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[DrForester]

http://collider.com/lou-ferrigno-interview-the-hulk-the-avengers-nycc/53682/

I had no clue that Lou did Hulks voice in this film. All the more awesome.

 

[The Technomancer]

Agreed. Kinda reminded me of Doctor Who- it's all daft sci-fi, and takes itself seriously for the most part, but it's still littered with one-liners and humour.

It knows its place.

The entire scene where they're all meeting on the airship and the funny comments are just coming rapid fire was awesome.

 

[Fry]

Yeah. And then Steve just wanted to pound the fuck out of the guy was great. He was all "Please put on the suit. Please. I wish you would put on the suit, Tony."

And then the explosion happens, and he asks him again: 'suit up' And this time he does. That was pretty funny.

 

[Quick]

http://collider.com/lou-ferrigno-interview-the-hulk-the-avengers-nycc/53682/

I had no clue that Lou did Hulks voice in this film. All the more awesome.

He's voiced Hulk for each movie.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

You humans are so petty....and TINY!

 

[FieryBalrog]

From a guy who has very little familiarity with the Avengers, so coming into this with a mostly blank slate.

Pros:

• trademark snappy Whedon dialogue and banter. Got a lot of laughs in the theatre I watched it at.
• Downey Jr, Ruffalo were fantastic. Sam Jackson was decent. Everyone else, meh.
• some of the kinetic action scenes were good, particularly those involving the Hulk.
• great interaction between the cast, especially Captain America & Iron Man.

Cons:

• impossible to take Loki or Thor seriously, they both looked and acted goofy as fuck. Since Loki was the villain, this impacted the movie quite a bit. This isn't a problem so much with the movie as it is with the source material, I guess.
• even more stupid cackling alien villains. Have no idea what's up with these guys or if they're in the comics, but either way, they're straight out of when I was 6 years old in a bad way.
• action scenes go on for too fucking long at the end. Just exhausting, and I don't think Hawkeye, Black Widow and Captain America needed quite that much screen time. They're no where NEAR as exciting as Hulk & Iron Man when it comes to big fighting scenes.

I came away from this mostly wanting to watch a movie where Hulk, Captain America and Iron Man team up to fight villains that aren't as laughably dumb as Loki and his band of intergalactic cackling aliens.

 

[The Technomancer]

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

Cons:

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  [*]impossible to take Loki or Thor seriously, they both looked and acted goofy as fuck. Since Loki was the villain, this impacted the movie quite a bit. This isn't a problem so much with the movie as it is with the source material, I guess.

• 
  
  I had the opposite reaction.

 

[ezekial45]

It just sucks how we're never gonna see X-Men, Fantastic Four, or Spider-Man in any of The Avengers sequels.

I'd LOOOOOOOVE to see Wolverine pop up, even in a cameo scene.

 

[Manmademan]

Yeah. And then Steve just wanted to pound the fuck out of the guy was great. He was all "Please put on the suit. Please. I wish you would put on the suit, Tony."

Yeah, Rogers is confident (cocky?) as hell, and has never backed down from a fight above his weight class. Part of what makes the character appealing.

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

This one is a bit more subtle. Loki NEEDS the invasion to work, or he's in for a world of pain at the very least if he doesn't deliver the cube to the Chitauri/Thanos. The Avengers are standing in the way of that succeeding.
He needs them out of the way not only so the invasion has no resistance, but also because he needs to use Stark Tower to set up the portal.

Loki is more or less on his own, and CAN'T stop them with brute force, so gets himself captured. It's established (in Thor, i think?) that he does have the ability to manipulate human behavior to an extent, and his plan is to:

1.) manipulate banner into losing it, turning into the hulk and taking out Thor/Iron man
2.) use hawkeye and his team to knock out the helicarrier and mop up everyone else.

between 1 and 2, the avengers will be in no shape to work as a unit and stop the invasion.

 

[Affeinvasion]

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

You mean at the beginning? or the end?

 

[The Technomancer]

It just sucks how we're never gonna see X-Men, Fantastic Four, or Spider-Man in any of The Avengers sequels.

I'd LOOOOOOOVE to see Wolverine pop up, even in a cameo scene.

