I believe it mainly because I've drawn the same conclusion based on what I learned about the hardware.
I always believe that, mostly because the only argument against that is "But it's Nintendo (and they hate technology or something)".
I believe it mainly because I've drawn the same conclusion based on what I learned about the hardware.
this isn't pleasing enough for you?:
I mean we all want more, but that's not something to scoff at.
That description is interpretive. Do you consider Xbox 1's best games to blow PS2's games "out of the water?"
I don't.
then you should be a happy camper from now on!XBox vs PS2 (2.5-3x power difference) was always the best case imo. :/ Well, maybe Wii vs. Vita was the best case...
Oh jesus, you're expecting my fragile mind to remember everything in these threads?! Let me think......are we talking about mixed hardware, as in the shaders + TEV 2.0/Magic Lighting Tech (I know it might not be exactly that) scenario?
I always believe that, mostly because the only argument against that is "But it's Nintendo (and they hate technology or something)".
But games that do take advantage of the Wii U's hardware are going to blow this current gen out of the water.
SPEAKING OF WHICH THIS IS INFORMED SPECULATION BASED ON WHAT I HAVE HEARD DEVELOPERS TALKING ABOUT LATELY
DO NOT TAKE THIS AS FACT AND DO NOT START CHICKEN LITTLEING BECAUSE OF THIS POST. EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD IS 100% ACCURATE, THERE COULD BE REASONS IT WILL NOT HOLD TRUE FOREVER.
I'll say that you should not expect the moon with the Wii U.
Everything I have been told is "best of the current generation by a country mile but not significantly beyond that."
It is the XBox to the PS2. The Gamegear to the Gameboy. The Mad Men Alison Brie to Community's Alison Brie. It'll look better, but generational transition probably won't apply to it.
On the plus side, there will probably be nothing hardware-wise stopping downgraded ports from what people think the new XBox will offer. We're talking, like, Witcher 2 on high settings vs. Witcher 2 on low settings. Same game, same basic idea, different graphics.
But games that do take advantage of the Wii U's hardware are going to blow this current gen out of the water. I am not sure we'll see that at E3 (seriously, think back to nearly every console's launch, most of those titles don't stand up today), but I'm sure we'll see it eventually.
Billychu's Power Requirement Checklist:
[x]Powerful enough to run multiplatform games
Yay! It's filled out!
That description is interpretive. Do you consider Xbox 1's best games to blow PS2's games "out of the water?"
I don't.
It honestly sounds like the PS3 of this generation, except stronger
He's my roommate.Did Reggie check that box for you?
I guess we will all enjoy those two or three third party games.
No one pays attention to this thread, which is why I can dump tidbits here.
Except that Konami thing. Man, that got me in trouble.
XBox vs PS2 (2.5-3x power difference) was always the best case imo. :/ Well, maybe Wii vs. Vita was the best case...
If by 2010 you mean on-par with a 5870, that was never realistic at any point.
what was that about again? something to do with mega man legends 3?
This was what I generally expected. Thanks for sharing this. Now, I noticed that you said, EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD IS 100% ACCURATE, THERE COULD BE REASONS IT WILL NOT HOLD TRUE FOREVER. With the way you phrased that, is it safe to assume that there is a possibility that the Wii U may perform better than you and other think? I'm asking that because I don't think the Wii U could get weaker as time goes on.SPEAKING OF WHICH THIS IS INFORMED SPECULATION BASED ON WHAT I HAVE HEARD DEVELOPERS TALKING ABOUT LATELY
DO NOT TAKE THIS AS FACT AND DO NOT START CHICKEN LITTLEING BECAUSE OF THIS POST. EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD IS 100% ACCURATE, THERE COULD BE REASONS IT WILL NOT HOLD TRUE FOREVER.
I'll say that you should not expect the moon with the Wii U.
Everything I have been told is "best of the current generation by a country mile but not significantly beyond that."
It is the XBox to the PS2. The Gamegear to the Gameboy. The Mad Men Alison Brie to Community's Alison Brie. It'll look better, but generational transition probably won't apply to it.
On the plus side, there will probably be nothing hardware-wise stopping downgraded ports from what people think the new XBox will offer. We're talking, like, Witcher 2 on high settings vs. Witcher 2 on low settings. Same game, same basic idea, different graphics.
