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Once Upon A Time |OT| Happy Endings Gone Forever More

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Incendiary

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ErasureAcer said:
But what about the clock turning to 8:15 at the end? I think he resummoned the curse. When David looked up at the clock to leave it was 11 something AM...few minutes later magic cloud rolls in and it's 8:15. I agree knowing who they are takes a lot out of the show that's also why I think they're cursed again. Hopefully it doesn't effect Henry, Emma, August(if he's still alive). Gold and Regina won't be effected either.
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If they're cursed again that's terrible. They could have kept everyone cursed without having to do a reset button and breaking the curse initially. I noticed it went back to 8:15...but it ticked forward like it did when Emma initially came to the town. So time isn't frozen again.
 
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Arment

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ErasureAcer said:
But what about the clock turning to 8:15 at the end? I think he resummoned the curse. When David looked up at the clock to leave it was 11 something AM...few minutes later magic cloud rolls in and it's 8:15. I agree knowing who they are takes a lot out of the show that's also why I think they're cursed again. Hopefully it doesn't effect Henry, Emma, August(if he's still alive). Gold and Regina won't be effected either.
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I checked and it was 7:03 a.m. when he was leaving. Time has been unfrozen in the town ever since Emma came back. Before, it was stuck, which is why everyone is the same age.

The clock will either be stuck again - right at 8:15 a.m. or it was just a Lost easter egg. Perhaps the curse that stops time and separates their town from the world is back.

I still think everyone will remember, however. Or I hope. I don't want to go back to everyone forgetting :-/
 
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MoonsaultSlayer

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No August closure was sort of a downer. And Belle/Rump remembering was such a fizzle. No sparks.

Yeah, I believe the folks will remember next season, but magic will play the same role it did in fantasy land.
We still need to find Bae too.
 
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Arment

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MoonsaultSlayer said:
No August closure was sort of a downer. And Belle/Rump remembering was such a fizzle. No sparks.

Yeah, I believe the folks will remember next season, but magic will play the same role it did in fantasy land.
We still need to find Bae too.
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I thought so too. Rumple isn't very expressive. It's an odd pairing indeed.
 
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DrEvil

not a medical professional
My guess is the smoke has transformed Storeybrook back into the old kingdom, and we'll get a season back in magic land, instead of 'modern day'.

Also, when Charming said 'snow' instead of 'mary', and when she said 'you found me' -- it seemed like all their 'modern' memories were gone...
 
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Ripclawe

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I am hoping there is magic in the real world but its unpredictable for anyone using it. Maybe some back and forth from this world to fairy land for a couple of episodes.
 
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Raistlin

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You know ... I was starting to get annoyed by how much they've been dragging out Emma believing in the curse.

I stand corrected. The payoff was well worth it. The reveal scene was awesomesauce ... as was the episode as a whole. Great season finale.






DrEvil said:
Also, when Charming said 'snow' instead of 'mary', and when she said 'you found me' -- it seemed like all their 'modern' memories were gone...
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Pretty sure that's not the case. Otherwise everyone would be absolutely freaking out since they'd be in a completely foreign land, without their abilities, etc.

If anything, I took the scene to mean Snow was wondering if she was going crazy since she suddenly had those 'new' memories. Once she heard Charming call her Snow though ... she new it was all real.
 
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SuperPac

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I think Rumple was returning magic to Storybrooke but I don't think we're going back to Fairytale Land full-time for a while (yet). He doesn't have Bae back, Bae's in the "real" world somewhere, so he's going to want to stay there and keep that part of the curse active at least until they're reunited.

There are plenty of stories to deal with now that people know who they are — they haven't returned to their old forms (Mother Superior hadn't, at least - we didn't get to see Archie or August), so there's that. Not that many of the folks in FTL could wield magic anyway—Gold, Regina, Mother Superior...is that it? Plus magic has "unpredictable" results here in the real world. The story has plenty of places to go next season. Very curious to see how things progress.

Really liked the finale overall - I don't follow any other hour-long dramas but I was pretty happy with the resolution to this part of the story. Glad they didn't drag out the people-not-knowing-who-they-are portion of this. That would have been really tiresome.

It was a little surprising they went right into Emma touching the book and believing everything one minute, then the next she's down a huge mine shaft with a sword, fighting a dragon. Seemed a bit much to squeeze into like 5 minutes of the finale. All it took was Henry being knocked out of commission and her grabbing the book? Hrmn. I did like Regina's "would you like a tour or can we get on with it?" line inside the 'library.' (Hilarious—I guess no one ever went to the library? Reminded me of The Simpsons episode where Apu reveals a hidden door in the Quick-E-Mart's non-alcoholic beer section.)
 