Eh, if they just made cameos then to me that inherently limits the level of the threats they can use, since if Spiderman, the FF and the X-Men all do exist it would make no sense for them to sit on the sidelines while the entire earth (or even a major city) was threatened.

Letting Hulk loose on the helicarrier.

I know that was his objective, but how did him being there have any effect on it?

 

[jordan0386]

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

Get Hulk to do the dirty work for him. Because his magic wand causes friends to argue.

 

[entremet]

Just came from a 3D showing, great flick. Solid B.

Who was the draped figure who talked to Loki throughout the film?

 

[Shrennin]

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

He was trying to bring discord between the group culminating in Banner's transformation into the Hulk.

 

[ReiGun]

It just sucks how we're never gonna see X-Men, Fantastic Four, or Spider-Man in any of The Avengers sequels.

I'd LOOOOOOOVE to see Wolverine pop up, even in a cameo scene.

Meh. There's more than a few characters I'd rather see get the big screen treatment before a bunch of guys we've already seen.

 

[Quick]

http://collider.com/lou-ferrigno-interview-the-hulk-the-avengers-nycc/53682/

I had no clue that Lou did Hulks voice in this film. All the more awesome.

He's voiced Hulk for each movie.

Adding this in:

Ferrigno: I think he’s a great actor. I think he’s a great choice. My only problem is that they keep changing (the actor playing The Hulk’s alter-ego) David Banner. I don’t know the situation with Eric Bana because maybe he had a one-picture deal, but I think Mark (Ruffalo) is a wonderful actor and I think he’ll be, he’ll be a great David Banner.

Come on, Lou!

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

He wanted to create a ruckus by unleashing the Hulk. Notice when he was being led to his cell, they passed by Bruce's lab, and he looked at him with a smile. Bruce then massages his eyes as a vague hint that Loki's gotten to him. And also cause friction within the group.

Loki also wanted to stir shit and attract attention because that's his thing. Tony explains that bit about having people kneel before him as practice, and fucking with the Helicarrier as "opening night."

 

[Dreams-Visions]

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

He knew that they would take the staff without understanding its powers and ability to affect the mind of people in its proximity. He knew that staff would drive them into conflict, as evidenced by Banner holding the staff without even realizing he had grabbed it. He wanted to destroy the Avengers from the inside out by getting them to turn on one another, then destroying Shield HQ so that there would be nothing that could stop him.

It was close to working.

 

[FieryBalrog]

Loki as a villain should have been all about mental manipulation, illusion, trickery, and deceit. They sort of got it with the scene where (I think) he uses the scepter to make them all argue heatedly with each other.

I'm thinking more of the Loki from the Ultimate Avengers comic series, which was wayyyy more fun with the way Loki and Thor were handled.

Not this dolt wearing his goofy looking horns and armor, cackling to everyone about how they're all his slaves. It was a villain straight out of like 1960's era Kirby & Lee comics.

 

[Aselith]

I still don't quite get what Loki was aiming to accomplish by getting himself captured.

He was trying to manipulate them to break up the team. You didn't notice that his staff was making them act considerably less neighborly? It had a field that heightened negative emotion is what I got from that.

 

[3phemeral]

I really liked that as well. I loved how he just held there, waiting for the hammer to come to him, and you heard it clank and clunk around as it was coming to him, and just the close-up on his face before the WHAM. Great direction.



Disagree with those two. Best Widow was the opening scene with the chair or her talk with Loki. Best Iron Man was Jonah and the Whale...or pretty much every snarky comment he made the entire movie.

Although she didn't kick ass per se, I think they did an excellent job showing her ability to think quick with her Hulk scene.

 

[Big Baybee]

Best Thor moment was: "He's Adopted"

 

[The Technomancer]

He knew that they would take the staff without understanding its powers and ability to affect the mind of people in its proximity. He wanted to destroy the Avengers from the inside out by getting them to turn on one another, then destroying Shield HQ so that there would be nothing that could stop him.

It was close to working.

Okay, this explanation makes sense to me. Everyone else has been saying that his goal was to sow dissent and unleash Hulk but I was never clear on how exactly him getting captured furthered that goal. The staff thing makes sense.

