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Final Fantasy VII 15th Anniversary
- Thread starter Kagari
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I thought Cloud's weaknesses and complexities made him a far more interesting character than Zack, though I like him too. Pitting the two against each other always seems so silly, though I suppose it's inevitable given Zack's influence on Cloud. I thought it was kind of nice back then to have a protagonist who was a little bit jerky and insecure. I couldn't help but root for him throughout the game. And by the end of it, he comes out a pretty stellar guy.
I was older when I played FF7 than a few people in this thread are now. Urgh. But that's what's so great about this game. It resonated with such a wide range of people.
Yeah, you're right. When I think Ion Storm, John always pops into my head. I'm positive that interview was with Romero though, it stuck out in my mind pretty sharply and had a small picture of cloud and co. fighting in a forest area. He was talking about the "3D CG style" of story-centric games and FFVII being an inspiration for that. But I mean that was back in 96-97... the details are a little hazy.
Impossible.
It makes me really sad, because I think about the nest of birds on Mt. Corel and the choice you have to make. Get 10 phoenix downs and destroy the nest, or leave it alone? Thinking that someone would take the phoenix downs makes me sad.
I'd like to believe not. I think it entirely depends on the person in charge of the game (such as you-know-who).
Jiggling aside, Tifa was handled well enough in Dissidia. There's nothing wrong with creating an attractive character or inserting fanservice when the situation is appropriate.
The above gif'd FMV is none of those things. It was a blatant zoomed-in boob fest that marred the tension of the story that was happening earlier.
In fact, much of FFVII inserts inappropriately comedic moments in-between some of its darkest points.
Aerith dies>comical Elena "fight">Snowboarding mini-game
Cloud goes nuts, Sephiroth gets Materia>bouncing CG juggs during FMV
Tifa nearly dies, Weapon is destroying Junon>slap fight
And so on.
Anyway, the more realistic the Remake's graphics are, the less I'll have to worry about how she'll be depicted.
As long as they match this level of visuals, everything will be fine:
Won't stop fanboys from their balloonish fanart, but at least they'll realize SE isn't intentionally shoving the tits in your face.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I didn't.
only because Tifa and Aeris were there, I couldn't do it!
Cloud was a loser who had to steal someone's identity to hide himself from his weak self and serious lack of confidence.
That alone make him several times more interesting that most JRPG protagonits.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
This is the one FF of that era that doesn't stand out to me. Also the only one I've never replayed. Just..don't like it much. I think it was having come off of things like Lufia(2 more than 1 for me), FF5/6, and Chrono Trigger that made it feel just like another entry in a long list of triple AAA games rather than something momentous like for those who'd never even played an RPG. It most definitely has memorable moments, but I still get surprised by how many people on gaf scream "greatest game of all time!" and "remake please!" for this game.
Also honestly shocked (well, interested) by how many people were "surprised" at getting out of Midgar and "finding a whole world". For people who've never played an RPG I guess that makes total sense, but for those who had..really? You didn't expect an overworld with airship travel for an FF game by that point in time? Though I wonder how long it took the average player back then to get through Midgar. I don't remember it being very long at all so if that's really all the game was it wouldn't quite be an RPG haha.
Also honestly shocked (well, interested) by how many people were "surprised" at getting out of Midgar and "finding a whole world". For people who've never played an RPG I guess that makes total sense, but for those who had..really? You didn't expect an overworld with airship travel for an FF game by that point in time? Though I wonder how long it took the average player back then to get through Midgar. I don't remember it being very long at all so if that's really all the game was it wouldn't quite be an RPG haha.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Happy Anniversary!
NOW MAKE THE DAMN REMAKE ALREADY.
NOW MAKE THE DAMN REMAKE ALREADY.
I'd never played a console RPG before, much less a Final Fantasy game. So, yes, I was surprised. And the first time I played, I think it took a dozen or so hours before I was out of Midgar (though I tend to waste a lot of time exploring), so I had no reason to believe it wouldn't all take place there.
Happy Anniversary!
NOW MAKE THE DAMN REMAKE ALREADY.
they predicted the future of video games.
illmatic22
Banned
Agreed.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Happy Anniversary!
NOW MAKE THE DAMN REMAKE ALREADY.
Those 30,000 gil are the greatest money I've ever spent in-game in any game ever.
I'd like to believe not. I think it entirely depends on the person in charge of the game (such as you-know-who).
Jiggling aside, Tifa was handled well enough in Dissidia. There's nothing wrong with creating an attractive character or inserting fanservice when the situation is appropriate.
The above gif'd FMV is none of those things. It was a blatant zoomed-in boob fest that marred the tension of the story that was happening earlier.
In fact, much of FFVII inserts inappropriately comedic moments in-between some of its darkest points.