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Larson Conway

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Just watched the finale ep.

I can't believe they actually just went there.

I thought breaking the curse would span at least three seasons and it wouldn't feel dragged out.

Instead, they're taking on a game-changer this early on the series' life span.

Real world magic season 2 here we go!!!
 
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RepairmanJack

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Arment said:
They could definitely keep it in modern times. There's still a lot of back story to cover. We don't know who Dr. Whale is still.
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I was wondering this the entire episode. Especially at the end where he was sitting down and looked to be deep in thought.

Incendiary said:
The fairy tale characters knowing who they are in the real world takes a lot of the "magic" out of the show to me, so to speak. I don't think the magic cloud is a reset button (hoping it isn't a reset button, at any rate) so I'm wondering how they're going to balance the real world and the "flashbacks" to the fairy tale world. I think next season is going to probably be about relearning magic and figuring out why they didn't return to fairy tale world and are still in Storybrooke.
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They will know who they are, but I doubt everyone will know who everyone is. I'm thinking some, like Mad Hatter, may want to hide who they are. There is a still a lot of back story and people to introduce.

ErasureAcer said:
But what about the clock turning to 8:15 at the end? I think he resummoned the curse. When David looked up at the clock to leave it was 11 something AM...few minutes later magic cloud rolls in and it's 8:15. I agree knowing who they are takes a lot out of the show that's also why I think they're cursed again. Hopefully it doesn't effect Henry, Emma, August(if he's still alive). Gold and Regina won't be effected either.
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I don't think it reverted. I'm not really sure why they put that in there, because it seemed pretty obvious he didn't reinstate the curse(it was said the curse was hard to do and required a great sacrifice like the queens dad) so all I can think is to show some kind of symmetry? Like them saying the return of magic is a curse in itself? Not sure.


I liked the finale a lot, was really surprised Emma learned the truth so fast and broke the curse. They really could have drug that out a little longer and it wouldn't have bothered me too much. But I'm glad they didn't. Magic in the real world will be very interesting. Does this mean Sidney goes back to being the mirror, or is he free of it now? With magic what will Regina do to keep Henry? Really a lot of things they can do with this.
 
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

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Best episode of the entire show. I guess since magic is returning, will it go back to fantasy telling and rid of the real world stuff? Hmmm. I hope anyway, the show is the best at the fantasy part.
 
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Inanna

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ErasureAcer said:
But what about the clock turning to 8:15 at the end? I think he resummoned the curse. When David looked up at the clock to leave it was 11 something AM...few minutes later magic cloud rolls in and it's 8:15. I agree knowing who they are takes a lot out of the show that's also why I think they're cursed again. Hopefully it doesn't effect Henry, Emma, August(if he's still alive). Gold and Regina won't be effected either.
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It was 7 am not 11.

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SuperPac

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RPGCrazied said:
Best episode of the entire show. I guess since magic is returning, will it go back to fantasy telling and rid of the real world stuff? Hmmm. I hope anyway, the show is the best at the fantasy part.
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I kind of doubt it. Now everyone knows who they were and there's magic but they're still all in the "real world" - I didn't see any indication in the finale that they were returning to Fairytale Land. Rumple was just bringing magic to the land without it.
 
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Maffis

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Wow, stunning finale. I was actually wondering how they would set the story up for another season, but it looks like they did it well.

Also, surprisingly well done CGI there with the battle with Malicifent.
 
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LoneTraveler

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Great finale. I love the feel of this show so much.

I wonder what other, if any, fairy tale characters they can introduce next season.

I guess they could introduce The Little Mermaid and Rapunzel
 
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RepairmanJack

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LoneTraveler said:
Great finale. I love the feel of this show so much.

I wonder what other, if any, fairy tale characters they can introduce next season.

I guess they could introduce The Little Mermaid and Rapunzel
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Still have the rest of Alice in wonderland too. There is a lot they can still do, the interesting thing will be how they tie it in on the fairy tale side.
 
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Ohwiseone

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LoneTraveler said:
Great finale. I love the feel of this show so much.

I wonder what other, if any, fairy tale characters they can introduce next season.

I guess they could introduce The Little Mermaid and Rapunzel
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There was an interview a few weeks ago, writers said they were going to Introduce both of them as well as Peter Pan, and maybe even Jasmine.


This show could have a big issue of having too many characters however.
 
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VICTORsaurio

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I just read the finale was watched by 9.45 million people in the USA.

