FFXIII-2, MH3G, Inazuma Eleven Go, Mario Kart 7 and maybe SM3DLand.
Yep, possibility of 5 titles over 100k is concrete.
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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2011 (Dec 05 - Dec 11)
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FFXIII-2, MH3G, Inazuma Eleven Go, Mario Kart 7 and maybe SM3DLand.
Yep, possibility of 5 titles over 100k is concrete.
It was completely unintentional, haha.
frankie_baby
Member
Yeah I believe you
The article isn't listed at Nikkei News sector.
Well, if you want to live in bizarro fantasy land, then be my guest.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont see why it is potentially ominous because it is in stock 4 days after release. Being in stock could simply mean that Sony calculated the first shipment good enough to make sure that it is easy available during this holiday season, and this can be quite important concidering the heavy competition from the 3DS. It is too early to say anything about Vita's continuous sales pattern. I know that you said 'potenially', but based on what we know, personally i dont think it looks more potentially ominous than the 3DS, which is also in stock and easy to get.
A launch really should sell out unless the shipment is just massive, which this wasn't.
I'm assuming by that you mean it could be an article where the shipment information was sourced from another media outlet?
Edit: And on the topic at hand the only "potentially ominous" issue I see regarding the Vita is the possibility it ends up like the 3DS pre price-cut, and whether Sony has as much ability to manoeuvre as Nintendo did.
test_account
XP-39C²
Not necessarily. As i mentioned it can be that Sony shipped enough to make sure that they have enough stock this holiday season. And 500k (if that is the real number) is quite big in my opinion. Maybe not over-the-top-massive, but still quite big.
Selling 321k in two days is very good in my opinion, especially concidering the heavy competition from the 3DS. The 3DS is 10k-15k cheaper and it has currently 3 killer apps out there (MH3G, MK7, SM3DL). Hell, you can get a 3DS + those 3 games for the same price as the Vita Wifi/3G model
I can easily see that people go for this option instead this holiday season, but yet the Vita had a strong opening. And that is good news, it shows that there are interest in both systems so far.From what we know (that the Vita sold 321k in two days, and that the WiFi model is sold out at Amazon (not that this means everything in the big picture, but it is at least an indication that the Vita is still selling)), things look quite good right now i'd say. People can speculate if they want of course, by all means, i'm not saying anything against that, but i dont see any reason to be pessimistic yet based on what we know.
Not only is that a moving target but it's based on really ... nothing.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Well, that's the big question, isn't it?
The Vita seems to be selling roughly in line with the 3DS at launch - though the Vita has the benefit of hitting during the holidays - but I don't see anything that suggests the system won't see the same rapid drop-off that the 3DS did.
And if it does, what options do Sony have to "right the ship" in the way that Nintendo were forced to? Do they have the same room to manoeuvre on price and can they act as quickly? Have they got some major announcements waiting in the wings?
EDIT:
I think there's a tendency for people on the Sony side of the fence to get a bit defensive about these kind of questions, especially in light of a pretty decent FW, but I think it's fair to ask what makes the Vita so special compared to the 3DS - especially in Japan - that we're not going to see the same sales pattern? I'd argue that it lacks the list of compelling announcements that the 3DS did, even at launch - everyone knew MK was coming early, other popular first-party titles like Animal Crossing were certs, third-party stuff like Kingdom Hearts and RE was known about - and while the machine is certainly a beast, specs have never sold to any but a sliver of the potential market.
Uhh, I hope they keep that to a very short duration of the system's launch, because it is a horrible business model for the Vita if they rely on Vita software sales coming from people just happening to choose that version over identical versions on other platforms or double-dippers. It is just too high-end of a portable device and at this point a very limited seller in terms of potential demographics. Sony absolutely needs to get strong exclusives for the platform to thrive, and port-machine-age should be a byproduct of it being successful. Not the other way around.
test_account
XP-39C²
5k Yen pricedrop + bundling of game and/or memorycard perhaps.
First i must say that i dont think this is anything special about the Sony side. I've seen it for all systems, so i'd think it fairly equally for all systems.
But i'm not sure if you're referring to what i said, but what i said in my previous posts here is not about being defensive. I'm just saying that from what we know as a fact right now, nothing looks to be bad for the Vita sales. If someone says that the 3DS could still "fail" after this holiday season, i'm sure that many will comment on it and point to how good the 3DS is selling now because we know as a fact that the 3DS is really popular now, but i dont concider this as being defensive (again, i'm not sure that you're referring to what i said, but i'm just mentioning it anyway =)).
