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PlayStation Mobile powers a fan-made tech demo of remote play Left 4 Dead on Vita
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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DO WANT AS WELL.
-MikePriester-
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Whoa - now that's impressive!
jimmythepage
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And then you want to know how much money the Sony engineers earned for their imbarassing efforts for the remoteplay.
Takamura-San
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Interesting.
First thing I thought of ... a properly running Skyrim on a Sony platform albeit via Remote Play to the PC
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Paid millions for Gaikai, dev does it for free.
Speedymanic
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That's impressive, but why it does look he's not actually playing? The actions on the screen don't seem to match those he's making.
maybe it's just lag or something on my end, but it looks a little off.
maybe it's just lag or something on my end, but it looks a little off.
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Deleted member 80556
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This looks interesting! Is it possible that this leads to an exploit?
No, Mobile runs in a very contained environment.
No. This is just a Playstation Mobile program running on Vita (and a corresponding server on PC of course).
digitalarts001 is Dave Perry. shymalan.jpg.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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It might, but I don't think so. In fact, there is no need for exploit since Sony openly offered Playstation Mobile to create apps, which is more than enough for me really.
jimmythepage
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Exploit?
This is just videostreaming with some input control, and it's totally legal.
Has no control over the system OS, PSmobile applications are heavily nerfed to prevent any kind of hack.
It's already amazing this guy pulled this thing to work with those limitations.
Could be a funny meme
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Sony should hire the shit outta this guy and maximize this for "RemotePlay Plus" or some shit.
What's really impressive is that it looks virtually lag-less. I wonder about the legal ramifications of such an app though. It would benefit both Sony and Valve (I don't play PC games, but you can bet I'd start if I could stream them to my Vita). However... I imagine digitalarts001 would need to charge for this to put it on the store, and that might cause legal issues.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Can't you download apps via Playstation Mobile for free? I hope he puts it up with a nice and friendly interface and everyone can test it.
Only during the beta. Once that's over the only people that would be able to use it would be people who pay the $100 or whatever it is to be a developer. Unless Sony decide to allow it on the store.
I think you can, but I think that (so far) applies to the development environment. I was thinking about getting this app on PSN.
Canis lupus
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Sony needs to release such a standalone app in the Store. Its huge, its what the Vita is for.
I don't see there being an issue with this either.
The question I have is whether the dev can turn it into a polished product. There's probably a tonne of corner cases to cover in order to have a solution that works as is with games/software in general. You can see at the start of the clip that he has to do some stuff on his PC even just for this one special case.
SplashTop etc. have trouble getting things 100%, so I dunno...but maybe it doesn't have to be perfect to be marketable.
DO WANT AS HELL
And Valve can't be mad. Potentially more people buying their games and using their service.
This has potential..
But will probably amount to nothing.
Okay, I watched the SMB3 demo, and if you can be that precise, then I imagine the lag is pretty minimal
I'm just trying not to get my hopes up.
I'm just trying not to get my hopes up.
jimmythepage
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Afterall on iOS there are plenty that do remote stuff with desktops\laptops so it's really a non issue.
Sony pls
Sony pls
Lag shouldn't be a large issue with this. You only need a relatively low resolution encoding for Vita (by PC standards) which a high-end PC should be able to handle very quickly (single-digit milliseconds). Then you send it over local WLAN, which should be <20ms with good reception. Decoding is also <1 frame for certain. In total the input lag certainly won't match a fast monitor, but it could be as good or better than your average LCD TV.
This has the potential to be pretty big for PC games. Keep your PC in your bedroom/study/whatever, stream whatever games play on it to any network-enabled screen in the house. And you don't have to be always online to do it (games permitting).
You could do this on Vita, or set-top boxes, or anything else like tablets that let you hook a controller up to it. Comfy couch gaming without lugging your PC to the living room, or having to rely on laggy, blurry, consumer-unfriendly cloud gaming bullshit. With Steam Big Picture or XBMC, you could run a gaming HTPC and be able to switch screens as the need arises.
I love it.
You could do this on Vita, or set-top boxes, or anything else like tablets that let you hook a controller up to it. Comfy couch gaming without lugging your PC to the living room, or having to rely on laggy, blurry, consumer-unfriendly cloud gaming bullshit. With Steam Big Picture or XBMC, you could run a gaming HTPC and be able to switch screens as the need arises.
I love it.
It's not so hard. I mean it's a nice piece of engineering, especially when you want to minimize delays, but not an unsolved problem by any means.
One well-known way is intercepting the DirectX calls to present a frame. You can then download the framebuffer and encode it. It's what FRAPS does when it records a video.
Callibretto
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Vita current remoteplay is old pspversion of remoteplay. The real vita remoteplay is coming, don't know when though.
Hunter-Zero
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I think that shouldn´t be any problem in the distribution of something like this, it´s just a vnc-like software, you connect to your own pc, i guess that it has some kind of usb controller input emulation where you map the controls and the touchscreen act as a mouse
OmegaTreeFish
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ever since I pratted about on skyrim on my iPhone using splashtop and saw it was playable (not perfect) ive wanted this kind of thing. On my vita would be perfect with the controls being built in.
Hmm. When I asked about content guidelines on the Mobile forums, the Sony guy did say this when asked about emulators:
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/General/Sony-s-quality-assurance-uncertainty/td-p/16325857
Hopefully that means a secondary executable on the Vita itself, and not executables on remote hardware...
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/General/Sony-s-quality-assurance-uncertainty/td-p/16325857
Hopefully that means a secondary executable on the Vita itself, and not executables on remote hardware...
Would this be classed as an emulator though? The games are running on the PC, after all.
Not as an emulator, but depending on how broad your definition is, possible 'something which runs a secondary executable.'. But maybe - hopefully - he means a secondary exec on the Vita itself.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Too bad it'll be restricted to PS3 only. I would love to have Steam games playable via Vita.
What will really blow my mind? Remoteplay Audio chat. digitalarts001, your move!
BlazingDarkness
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Will this be released? I mean, it's perfectly legal right? He's just streaming games he owns through the Vita via his PC