But games that do take advantage of the Wii U's hardware are going to blow this current gen out of the water. I am not sure we'll see that at E3 (seriously, think back to nearly every console's launch, most of those titles don't stand up today), but I'm sure we'll see it eventually.
This was what I generally expected. Thanks for sharing this. Now, I noticed that you said, EVEN IF EVERYTHING I HAVE HEARD IS 100% ACCURATE, THERE COULD BE REASONS IT WILL NOT HOLD TRUE FOREVER. With the way you phrased that, is it safe to assume that there is a possibility that the Wii U may perform better than you and other think? I'm asking that because I don't think the Wii U could get weaker as time goes on.
I'm more than fine about the console's power if ShockingAlberto's complete lies are the outright truth.
Nintendo games....with that power....in HD.....with a promising gimmick....not completely lost when the other next generation systems hit....
(was already) Sold.
I don't understand technical mumbo jumbo, but someone told me that more middleware being applied could loosen stress on the processor or something like that.
Oh yes.
I wonder if it'll come with proper connection cables. I remember reading about how the PS3 didn't come with HDMI cables, and had to laaaugh. If it doesn't come with HDMI, I hope that we can at least order them in time for Launch Day.
Oh yes.
I wonder if it'll come with proper connection cables. I remember reading about how the PS3 didn't come with HDMI cables, and had to laaaugh. If it doesn't come with HDMI, I hope that we can at least order them in time for Launch Day.
So Wii U as next-gen's Dreamcast is a pipe dream, huh? That's what I was hoping for.
What's a 5870?
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I just want a Nintendo system that impresses Morgan Webb.
You could order them now if you want..
So Wii U as next-gen's Dreamcast is a pipe dream, huh? That's what I was hoping for.
The XBox was a crazy beast if used right. But it was just an analogy, it wasn't meant to be a proper comparison of power.
Dreamcast to N64 might be a better comparison?
Oh yes.
I wonder if it'll come with proper connection cables. I remember reading about how the PS3 didn't come with HDMI cables, and had to laaaugh. If it doesn't come with HDMI, I hope that we can at least order them in time for Launch Day.
I don't understand technical mumbo jumbo, but someone told me that more middleware being applied could loosen stress on the processor or something like that.
AMD's high-end 2010 GPU.
And nothing Nintendo does will impress Morgan Webb.
I bet is a low(er) clocked OoO CPU. Code highly optimized for 360's (and Ps3) inflexible CPU might have some problems running without significant retooling. But the CPU will still be significant stronger.So the CPU sucks :/
I don't understand technical mumbo jumbo, but someone told me that more middleware being applied could loosen stress on the processor or something like that.
I would guess Konami's main issue is that they did not want people knowing that Kojima does not answer to them. That has financial ramifications. If the market demands a new Metal Gear Solid from Kojima and he does not want to do it, then they'll look weak and investor confidence could tank.
I'm expecting 90% of all third-party games to look like mid-level PS360 titles. Which is good enough for my tastes, personally, but I can already hear the mockery from the peanut gallery with their dainty, delicate, Bambi-like eyes.
You could order them now if you want..
Huh? What do you mean? I thought the cable would be propietary?
Me too.
By a 2010 I meant the kind of console Microsoft would release in November, 2010.
Oh yes.
I wonder if it'll come with proper connection cables. I remember reading about how the PS3 didn't come with HDMI cables, and had to laaaugh. If it doesn't come with HDMI, I hope that we can at least order them in time for Launch Day.
I'm so jealousHe's my roommate.
I don't understand technical mumbo jumbo, but someone told me that more middleware being applied could loosen stress on the processor or something like that.
You said you wanted the WiiU to be this gen's dreamcast, he made that exact comparison.I'll admit to not understanding that comparison. I didn't follow as to what console is supposed to be which in that scenario.
I've said it before but the pip-boy being the controller is genius.Damn it. As long as Fallout 4 is on a Nintendo console then I'm content with just owning a Wii U next gen.
I'm so jealous
I've said it before but the pip-boy being the controller is genius.
It's HDMI...
You said you wanted the WiiU to be this gen's dreamcast, he made that exact comparison.