If there is anything that we have learned from the last 5-6 years is that things might not turn out the way it looks. Things can go both ways for sure, so people have choice of either being pessemistic, neutral or optimistic about the outcome, there is no right or wrong about this. In the very early life of a console it is pretty much just a wild guess anyway since we wont know the final answer before years later. And everyone is free to speculate all they want of course.
You're right; it's qualitative and subjective. What I mean is that it seems to be what every console manufacturer is after when they allocate their launch supplies. A short-term sellout has strong PR value, and if followed by steady shipments, can be accomplished without leaving sales on the table - a win/win. My read is that if Sony shipped 500k, they did so because they thought they could sell 500k at launch, although of course they'll never say any such thing.
AceBandage
Banned
Well, it'll do about 400K for last week.
Then we have this week.
And next.
I think there's a good chance.
Then we have this week.
And next.
I think there's a good chance.
It has three weeks to sell 766k. Shouldn't be a problem.
Not necessarily. As i mentioned it can be that Sony shipped enough to make sure that they have enough stock this holiday season. And 500k (if that is the real number) is quite big in my opinion. Maybe not over-the-top-massive, but still quite big.
Selling 321k in two days is very good in my opinion, especially concidering the heavy competition from the 3DS. The 3DS is 10k-15k cheaper and it has currently 3 killer apps out there (MH3G, MK7, SM3DL). Hell, you can get a 3DS + those 3 games for the same price as the Vita Wifi/3G model
From what we know (that the Vita sold 321k in two days, and that the WiFi model is sold out at Amazon (not that this means everything in the big picture, but it is at least an indication that the Vita is still selling)), things look quite good right now i'd say. People can speculate if they want of course, by all means, i'm not saying anything against that, but i dont see any reason to be pessimistic yet based on what we know.
The pessimism comes from a host of factors and conjectures that were made by many members long before the launch ever happened, some valid, some not-so-much. Some are just making the mistake of trying to use the launch as evidence of their previous suppositions and not just letting time take its course to see if they were right or not.
I think you might could change that to how close it will get to 4.5mil.
Eh... Maybe. It will most likely do it, but nothing's a sure thing until it happens. I mean, I though Vita selling through at least 80% of the launch stock was a no-brainier.
Though, perhaps the real question is, will 3DS hit 5 million LTD in it's first year?
Vyse The Legend
Member
When are last week's numbers coming out? Tomorrow morning (in the US)?
11 hours from now.
Edit: And Media Create has provided some early numbers. 325k for Vita with a 65% sell-through, 60k for PSP.
Original source
Andriasang article
MediaCreate confirms 65% sell out for Vita with 325k first "week". This would mean a 500k shipment.
Sales were actually up over last week.
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perfectchaos007
Member
3DS couldn't kill DS until the price drop
In US and EU, yea. Pretty sure 3DS has outsold the DS 95% of the time since it launched in Japan.
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AdventureRacing
Member
Actually now when MH3G only sells sub 100K units this week it will as overshipped as MH3. Price collapse incoming.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Capcom only shipped half of what the sold in the first week for MHP3? They must be really regretting their 3DS decision.
haadim
Member
Since its debut 3DS has been outsold by DS only once, the week just before the price slash.
Wonder if PSVita can maintain that kind of dominance over PSP in the coming days?
Don't forget about your < 500k for Vita in two weeks prediction!
jeremy1456
Junior Member
You shot yourself in the foot. What we want is a public apology and for you to cancel your previous statement.
Or you can kiss your business good bye.
EDIT: So the real question is what the game will sell in its second week, which will be revealed tomorrow.
Was it supply constrained? Can we expect 400k, or is 300k pushing it even?
jeremy1456
Junior Member
Sorry, my bad attempt at the FFXIII on 360 meme.
I got it!
jeremy1456
Junior Member
When I said supply constrained, I meant the week before. I was wondering if the demand was higher than supply so that much of it would still carry over to last week.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
Funniest thing about the PR statement?
Oh BABY!
well, my theory was -no- but i guess we'll find out. I sincerely hope that Capcom do -not- get burnt on this. Prediction aside, there's nothing i'd like better than to see them see more success with Monster Hunter.
Oh BABY!
well, my theory was -no- but i guess we'll find out. I sincerely hope that Capcom do -not- get burnt on this. Prediction aside, there's nothing i'd like better than to see them see more success with Monster Hunter.
Full press release:
Source: http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/news/html/e111221.htmlCapcom IR said: