Actually, mapping the controls like this person has would not be enough to finish the game. The sword also tracks to wiimote position even when you are not attacking which is something need for some puzzles.
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Skyward Sword with an Xbox 360 Controller
- Thread starter IrrelevantNotch
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Actually, mapping the controls like this person has would not be enough to finish the game. The sword also tracks to wiimote position even when you are not attacking which is something need for some puzzles.
TheCongressman1
Member
I might as well join in and say that almost every complaint I have about this game has nothing to do with the controls. Aside from the 'jab' being a bit stubborn, they worked for me fine.
I thought I saw him do that in the video.
I thought I saw him do that in the video.
TheNatural
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Or just mod out all the spirit trials and other collection quests in the game and make a director's cut of it, getting rid of all that crap.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
The problem with the motion controls in SS is the fact they're counter-intuitive. The game needs you to slowly move the sword around so that it can follow your movements, and when you try a quick slash like you really would with a sword, more often than not the game freaks out and doesn't register what you're doing correctly.
Can you adjust and do it the way the game wants you to? Sure.
Is that fun? Satisfying? Does it enhance the experience? Is it superior to a traditional controller? Absolutely not.
There are other fatal flaws with the game that made me stop playing, some real terrible design choices, but that was the worst of all. Every single combat scenario was painful.
Can you adjust and do it the way the game wants you to? Sure.
Is that fun? Satisfying? Does it enhance the experience? Is it superior to a traditional controller? Absolutely not.
There are other fatal flaws with the game that made me stop playing, some real terrible design choices, but that was the worst of all. Every single combat scenario was painful.
WrenchNinja
Member
Because it's completely pointless and makes no sense in the context of the game. And I don't like the swimming controls.
IrrelevantNotch
Banned
hey man, quit taking your anger out on such an awesome game because you suck so much!
Seriously, this thread turned toxic within the first couple posts. Something about Zelda just brings out the venom in some people.
SS isn't my favorite Zelda, but the hyperbole in here is disappointing.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Great post, would read again.
TheCongressman1
Member
This is a good point. However, as far as it making the game painful, I would not agree.
I do wish they would have went with how the sword control was originally designed: Exactly like the sword fighting in Wii Sports Resort, 1:1 tracking. This would have allowed the player to have complete control over the sword, rather than selecting an angle and initiating the swipe.
It is a save with EVERYTHING maxed out ... some people consider showing itens in zelda spoilerific =P
MuddyDonut
Member
5/10 Your enthusiasm is lacking and forgot to rate.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
If you can accept the fact you need to control the sword in a way that is completely unlike handling a sword then yeah, it's not awful, but I personally found it infuriating. Every time I moved the sword I had to think about it, because my natural reaction would confuse the technology. The idea of having total control of a sword in a Zelda game is great, but it just isn't possible with current tech
Edit: Well, maybe it is, but not the way in which they did it in this game. I can't remember what sword fighting was like in Wii Sports Resort, nor have I used a Move.
TheCongressman1
Member
Yeah, it is possible. Like you said, not the way they did it in this game. They didn't actually use 1:1 control for the swipes, just the slower movement.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
Yeah it's 3am here and my brain is a bit fuzzy! I realised you gave one example in the post I quoted, hence the edit!
I played WSR when it was released but haven't touched it since. All I remember from it is the awesome archery! ^_^
I played WSR when it was released but haven't touched it since. All I remember from it is the awesome archery! ^_^
GregLombardi
Member
The game is amazing in many regards. Anyone calling it perfect is crazy though.
I'm not entirely sure what exactly you were trying to do. When you waggle it, it defaults to pre-determined motions along an 8-way template. It is always effective when you waggle it, because it abandon 1:1 and just does it like a button. Doing a quick slash is the most effective way of doing swordplay in SS. It's what makes it different from Wii Sports Resort.
Not sure what you were doing to make it freak out.
WrenchNinja
Member
Other than rolling, PH and ST controlled well enough.
We were already doing it with the DS Zelda's. The touch controls were the absolute best things about those games.