 

[Good Job Bob]

You humans are so petty....and TINY!

I loved that line, got a big laugh from the crowd.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Meh. There's more than a few characters I'd rather see get the big screen treatment before a bunch of guys we've already seen.

Certainly. We still haven't even had all the Avengers on screen yet. We need Pym, we need van Dyne, we need T'Challa... oh, I want that Jessica Jones series idea to die, because I want to see Ms Danvers on the big screen pronto.

 

[Affeinvasion]

Although she didn't kick ass per se, I think they did an excellent job showing her ability to think quick with her Hulk scene.

The shot of her in shock and then snapping out of it because of her sense of duty was a pretty great small touch.

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

It would have been so much more badass if he just stood there in the middle and let it smash into the ground exploding into a crater and then he just walks out.

Yea, I kind of still don't understand how Thor basically can't get hurt? I mean he's effectively a God and if Hulk goes at him hard enough he can bleed. But stuff like, for example, Iron Man grinding his face on a cliff side, sticks out to me. Like not even a scratch? It's just off putting because I'm so used to Superman having that kind of indestructibleness. So yea, a scene like that didn't have as much play with me as intended.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

He knew that they would take the staff without understanding its powers and ability to affect the mind of people in its proximity. He knew that staff would drive them into conflict, as evidenced by Banner holding the staff without even realizing he had grabbed it. He wanted to destroy the Avengers from the inside out by getting them to turn on one another, then destroying Shield HQ so that there would be nothing that could stop him.

It was close to working.

The wife loved that as it reminded here of Iago a lot.

 

[antonz]

Adding this in:



Come on, Lou!



He wanted to create a ruckus by unleashing the Hulk. Notice when he was being led to his cell, they passed by Bruce's lab, and he looked at him with a smile. Bruce then massages his eyes as a vague hint that Loki's gotten to him. And also cause friction within the group.

Loki also wanted to stir shit and attract attention because that's his thing. Tony explains that bit about having people kneel before him as practice, and fucking with the Helicarrier as "opening night."

Lou is kinda right and kinda wrong. David Bruce Banner was the TV Character. He has used David Banner in the comics as an alias I guess to try and tie that togeather too

 

[KevinCow]

I liked how the Galaga copyright actually popped up in the credits, and it said Nameco instead of Namco.

 

[BigJonsson]

I read Thanos Quest and the first 3 Infinity Gauntlet books today........good shit

 

[Affeinvasion]

The wife loved that as it reminded here of Iago a lot.

I assume you're talking about the villain from Othello and not the Disney parrot.

I applaud you for raising the level of this conversation, sir.

 

[Manmademan]

Yea, I kind of still don't understand how Thor basically can't get hurt? I mean he's effectively a God and if Hulk goes at him hard enough he can bleed. But stuff like, for example, Iron Man grinding his face on a cliff side, sticks out to me. Like not even a scratch? It's just off putting because I'm so used to Superman having that kind of indestructibleness. So yea, a scene like that didn't have as much play with me as intended.

Comic Thor is ludicrously durable- arguably more so than superman (Thor has no weaknesses like magic, Kryptonite, or lack of solar energy). Early Thor used to set off nukes point blank just to "test his strength."

Basically as a God his strength and durability are innate and magical, and he'll just shrug off "conventional" damage.

 

[ZoddGutts]

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[BigJonsson]

Adult image hosting eh

 

[LProtag]

I did feel the whole scene with Stark redeeming his early snobbish behavior with everyone by finally making the 'sacrifice play' that Cap said he wouldn't was kinda diminished by the fact that while it was all happening I knew a movie called IM3 was coming out in the future so therefore there was little to no risk to the character.

Oh well.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

I assume you're talking about the villain from Othello and not the Disney parrot.

I applaud you for raising the level of this conversation, sir.

Correct and thank you.

 

[Good Job Bob]

I did feel the whole scene with Stark redeeming his early snobbish behavior with everyone by finally making the 'sacrifice play' that Cap said he wouldn't was kinda diminished by the fact that while it was all happening I knew a movie called IM3 was coming out in the future so therefore there was little to no risk to the character.

Oh well.