Aerith dies>comical Elena "fight">Snowboarding mini-game
Cloud goes nuts, Sephiroth gets Materia>bouncing CG juggs during FMV
Tifa nearly dies, Weapon is destroying Junon>slap fight
And so on.
Anyway, the more realistic the Remake's graphics are, the less I'll have to worry about how she'll be depicted.
As long as they match this level of visuals, everything will be fine:
Won't stop fanboys from their balloonish fanart, but at least they'll realize SE isn't intentionally shoving the tits in your face.
Uh, have you *seen* turd birthday? Realism won't prevent anything.
THIS! It horrified me to imagine someone picking that option. I tried it once to see what would ensue and instantly reset because 'my' Cloud would never do that.
brandonh83
Banned
As I was doing all the Shinra stuff a storm was building outside, then once I got to that part when Sephiroth steals JENOVA and leaves the blood trail the storm started with really heavy rain and lightning that lit up my entire room. I loved the way the music stayed quite and eerie even during the battles so it didn't drown out the thunder at all.
VII was great.
VII was great.
THIS! It horrified me to imagine someone picking that option. I tried it once to see what would ensue and instantly reset because 'my' Cloud would never do that.
I did it in my current playthrough ;_;
Never before and never again! ;_;
Itchy//Tasty
Member
I can't think of a better way to celebrate the anniversary of this masterpiece than with Fiddle De Chocobo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJmvj7o4ook&feature=related
Listen to the whole thing. DO IT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJmvj7o4ook&feature=related
Listen to the whole thing. DO IT
The most anticipated epic adventure of that year.
I still remember the day that I watched a trailer of the game in a demo disc and I said "Beautiful"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-toUi9jDc
I still remember the day that I watched a trailer of the game in a demo disc and I said "Beautiful"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ-toUi9jDc
H_Prestige
Banned
I liked reading the instruction booklet in this game, especially the character bios. I remember being so intrigued by Sephiroth's description, thinking to myself, "man, this guy must be a BOSS, can't wait till I meet him". Then I finally got to the flashback part of the game and saw Sephiroth deal like 3000+ damage on a giant dragon in a single sword slash, killing him instantly. I was just in awe of his HP/MP and that giant sword and that made me want to get to level 50 ASAP.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Holy Batman!! spoilers!!
I would be pissed if I watched the trailer back then, the only info I had was a 2 page preview on my preferred magazine back there.I kinda miss those times, when you only had a few screens and a few lines of description.
Anticitizen One
Banned
anyone gonna replay this game? I never beat it so I wanna try again
Unknown One
Member
I replayed it last year so it's still fresh to me.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
My parents originally bought me a PSX and FFVII when I was 11. They didn't realize that the PSX needed a video card for this game. I ended up playing through the Midgar three times before my parents were able to get me a memory card.
I'm redoing the whole series for the 25th anniversary. Currently on 3, will get to 7 eventually.
cj_iwakura
Member
Died
I'm currently replaying Chrono Cross, now I'll have to do this once I'm done.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Join us in this thread. You don't have to play the games in any order, and you don't have to play all the games if you don't want to! You can just play FFVII and run with it.
I greatly enjoyed playing FF7 when I was a teen, it was my second favorite game at that point too ( first was Terranigma ).
I think the aspect that is still relevant about FF7 is how it was a transition experiment where Square gave it all not knowing well the destination.
The result was a crazy game ( in a good way ), that's why I think a remake would have a bigger chance to ruin the game spirit.
Too bad we never got the second part :-\
I think the aspect that is still relevant about FF7 is how it was a transition experiment where Square gave it all not knowing well the destination.
The result was a crazy game ( in a good way ), that's why I think a remake would have a bigger chance to ruin the game spirit.
Awesome, awesome game.
Too bad we never got the second part :-\
funkystudent
Member
Never actually owned a copy until the PSN release.
I just borrowed my uncles copy for a few weeks at a time.
took over a year until I got to the end.
Best memory? Like alot of people probably exiting midgar and seeing that was just one small part of a whole world. my 10 year old mind was blown.
sector 7 getting blown and seeing good characters die was crazy as well when all you have played before that was mario and spyro.
Great music as well.
<3 Cosmo canyon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poh9VDGhLNA
I just borrowed my uncles copy for a few weeks at a time.
took over a year until I got to the end.
Best memory? Like alot of people probably exiting midgar and seeing that was just one small part of a whole world. my 10 year old mind was blown.
sector 7 getting blown and seeing good characters die was crazy as well when all you have played before that was mario and spyro.
Great music as well.
<3 Cosmo canyon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Poh9VDGhLNA
The best music-to-moment match in the game is the main overworld theme climax when
Cloud takes off his soldier mask in the lifestream flashback.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Best game ever. That intro... goddamn, that was the best xmas ever. On my main/first save I am sure I have like 1500 hours on it, I just never somehow grow tired of just running around, slapping things around, going to places and listenin to the tunes, talking to the random crazy people and such.
