelets for each other and have hugging competitions.

Like I said in another comment. People would not go ape shit and start rapping each other and steal, murder. Just look how people behaved in Japan. Everyone tried to help each other, risking their lives. There was almost zero stealing. People were finding and returning things, etc.
This theory that we would all go insane is just silly. People would just try to reboot.
 

Globox_82

Banned
Have no freaking clue who Ellen Page is or what Juno is. But looking at pics of this Ellen, I find her ugly. Girl in TLOU isn't ugly. Just my opinion.
 

charsace

Member
I'd like to see an emphasis on scavenging and forming bands of survivors and fending off pillaging gangs during the daytime while during night, an emphasis is placed on hiding and evasion of the infected. Food should have to be hunted to regain stamina or found, while bandages and supplies heal wounds that would enable the infected to find you. Medical supplies could also be used to trade and form unions with other survivors. The camera should be pan in during combat and I'm not sure if this is possible but have sides of the controller shake as an indicator of which direction an enemy is coming from. It would act as a representation of sound and/or touch. For instance if an enemy is approaching from the right the right side of the controller will vibrate or if the enemy is coming from the left that side will vibrate but if they are approaching from the back the entire controller will shake. Also this WILL NOT discriminate between friend and foe so players will have to be careful and not be too trigger happy.

So you want a serious version of Terraria? Shit, I want a big budget, post apocalyptic version of Terraria too.
 
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