They aren't going to be killing off any of the main heroes --- let alone the biggest one.

 

[Radec]

No thanks

Who is that ?

 

[Manmademan]

I did feel the whole scene with Stark redeeming his early snobbish behavior with everyone by finally making the 'sacrifice play' that Cap said he wouldn't was kinda diminished by the fact that while it was all happening I knew a movie called IM3 was coming out in the future so therefore there was little to no risk to the character.

Oh well.

These characters are all established marvel characters going back to the 1960s or earlier (Cap). None of them are in any danger of permanent death, ever.

Who is that ?

That was the Molecule Man. Read Secret Wars II to get some background on him- that scene really shouldn't have happened, but at one point he was the most powerful individual in the marvel universe not named "the beyonder."

 

[artist]

Adult image hosting eh

No kids allowed on GAF.

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[WanderingWind]

Comic Thor is ludicrously durable- arguably more so than superman (Thor has no weaknesses like magic, Kryptonite, or lack of solar energy). Early Thor used to set off nukes point blank just to "test his strength."

Basically as a God his strength and durability are innate and magical, and he'll just shrug off "conventional" damage.

And if he "dies" he basically just goes on unpaid leave.

 

[overcast]

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OH SHIT.

Watched Avengers last night with my girlfriend. We both loved it. Absolutely great comic movie. So damn entertaining. Every character was nailed. Hulk was amazing, some great humor throughout, and that brilliant climax. Both of us left wanting to beat up baddies. Haven't felt like that since I was a kid (pretty corny).

Don't know how great Avengers 2 will be though. Despite Thanos being awesome, I felt like this movie packed a lot of hype and fun with just seeing all these characters together.

 

[LProtag]

My point was, theoretically in the cinema universe you could kill one off. Chances are they would come back, but you could do it.

 

[Affeinvasion]

You could easily kill off Captain America (as they have a few times in the comics) and do the whole replace him with somebody else because as a symbol Cap is too important to let die. Clint Barton was actually really good with Cap's shield and almost accepted the role before Bucky took over as Captain America.

 

[suracity]

I did feel the whole scene with Stark redeeming his early snobbish behavior with everyone by finally making the 'sacrifice play' that Cap said he wouldn't was kinda diminished by the fact that while it was all happening I knew a movie called IM3 was coming out in the future so therefore there was little to no risk to the character.

Oh well.

But his "last" call to pepper really got me, especially when Jarvis voice fades out because of lack of power and the image of pepper with a line of "Call Failed". And after running out of power Tony watched the nuke hit the base then he closed his eyes.

 

[Manmademan]

My point was, theoretically in the cinema universe you could kill one off. Chances are they would come back, but you could do it.

Disney/Marvel won't ever allow permanent death to a major character. Even in the unlikely event Tony Stark dies, it's just a matter of time before he's brought back via a plot device, or the franchise is rebooted making the death meaningless.

It's not necessarily a bad thing- comic fans have learned to live with it, as have long running cinema franchises like James Bond.

You could easily kill off Captain America (as they have a few times in the comics) and do the whole replace him with somebody else because as a symbol Cap is too important to let die. Clint Barton was actually really good with Cap's shield and almost accepted the role before Bucky took over as Captain America.

Cap didn't "die", he was hit by a "time bullet" that...you know what? i'm going to leave this one alone.

 

[DrForester]

I did feel the whole scene with Stark redeeming his early snobbish behavior with everyone by finally making the 'sacrifice play' that Cap said he wouldn't was kinda diminished by the fact that while it was all happening I knew a movie called IM3 was coming out in the future so therefore there was little to no risk to the character.

Oh well.

Even without Iron Man 3, I knew he'd be save. The Mark VII armor had the magic "My movie made more than everyone else s" inhibitor. He's the series poster boy as far as the studio goes. It showed in the movie, but thankfully he didn't steal the show, or drown out the others.

 

[LProtag]

I know where everyone's coming from, I just feel like those really poignant scenes where someone is risking their life don't fully work when you know from a meta perspective that their is in fact no risk to what they're doing.

 

[demosthenes]

So anyone else think that Avengers 3 will be the Civil War story line or something along those lines? Seems a lot of that was getting setup in 1.