Edit: Listening to Cid's Theme, that part really rules.
All these jazzy lounge tunes rule too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWu9iQLwrC8&feature=related
Edit: Listening to Cid's Theme, that part really rules.
All these jazzy lounge tunes rule too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWu9iQLwrC8&feature=related
I think, like with everyone else, leaving Midgar was the defining moment.
I love Midgar. Such a defined sense of 'place'. I would have been happy with the entire game taking place there. And, actually, I do wish there was more of it. Would have liked to have maybe seen an afluent area of the city, rather than just slums, power plants and office complexes. It basically did Deus Ex Human Revolution's shtick years before!
There was actually a bit of disappointment experienced when I went to other towns and they were nowhere near as well realised as Midgar. Oh well.
Interestingly enough, like most RPGs I played it, got about halfway through then stopped for whatever reason. Except I did this like five times over the years, finally one day knuckling down when I was 18 and forcing through. Such an incredible experience.
When it comes to assessing FFVII, I feel like we've been stuck with the "best RPG ever!"/"terrible FF game!" dichotomy for so long now. The way I see it is as a simply good RPG, executed with immense skill, wit and charm.
It's an interesting transition game. 3D graphics with sprite-work sensibilities in the artstyle. I'm actually amazed that the clashing artstyle from the CG movies doesn't jar as much as it could. For this reason, I don't want a remake. None of the humour, or really even the more subtle elements of the story, would gel really well with the faux-realism style now associated with Final Fantasy VII thanks to the Compilation.
I love Midgar. Such a defined sense of 'place'. I would have been happy with the entire game taking place there. And, actually, I do wish there was more of it. Would have liked to have maybe seen an afluent area of the city, rather than just slums, power plants and office complexes. It basically did Deus Ex Human Revolution's shtick years before!
There was actually a bit of disappointment experienced when I went to other towns and they were nowhere near as well realised as Midgar. Oh well.
Interestingly enough, like most RPGs I played it, got about halfway through then stopped for whatever reason. Except I did this like five times over the years, finally one day knuckling down when I was 18 and forcing through. Such an incredible experience.
When it comes to assessing FFVII, I feel like we've been stuck with the "best RPG ever!"/"terrible FF game!" dichotomy for so long now. The way I see it is as a simply good RPG, executed with immense skill, wit and charm.
It's an interesting transition game. 3D graphics with sprite-work sensibilities in the artstyle. I'm actually amazed that the clashing artstyle from the CG movies doesn't jar as much as it could. For this reason, I don't want a remake. None of the humour, or really even the more subtle elements of the story, would gel really well with the faux-realism style now associated with Final Fantasy VII thanks to the Compilation.
cj_iwakura
Member
For me it's when
Rufus dies.
Or if you believe Advent Children,
'escapes with his life before the building blew up'
itzknickknac
Member
I dont remember atm as there are so many. But I gota confess, there was a time I played in the basement of my cousins house, my lil bro (at the time was like 2 y.o) fell down the stairs and there was.. continuing to play FF7..
it ain't the best memory of FF7, but it'll always be there
For example?
I'm not disagreeing (yet!) but this seems to be a common sentiment and I personally don't understand what moments wouldn't translate well in an updated remake
save for crashing the highwind into WEAPONS repeatedly
evil solrac v3.0
Member
I have beaten the game 9 Times, each time logging in 200 hours, don't know why I guess I would try different things all the time.
and I still have the original non-greatest hits disc with all the manuals. and for the longest time I had the Versus books FFVII strategy guide.
I used that thing until it was dust. like others have mentioned stepping out of Midgard for the first was a revelation. but my favorite part was climbing the mountains to the North crater. simply an awesome area, loved icicle inn and Dr. Gast videos and Ilfana's explanation of what Jenova really was. I might even buy a PS1 just to play the game.
and I still have the original non-greatest hits disc with all the manuals. and for the longest time I had the Versus books FFVII strategy guide.
I used that thing until it was dust. like others have mentioned stepping out of Midgard for the first was a revelation. but my favorite part was climbing the mountains to the North crater. simply an awesome area, loved icicle inn and Dr. Gast videos and Ilfana's explanation of what Jenova really was. I might even buy a PS1 just to play the game.
I'm actually in the middle of replaying the game. Funny I played and beat this game at least 10 times but every single time i did it, i always used the same party, cloud, barret and red XIII. This time around ive decided to use TIfa and Cid.
Anyway, there were a lot of favorite moments; I loved the satisfaction of of the chocobo breeding. However the first time I saw this, I was pretty stoked.
Anyway, there were a lot of favorite moments; I loved the satisfaction of of the chocobo breeding. However the first time I saw this, I was pretty stoked.
Ahh... so they simply pieced together every magnificent FMV and called it a trailer... huge spoiler lol