See, Nolan totally called back TDK! :jnc"WHERE IS THE DETONATOR!!"
OMG my theater was ROLLING. Holy shit, hilarious
See, Nolan totally called back TDK! :jnc"WHERE IS THE DETONATOR!!"
OMG my theater was ROLLING. Holy shit, hilarious
I disagree. This was a sequel to both movies. One of Bane's motivations was how he wanted to destroy everything Bats and Jim worked to create at the end of TDKR. It tied everything back to both movies.
Also, how did TDK act like BB didn't happen? It talks about all the changes throughout the year since Bats showed up. It talked about everything Bruce and Rachel went through. Shit it starts out tying up loose ends with Scarecrow.
I believe it was a different Bat. The technicians mention that the auto pilot was fixed by a software patch, so all the models would have it or something.
The entire conceit of the movie was about the value of a lie that begets good - re: Harvey Dent.Yes. The thing is, it feels really forced.
Where TDK was initially jarring because it acted like BB never happened, this movie is all the more jarring because it tries very desperately to tie it all back into BB while barely mentioning TDK.
It was like fan-service for the sake of it, like what fan would have outlined back in 2005 how a sequel could go.
Some highlights for me were Batman saying "So that's how that feels" when Catwoman left him.
Talia's reveal.
JGL being Robin.
Every scene with Bane.
Crane's Cameo was hilarious.
Ras' cameo.
Hathaway's overall performance (I had faith).
Batman getting his back broken Knightfall style.
Seeing the Batcave.
Also, seeing Bruce in the Batman costume minus the mask is always cool to me.
Soooooo good.
Also, Alfred talking to the Wayne's tombs was a friggin tear jerker.
I really loved the movie, I think it may be the best of the trilogy.
Just curious but for those who were disappointed did you prefer TDK or BB? For those who enjoyed it did you prefer BB or TDK?
Just curious but for those who were disappointed did you prefer TDK or BB? For those who enjoyed it did you prefer BB or TDK?
- Two things that I felt really "un-Nolan like" is Ra's Al Ghul's fading out (as if to confirm the audience that he is just an illusion) and Bruce's appearance with Selina at the end (as if the confirm that yes, Bruce is alive). Really thought that the scene would be more powerful with just Alfred smiling or some other subtle notes.
Great movie, I enjoyed it.
but how did he have it even in the first place? How was the Bat not completely destroyed by the nuke going off not 20 feet from it?
and Bruce's appearance with Selina at the end (as if the confirm that yes, Bruce is alive). Really thought that the scene would be more powerful with just Alfred smiling or some other subtle notes.
Just curious but for those who were disappointed did you prefer TDK or BB? For those who enjoyed it did you prefer BB or TDK?
I wouldn't call myself disappointed, but I think TDK is tighter and BB is the best overall movie. That said, I think ranking is a pointless exercise. Each movie shines for a particular reason.Just curious but for those who were disappointed did you prefer TDK or BB? For those who enjoyed it did you prefer BB or TDK?
They did, but the way they do it doesn't feel... natural and the way they crowbar Begins back into existence doesn't either. I'd try to articulate my feelings more, but I'm not sure how to. The impact of the callbacks to TDK feel pretty forced and... fan-fictiony.
The way Bane gets the "truth about Harvey Dent" is because... Gordon writes a letter about the "truth behind Harvey Dent." It struck me as lazy. Alfred brings up Rachel's letter in a sort of cheesy way, although Caine almost sells it.
There's implications there, but it's like they take the easy way out of exploring it, every single time.
That first Bane/Batman fight sequence may be the best scene in the trilogy.
This movie hits some real lows, but it's got some real highs, too.
Just curious but for those who were disappointed did you prefer TDK or BB? For those who enjoyed it did you prefer BB or TDK?
I've both disappointed AND enjoyed it. If I were to give it a grade, it'd be a B-
and I prefer TDK to BB
But it completely ignores Ra's and the League of Shadows, the Narrows, the toxin, the monorail, etc., acting like that stuff never even happened.
Then all the sudden, we're back to referencing Ra's and the League of Shadows all the fucking time. Even Alfred is able to look up shit on them by wiki-ing Bane.
... I can't be the only one who feels like this.
Man that would have been awesome but maybe too spinning top?
In this age, who do we not know about? He was a high ranking mercenary with a fable attached to his name... which happened to be false. Not that far-fetched. Look up Kona or some shit.That Alfred monologue was RIDICULOUS. Dropping shit about how he was trained by Ras. How you know dat, Pennyworf?