WOW! I knew the show was a hit but I didn't have a clue that many people watched it. Hope they keep it around for a few more seasons and they get a deal like the LOST producers did, knowing in advance how many seasons they have left so they can plan this whole thing.

I would hate to see the show get canceled and not getting a proper ending.
 
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HP_Wuvcraft

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victormartin said:
I just read the finale was watched by 9.45 million people in the USA.
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I have no idea what good ratings are anymore. They vary from network to network. SyFy and the CW consider one million viewers great, when that would get a show canned faster than The Flash can run on other networks. Lost consistently pulled in 10+ million.
 
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Incendiary

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Ohwiseone said:
This show could have a big issue of having too many characters however.
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I don't think every character needs to be central to the plot, though. You can easily have one-off stories for each fairy tale character, like they did for Cinderella, Grumpy, and Red Riding Hood this season. I'd even include Mad Hatter in that but I think he's going to be important to be main story, especially if magic returns to the town.
 
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Medalion

Banned
The finale was just ok in my book

Everything was wrapped up a little too easily and conveniently for my tastes

Emma's belief just suddenly happening cuz of Henry's sleep spell, her fight with Malefecent Dragon, so antithetical... this should've been a two parter

Charming escaping the Dungeon, wound up in the Infinite Forest, Rumplestiltskin masterminding everything, true love conquers all bullshit. He gets Belle back

Emma's kiss saves the day predictably... True Love potion summons Magic from the Fairy Tale world to flood the real world so now Rumplestiltskin can be powerful again, as can Regina (cuz of her evil smile), and everybody has their Fairy Tale memories again

Why the hell was no one going, WTF is this world, why do you look like that? Nitpicking I guess, but I am curious how this stuff will be resolved in season 2
 
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HP_Wuvcraft

Banned
Okay.

Well.

Emma has touched the book before, so I have no idea why it gave her memories now. That was... completely weird. All of the bad writing in this show is frustrating because it could have easily been avoided with either foreshadowing or a bit of clever misdirection. But instead it seems like it is written on the fly... which, from the Paley Panel, and from the fact that the producers of Lost can't do a different show, is pretty much apparent.

Seriously, this show is so Lost it's not even funny. Even Emma's 180 on the Fairy Tales is pure Jack's sixth season 180 on Magic.

Which sucks, because this show had some amazing episodes, and some amazing concepts (Red Riding Hood being the Big Bad Wolf, Dwarves as a slave race, Rumplestilskin as Beast, all magic having some sort of karmic turn-around). It just tries way too fucking hard to be different, sort of like "well, yeah, we do cool stuff, but we can do even COOLER stuff!" (Dwarves born from eggs, Prince Charming is actually his twin brother, Snow White had her memory erased).

The real story of this episode was the Fairy Tale World. I love how they continue to flesh out how the world works, and exactly how big it is.

Robert Carlyle. I've loved him since Ravenous. He was amazing in Stargate Universe. But as Rumplestilskin, he's fucking phenomenal.

"Well it's storming like a bitch" was a great line. Perfect juxtaposition against the fairy tale flowerism that was spouted right before.

Emma talking to August about finally believing was pretty good, too; it showcased the level of fucked up that believing actually entailed.

The Mines wraparound finally happened. Was very happy about that. Also, I'm glad they explained why the Mines were there instead of having it be some BS thing that was never explained. Great to see yet another Pure Disney Form Character, too.

Both Maleficent fights were great.

If this were the episode after Emma found out, it might have had the chance of being less sucky. It really did. This show really has an awesome theme.

Everyone waking up was great. I love how Charming literally stopped his car. I also really liked how they gave Regina a chance to run. In fact, all of the final ten minutes were what the entire season should have been.

5/10?
 
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Arment

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HP_Wuvcraft said:
Emma has touched the book before, so I have no idea why it gave her memories now. That was... completely weird. All of the bad writing in this show is frustrating because it could have easily been avoided with either foreshadowing or a bit of clever misdirection. But instead it seems like it is written on the fly... which, from the Paley Panel, and from the fact that the producers of Lost can't do a different show, is pretty much apparent.
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If you recall Emma wasn't able to see Pinocchio's wooden extremities because she wasn't in the right frame of mind. Touching the book after she's accepted her roll in the 'story' was the catalyst, not merely touching it just one more time.

HP_Wuvcraft said:
Seriously, this show is so Lost it's not even funny. Even Emma's 180 on the Fairy Tales is pure Jack's sixth season 180 on Magic.
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It is so Lost. That's why it's amazing. They struck gold on capturing that feeling Lost gives you every night it came on.

