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CES 2012 |OT| - Tablets and TVs and Tech...Oh My!

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giga

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Raistlin said:
Don't know.

I'd be surprised if it's natural language based, but I'm not quite sure that's needed for this usage. Either way, I'd have to look into it.

Given this sort of things is very web-centric, I suppose they could do natural language if they wanted too.
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"Siri, play last night's episode of Mad Men"
"Go back to episode 5 actually"
"Siri, play some michael jackson"
"When is the next episode of Parks and Recreation?"

It will be awesome.
 
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brotkasten

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giga said:
"Siri, play last night's episode of Mad Men"
"Go back to episode 5 actually"
"Siri, play some michael jackson"
"When is the next episode of Parks and Recreation?"

It will be awesome.
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When I saw the Siri demo for the first time and heard how natural the responds sound (at least compared to other solutions), I was in home automatisation heaven. Seriously (no pun intended), I'd love to have it at least in my living room, but across the apartment would be even better. One of the first things I do in the morning, is checking the weather forecast on my phone and doing that from bed, without even moving an inch? Yes, please. Give me the future, now!

...

Ah well, maybe in 5-10 years.
 
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gcubed

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Raistlin said:
The interface looks like it's been updated a bit more than that :p as has performance





While that may be true, it's convenient to not include Google in the blame as well. GoogleTV was typical Google Beta material - if that. I think quite obviously, the companies involved were led to believe it would be much further along than it was.


*looks at Boxee ... Popcorn Hour ... Dune ... etc.*
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Oh im not absolving google of any blame. The initial release was crap.
 
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kehs

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brotkasten said:
When I saw the Siri demo for the first time and heard how natural the responds sound (at least compared to other solutions), I was in home automatisation heaven. Seriously (no pun intended), I'd love to have it at least in my living room, but across the apartment would be even better. One of the first things I do in the morning, is checking the weather forecast on my phone and doing that from bed, without even moving an inch? Yes, please. Give me the future, now!

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Ah well, maybe in 5-10 years.
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Not to sound like a google tv shill, but since the device is always on, you can use an alarm application to turn the tv or receiver on and load up the weather application.
 
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SSGMUN10000

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This year will be the year I will be getting a TV for sure. I have held off for several years now since moving into my house. The new TV announcements will be the highlights for me. Looking for a 60-65" TV. The new Google TV looks nice.
 
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brotkasten

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Copernicus said:
Not to sound like a google tv shill, but since the device is always on, you can use an alarm application to turn the tv or receiver on and load up the weather application.
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And the app would actually tell me how the weather is like? Because if not, I could just continue to use my phone. I just have to unlock it and I see the forecast. Because, you know, live tiles just work like that.
 
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kehs

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brotkasten said:
And the app would actually tell me how the weather is like? Because if not, I could just continue to use my phone. I just have to unlock it and I see the forecast. Because, you know, live tiles just work like that.
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Well....what else would a weather app do?
 
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Nemo

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Looking very forward to this. Particular fields I'm interested in are Microsoft's moves for Windows8 and phone and Acer's presentation (since they gave the notion they want to move away from "cheap produced crap")
 
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Technosteve

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Windows 8 on tablets will be a cluster fuck, i can't even wrap my head how they are going to market it. The Arm version and the Intel version how are they going to market that?
 
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Raistlin

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Copernicus said:
That's all included in the 2.0 update, it's the TV and Video app.

https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwxLDUwMCwiY29tLmdvb2dsZS50di5hbGYiXQ..

Which you don't have to use btw, there's a couple of replacements apps for live tv.
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I see we have a failure to communicate :p


When you posted it was just a couple of extra widgets, I thought you were referring to vs 1.0. As though those widgets were the only change. My bad. I was stating that 2.0 is different from 1.0.

As you said though, what's in those pics are LG widgets ... and also as you said, you don't have to use them. Apparently you can run either the standard 2.0 skin or the LG one.
 
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kehs

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Technosteve said:
Windows 8 on tablets will be a cluster fuck, i can't even wrap my head how they are going to market it. The Arm version and the Intel version how are they going to market that?
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w/ Legacy support and w/o Legacy support

As long as MS gets their a compatible version of their major products (ie office/messenger/etc) they can ride the w/o Legacy support without a problem.

Raistlin said:
I see we have a failure to communicate :p
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Seems that way, hehe.
 