One thing I love about this movie is it really defined what makes Batman, Batman. Even when he's physically broke and financially broke, he never gives up. People joke that Batman's superpower is money but this movie showed his will. He truly hit rock bottom and climbed his way out. When he said something along the lines of "I'm watching Bane torture my city" and it struck me that Bale was
really channeling his inner Batman.
TDK>BB>>TDKR
No.Man that would have been awesome but maybe too spinning top?
Whoa, I couldnt have disagreed more. Both of these were great IMO, in fact I when Gordon figured out Batman = Bruce, I was pretty emotional. I got the same chills when Rachel figures out Batman = Bruce in BB, but on a 10x level more because of the situation.There were dialogues that were so contrived and out-of-character that I was sort of taken out of it. ..
Alfred's revelation of Rachel's letter
Gordon figuring out Batman = Bruce
It was a trap.Or where Batman stands on the bridge, then skips to Catwoman's "don't be shy," where they take out what seems like three thugs, and are immediately in Bane's lair. I mean, Jesus, that was easy.
1. Bane explains this when he breaks down the tumbler into the sewers.I have just 2 gripes.
1. How Bane knows Batman is Mr. Wayne
2. Catwoman was standing RIGHT THERE when Bane said Mr. Wayne but when Bruce comes back to Gotham Catwoman asks him, "can you bring your friend to do this?". didnt she already know?
To hear "break you" and know what was coming was such an incredible high. Extremely well done scene.
It was a prototype model, I think they said.
Also, reading through this thread, I cannot believe that people clap at movies. Have some restraint!
She was being sarcasticI have just 2 gripes.
1. How Bane knows Batman is Mr. Wayne
2. Catwoman was standing RIGHT THERE when Bane said Mr. Wayne but when Bruce comes back to Gotham Catwoman asks him, "can you bring your friend to do this?". didnt she already know?
I have just 2 gripes.
1. How Bane knows Batman is Mr. Wayne
2. Catwoman was standing RIGHT THERE when Bane said Mr. Wayne but when Bruce comes back to Gotham Catwoman asks him, "can you bring your friend to do this?". didnt she already know?
I love Nolan did the Break the Bat scene. It was just like in the comics. I didn't think he had it in him
I have just 2 gripes.
1. How Bane knows Batman is Mr. Wayne
2. Catwoman was standing RIGHT THERE when Bane said Mr. Wayne but when Bruce comes back to Gotham Catwoman asks him, "can you bring your friend to do this?". didnt she already know?
I love Nolan did the Break the Bat scene. It was just like in the comics. I didn't think he had it in him
"WHERE IS THE DETONATOR!!"
OMG my theater was ROLLING. Holy shit, hilarious
1. How Bane knows Batman is Mr. Wayne
2. Catwoman was standing RIGHT THERE when Bane said Mr. Wayne but when Bruce comes back to Gotham Catwoman asks him, "can you bring your friend to do this?". didnt she already know?
I love Nolan did the Break the Bat scene. It was just like in the comics. I didn't think he had it in him
Whoa, I couldnt have disagreed more. Both of these were great IMO, in fact I when Gordon figured out Batman = Bruce, I was pretty emotional. I got the same chills when Rachel figures out Batman = Bruce in BB, but on a 10x level more because of the situation.
It was a trap.
I think people (including me) need to rewatch before we can rank the trilogy more accurately cause a lot of the complaints floating around right now were probably addressed.
With all the callbacks to the previous films, I would of liked a tip of the hat to The Joker just to cover it all.
As an example, when Bruce is in the jail watching the television reports about Gotham being held captive by Bane and getting pissed off, I would of liked a contrasting scene where we see the entrance to Arkham Asylum and cut to a figure in a chair from the back, never seeing his face, but watching the same TV feed and laughing.
Pull a sound clip of Ledger from TDK and dub it in or really sell the depths of The Joker's insanity over the eight year gap with an iconic Hamill cackle.
All in all a good flick.
Couple of options here, but it makes the most sense that he knows through Talia, since the League of Shadows knows his identity.1. How Bane knows Batman is Mr. Wayne
She was being caustic.2. Catwoman was standing RIGHT THERE when Bane said Mr. Wayne but when Bruce comes back to Gotham Catwoman asks him, "can you bring your friend to do this?". didnt she already know?
I've known about the spoilers for this movie for ages. Some of these things were addressed, but it's the execution of them (even the valid ones), that's lacking.