HP_Wuvcraft said:
Which sucks, because this show had some amazing episodes, and some amazing concepts (Red Riding Hood being the Big Bad Wolf, Dwarves as a slave race, Rumplestilskin as Beast, all magic having some sort of karmic turn-around). It just tries way too fucking hard to be different, sort of like "well, yeah, we do cool stuff, but we can do even COOLER stuff!" (Dwarves born from eggs, Prince Charming is actually his twin brother, Snow White had her memory erased).
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Why does it suck? People can't be stubborn and change their minds? If some guy was telling you his leg was wooden right now, but you only saw flesh, you'd think he was mental. Emma believing is not the same as Jack believing. Jack had a damn smoke monster chasing him and he still had problems believing anything. Emma is a normal person and she reacted the way ANYONE would have reacted.

HP_Wuvcraft said:
5/10?
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8/10 imo. There's room for improvement. They need to shrink the next season to 16 or so episodes so there's less filler.
 
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Choppasmith

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ivysaur12 said:
They just cast Sleeping Beauty and Mulan. Take that as you will for potential storyline ideas.
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What? So they ARE going full Disney with this concept? I always thought it was originally meant to be an ambiguous and neutral take on Fairy Tales that just happened to be associated with Disney (and threw in Maleficent just for kicks)

Interesting. Sister loves the show, I'm kinda "meh" on it though I admit there's some cool stuff here.
 
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VICTORsaurio

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Choppasmith said:
What? So they ARE going full Disney with this concept? I always thought it was originally meant to be an ambiguous and neutral take on Fairy Tales that just happened to be associated with Disney (and threw in Maleficent just for kicks)

Interesting. Sister loves the show, I'm kinda "meh" on it though I admit there's some cool stuff here.
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I don't understand your point, Mulan isn't an original story by Disney
 
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HP_Wuvcraft

Banned
Trying to get into the panel at SDCC, but I highly doubt it's happening.

Choppasmith said:
What? So they ARE going full Disney with this concept? I always thought it was originally meant to be an ambiguous and neutral take on Fairy Tales that just happened to be associated with Disney (and threw in Maleficent just for kicks).
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Have you watched the show at all?

The entire Beauty and the Beast episode.
The names of the seven Dwarves.
Wonderland.
Jiminy Cricket.
Monstro and Maleficent's designs.
 
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Napoleonthechimp

Member
You've got to keep it confined to some degree or else any largely mythical story is free game and then you'll lose the tone of the show. Even Mulan is a bit off for this show in my opinion.

Was Rumplestiltskin in a Disney movie?
 
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Choppasmith

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victormartin said:
I don't understand your point, Mulan isn't an original story by Disney
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Well I remember hearing that Mulan was actually based off a Chinese story, but the name was actually coined by Disney. Either way, the name invokes Disney more than "Classic Fairy Tales"

HP_Wuvcraft said:
Trying to get into the panel at SDCC, but I highly doubt it's happening.



Have you watched the show at all?

The entire Beauty and the Beast episode.
The names of the seven Dwarves.
Wonderland.
Jiminy Cricket.
Monstro and Maleficent's designs.
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Okay, I missed the names of the Dwarves and Maleficent (like I said, I've been kinda "meh" on this show), aside from seeing her as a dragon, but I'm not seeing the "obvious Disney connection" with Wonderland or Pinocchio.

Still, the thought crossed my mind that it IS almost like they making a Live Action Kingdom Hearts with a more realistic and Tim Burton Alice in Wonderland-like twist to it.
 
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VICTORsaurio

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The official twitter account tweeted this video which includes all the opening titles from season one and some from season 2:

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looks like Jack and the Beanstalk, Mulan and Sleeping Beauty

EDIT:
Captain Hook
also confirmed for season 2!!! (SNEAK PEEK)

Also, here's a very funny video (IS
THE SMOKING HOT SHERIFF
COMING BACK?)
 
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Medalion

Banned
I can't believe this series got a blu-ray release... way to go for em. But I dunno if I can be brave enough to buy it hah

Still look forward to season 2 though
 
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ErasureAcer

Banned
So is HD considered Blu-Ray quality? It's $25 on iTunes and Amazon Instant Video in HD.

I love the show but dunno if I'd watch it numerous times over and thus no need to buy it. I can wait til the series is over for it to hit Netflix.
 
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aett

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Medalion said:
I wonder what the bare minimum ratings a show needs to get to gurantee a blu-ray release these days are
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Pretty sure that if a show doesn't get canceled mid-season, it'll get a BR release. And even then, it'll get a BR if the fanbase is strong enough.
 
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