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Raistlin

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bdizzle said:
I had high hopes for Google TV, but it looks like it's gonna probably suck. I'm off the hype train.
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Weird, I thought the opposite after seeing the vid. Doubt it will be the ultimate answer, but seems like it's moving in the right direction.
 
poppabk

poppabk

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giga said:
"Siri, play last night's episode of Mad Men"
"Go back to episode 5 actually"
"Siri, play some michael jackson"
"When is the next episode of Parks and Recreation?"

It will be awesome.
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Do people actually watch tv like that though? I know that I don't really know what I want to watch and will browse through live tv then my movie collection then my recorded tv then hulu then netflix etc.
The vast majority of the time voice recognition wouldn't be used. It would be nice from time to time but nothing game changing.
 
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zoku88

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With all of the focus on OLED TVs people seem to have, I hope some players also reveal moderately sized (24" inch-ish) OLED monitors... :(
 
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Zyzyxxz

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Toshiba 55"
-Glasses free 3DTV
-4k resolution
-Releasing Q1 2012
-Price $..wait for it....10,000.

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Raistlin

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brotkasten said:
Because it's another official video from Google that shows how cool Google TV is?
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Maybe it's been a long week or something and I'm a little slow ... but I'm really not understanding what you're saying here.

You posted a year old cartoon that was introducing features of v1. I posted a video showing the actual v2 UI and performance improvements over last gen.

In your previous post you asked 'but how is it better than what we already have?' ... and I'll ask again, what do you mean? I'm saying v2 looks to perform better. How is it better than what we have? There's a good chance it's the best smart TV platform.



Maybe part of the problem is me calling it v2. I'm not sure if the Honeycomb update that hit a little while back is technically called that. If so, I apologize ... I'm referring to the new updated HW and rev that's being demoed for CES.
 
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Raistlin

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Technosteve said:
that's a decent price for a 4k display..... i thought OLED was supposed to make TV's CHEAPER
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Well ... OLED isn't actually out, but even when it is ... they're only just starting to move towards the fab process that should eventually get them cheap relative to other techs.

Regardless, there's no indication there are 4K OLED's coming soon, nor glassesless 3D ... so this technically doesn't have competition from OLED. It's essentially in a different sector.
 
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brotkasten

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Raistlin said:
Maybe it's been a long week or something and I'm a little slow ... but I'm really not understanding what you're saying here.

You posted a year old cartoon that was introducing features of v1. I posted a video showing the actual v2 UI and performance improvements over last gen.

In your previous post you asked 'but how is it better than what we already have?' ... and I'll ask again, what do you mean? I'm saying v2 looks to perform better. How is it better than what we have? There's a good chance it's the best smart TV platform.
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What I'm saying is that the video is just a marketing video. Of course it looks awesome. Just like it did in the video from last year. Until I see an impressive demo, it's just another E3 2005 trailer.
 
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Raistlin

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brotkasten said:
What I'm saying is that the video is just a marketing video. Of course it looks awesome. Just like it did in the video from last year. Until I see an impressive demo, it's just another E3 2005 trailer.
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Yes it was a marketing video, but it was also showing the platform live.

If you're skeptical ... fine. There will be plenty of demos in a few days.
 
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Samsung teases 'Super' OLED TV with CES banner

The CES showfloor doesn't open until next week, but here's one reason to arrive early in Las Vegas. Banners are popping up outside the convention center, and one of the big ones looming over the Central Hall entrance advertises its OLED TV presence. The choice of hyperbole specifically is "Ultimate TV... Super OLED Sensation." If we had to guess what size this "Super OLED" TV would be, we'd probably say 55 inches — that's how large LG's recently-announced (and self-touted "world's largest") OLED TV is, and that's the size Samsung is expected to release before the 2012 Olympics. With LG's set also being just 4mm thin, we're curious to see if Samsung will try to match the thickness or try to differentiate in other ways. That "super" has to count for something, right? It probably goes without saying, but this is just one in a million (not literally but close) televisions we'll see next week.
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Neustar Catalyst lets any retailer sell UltraViolet digital movies

We're going to hear a lot about Hollywood's UltraViolet centralized-DRM locker system at CES this year — after a rough launch with just a few movies on the Warner-owned Flixster service, the studios are planning a big push that'll try and live up to the system's promise of buy-anywhere-play-anywhere movies. A big part of that is expanding distribution, and a company called Neustar Media is making it easy for retailers to get on board with UltraViolet: its new Catalyst storefront is basically a ready-to-go UltraViolet retail site, complete with content licensing deals to get the stores off the ground. Retailers can skin Catalyst any way they want and add their own content to the mix, or they can just leave it stock. There's also a player app for consumers that works across devices; it's smart enough to look for previously-downloaded movies on your local network rather than pulling from the cloud every time.

