Yeah. I think the thread assumes that the person can't tell, however rare.I've seen so few instances where I wouldn't be able to tell immediately anyway.
Yeah. I think the thread assumes that the person can't tell, however rare.
I'll just fix that typo for ya bro
This is a heavy subject to talk about, it should be the first thing said "Hi my name was Bill, but its now Elizabeth. Wanna go out for a few drinks?"
No, they have a right to privacy just like everybody else.
It would be like you'd walk up and introduce yourself with "Hi I'm Amakusa I used to be suicidal and cut my wrists but I'm much better now!". Certain topics are very sensitive for a person and are something you only want to talk to with people who you're close to (or getting close to). I don't get this expectation why a transgendered must share something so personal to him/her with anyone at the drop of a hat.
I've seen so few instances where I wouldn't be able to tell immediately anyway.
Both.
Transgender, without question. Personally I think it's deceptive for a 'penis-possessing person' to be dressed up as a woman and not disclose that information to someone who's obviously interested (assuming this person is convinced that 'she' has a vagina). I have no idea how/when that would be brought up, though.
Transsexual, yes. But this is a little more complicated and I know some people disagree. This should be the question in the OP because I think it's the only one that would actually get a variety of opinions.
If you're including transgender folk in this, can you explain how this would be at all practical?
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I was just thinking that I have only seen one or two obviously TG people in my life.How could you possibly even know that?
without question.
Well, a person could be a man (sex) thinking of transitioning to female (gender) and dating a woman (or a woman (sex) thinking of transitioning to male. As I interpreted the question the issue is that the person does not know their partner is transgender, whether that refers to a post-op transsexual or a person who hasn't even gone through HRT.
So the question is, in my view at what point is disclosure required? My answer is when a relationship is about to become long term. Obviously if a person is living as the gender they're transitioning to already but are pre-op if they DON'T disclose their transitioning prior to sexual activity it will likely bring up some... awkward questions but then I took that as understood.
so the person they're with doesn't get a huge surprise waiting for him later on?
I'm sorta ignorant when it comes to post-op, but wouldn't you still be able to pretty clearly tell on your own if it ever got to the point of sex?
Why do you assume you have any surprise coming? Until you're getting into my pants, you don't need to know, because it does not matter. Disclosure only needs to happen when it needs to happen, I don't need the drama and bigotry coming from every random guy who thinks he has a shot knowing that I'm trans.
I'm sorta ignorant when it comes to post-op, but wouldn't you still be able to pretty clearly tell on your own if it ever got to the point of sex?
so the person they're with doesn't get a huge surprise waiting for him later on?
How could you possibly even know that?
Oh I don't know, maybe I explained my opinion in my very first post in this thread so I didn't expect that I'd have to explain it every single time afterwards.
you mistook the context I put that post under. I'm assuming the relationship has already reached long term status and not just some random dude you're going on a date with.
I feel people should be honest with one another in general, but a lot of people aren't for a whole slew of reasons anyway, so keeping a transgendered history a secret is not huge unless they are looking to pursue a long-term relationship and don't want it to be a huge thing to explain later.
I mean, I feel it eventually should happen, but if people are just casually dating? Eh.
Just like medical, drug, sex, financial, ideological, and other pertinent history should eventually be disclosed to their partner if it gets serious, but it's not a right-away thing.
no because i like funny tv shows like the IT crowd
I may take some criticism on this but I believe someone should tell me they were once a man. I also would not date or have sex with someone who use to be a man. And I say this with the up-most respect to the transgender community.
my opinion as well. i consider myself to be pretty liberal, but I don't think i get over the fact that my girlfriend used to have a penis and uses surgery for the boobs (i hate fake boobs).
I may take some criticism on this but I believe someone should tell me they were once a man. I also would not date or have sex with someone who use to be a man. And I say this with the up-most respect to the transgender community.
Are you talking about transgender (birth genitalia, hormone therapy) or transsexual (genitalia altering surgery)?
I would want to know either way, but if he or she is transgender it seems kind of ridiculous not to tell because they haven't had any surgery.
Didn't even know there was a difference. I guess both then. Thanks for the clarification btw.
I've seen porn with a post-OP transgender woman and the vagina thing looked horrible. I still get nightmares about it, it was my Vietnam.
I guess if I couldn't tell, and I wasn't informed until after making out with another guy, I'd be a little upset.
...except what Billychu said is wrong.
Transgender means anyone in wich the gender is diferent from their birth sex.
Transsexual is a transgender who wants to change their body to fit their sex.
So a non surgery person who uses hormones IS a transexual
Sorry!