Been there, done that. I actually love the DS' Zelda control scheme.
TheCongressman1
Member
You should try out the swordplay in it if you get the chance. It's a ton of fun just mowing down Mii's in 'showdown'. They really should have went with complete 1:1 in SS...
Yeah, I was disappointed how they made the SS swordplay to be rigged whenever you made a slash instead of being true 1:1 like in WSR.
Alex
Member
WHY DONT PEOPLE LIKE WHAT I LIKE
But seriously, I didn't have any control qualms outside of the flying, my issues mainly revolved around the game having every flaw of twilight princess and not a single boon of twilight princess.
TheCongressman1
Member
Maybe next time... They seem to be pretty set on using motion for Zelda in the future so, hopefully full 1:1.
nincompoop
Banned
Sweet, I was wondering when someone would try shoehorning shitty joystick controls into Skyward Sword via Dolphin. The results were just as hilarious as I expected.
civilstrife
Member
Why take away the only thing that Skyward Sword has going for it?
brandonh83
Banned
yeah, it's not perfect but I have a hard time thinking of many games that are. Also surprised to see so much hate for the game in here. it had a couple of annoyances but... wow.
Controls weren't even that bad save for the thrust move. :\
Only after the harp is parsed from existence.
Only after the harp is parsed from existence.
radioheadrule83
Banned
"I personally don't own a Wii nor do i like. But this game is awesome ya feel me? lol"
There's no way this guy bought the game
There's no way this guy bought the game
Criminal Upper
Banned
One of the most ridiculous statements I've ever heard on GAF. At least add "IMO" for christ's sake.
It's really awkward doing it with a two handed controller like that though, since the range of movement from your wrists is much smaller.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Skyward Sword wasn't a terrible game but once I beat it I traded it back into Gamestop because I just never see myself playing it again like I would with past Zeldas. I hated the fact that you have to sit up most of the time to play it correctly which sucks for me because I like to game after a long day at work and lay down.
LumpOfCole
Member
The only problem I had with Skyward Sword's controls were flying and especially swimming. I liked the motion controls with the swordplay.
Combat doesn't involve controlling the character?
Some people just don't like motion controls. Sucks for them, I say.
I can understand why SS is so polarizing though. It's simultaneously an enormous departure from older zelda games but still retains a lot of the core fundamentals. So it's easy to hate it on multiple levels! It does too many things different and too many things are unchanged! And gamers today have been so conditioned to whiz bang instant reward games where you have explosion after explosion and nonstop action for 10 hrs. SS is a 45hr nuanced epic that is an unbelievably fantastic ride overall but doesn't really travel at the breakneck speed a lot of people have grown accustomed to. It's also as much of a puzzle game as it is an action game, which again, many gamers aren't really interested in. Most would rather just point and shoot.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Whoaaaa, I really want that. Motion controls were one of the main reasons I couldn't get into Skyward Sword. :-(
I prefer the explanation of my superior genetics, but I suppose my narrow mindedness is another possibility.
Criminal Upper
Banned
I find it staggeringly unbelievable people have problems with 1:1 sword slashing controls, so I assumed you meant the nunchuck analog stick was vexing you.
I apologize.
Silver_DNA
Member
With a 360 controller it'll finally feel like I'm holding a sword in my hand!
nincompoop
Banned
I'm not sure if you're purposely being obtuse or what, but you have much less control over the character in combat using a joystick than you do with motion controls (as the video in the OP reiterates.) You would need 3 joysticks just to replicate the amount of control you have with motion plus.
Cause without the IMO, it's not in his opinion.
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GitarooMan
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Having just started Skyward Sword (about 6 hours in) I have to say I'd prefer this. For me, the motion controls to me are a bit boring and cumbersome, they don't really add to the enjoyment of the game.
So an analog stick would basically have to somehow give negative control? I would swing left, Link would go right. I'd stab, he'd slash. I'd slash, he'd slowly move his arm. An analog stick is objectively an improvement.