Neustar actually developed the underlying UltraViolet coordinator software, so it's a natural step for the company to work on distribution as well; retailers would otherwise need the technical expertise to support the entire UltraViolet framework, complete with the five different DRM systems within it. Catalyst lets retailers skip all of that work and go straight to selling movies and competing against other retailers — Neustar VP George Myers told us he thinks 2012 will be "the year of the retailer," with lots of competition around digital media pricing and margins as the industry grows beyond just Apple and Amazon. According to Myers, UltraViolet will allow "someone to come in and disrupt everyone" with a storefront that isn't tied to a single ecosystem but rather an industry-wide platform.

Of course, one major advantage both Apple and Amazon offer right now is the ability to rent movies, which UltraViolet doesn't support — Myers says that UltraViolet is currently "missing the market" on rentals and that Catalyst is ready to support them as soon as support is built into the system. We'll see if there's any news around rentals at CES and take some time to play with Catalyst while we're at it.
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This sounds promising, as it will likely lead to some nice pricing competition. Both for purchases ... and eventually for renting (which I think really could use some movement).

Here's hoping some of the eventual rental offerings can compete with Vudu HDX in terms of A/V quality.
 
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My ATT contract expires in June... I can't wait to see the phones they show at CES! What big announcements can I expect?
 
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brotkasten

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Finally something useful from Motorola.

It looks like Motorola will be introducing some form of wireless charging at CES 2012 next week. The company just posted a teaser video of what they have in store for us, and Motorola's hardly gone for subtlety here — the video features a crying USB plug and the tagline "Stay Unplugged." We'll be sure to let you know exactly what this is all about the second we hear more from Las Vegas
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/7/2689625/motorola-wireless-charging-tease-ces-2012
 
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Looks like that bizarre Always Innovating outfit is going to be attending this year via Texas Instruments with...an HDMI Dongle? http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/products/hdmidongle.htm $50-100'ish apparently
ALWAYS INNOVATING INNOVATES AGAIN WITH THE HDMI DONGLE.

LAS VEGAS, Nevada, January, 2012

Always Innovating is pleased to announce the HDMI Dongle, a revolutionary new portable set-top box. The HDMI Dongle is a device of the size of a stick that can be plugged into any HDMI port to transform a dumb TV into a smart Internet-connected screen. The HDMI Dongle enables Internet browsing, movie watching and games.

The HDMI Dongle can run Android Ice Cream Sandwich and is technically compatible with GoogleTV. The device provides a full-compatible Android experience and any application for this operating system can run on the dongle. The HDMI Dongle can stream and decode from the Internet 1080p H.264 video. The device is compatible with popular services such as Netflix, Hulu or Amazon video-on-demand. The user interface is controlled with a 9-button remote control for easy navigation, and voice recognition for text input. The accelerometer located in the remote control enables a set of gravity-based games. The remote control also features a NFC chip to offer a tap-to-share experience.

The HDMI Dongle is based on the Texas Instruments Cortex-A9 OMAP 4 which can run from 1GHz to 1.8GHz depending of the configuration. It offers 1GB of RAM and a micro SD card for local storage. The Wi-Fi and Bluetooth module enables the device to connect to the Internet and to any Bluetooth-enabled accessories.

Always Innovating does not intend to produce the HDMI Dongle but offers it on a licensing basis. The HDMI Dongle is expected to hit the selves with a first licensee during the summer 2012. The HDMI Dongle can also be used as the heart of a tablet or MID device. An expansion slot features interfaces to camera and LVDS screen which allows to plug a 1920x1080 LCD. The PCB provides all the features of a tablet including Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, battery management, camera and NFC connectivity.

Like all other Always Innovating products, the HDMI Dongle is fully Open Source.

About the Company
Founded by serial entrepreneur Grégoire Gentil, Always Innovating leverages the latest developments in open source technologies worldwide to create innovative products that solve real problems for consumers. The company is based in San Francisco, California.
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bsb

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Warner will apparently be making an annoucment about new plans for high resolution music at CES. The article is a couple months old, so I hope this is still true.

I was also impressed by Kallman's determination not to repeat the mistakes of the DVD-A and SACD campaigns of a decade ago. A lot of the business details are still being worked out, so specifics about the new high-resolution releases were in short supply. Kallman did promise that Warner's commitment to high-resolution will be "active and aggressive," and the formal announcement will take place at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in January 2012. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, hoping that all of the major and indie record labels get serious about releasing better-sounding music next year. We'll see.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-13645_3-2...o-release-high-resolution-music/?tag=mncol;1n
 
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