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Let's talk about "creepshots"

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G-Fex

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H.Pro, while I agree that yoga pants do have benefits, why do so many yoga pants/spandex pants have words plastered over the ass or a different pattern over the ass? Just yesterday I saw a woman wearing yoga pants that were solid black except the ass was zebra print.

Why do that if not to call attention to that area?

Okay there's certain clothes women buy

For example I see some customers wearing yogapants that have writing on the ass with 'Sexy' or something there.
 
H.Pro, while I agree that yoga pants do have benefits, why do so many yoga pants/spandex pants have words plastered over the ass or a different pattern over the ass? Just yesterday I saw a woman wearing yoga pants that were solid black except the ass was zebra print.

Why do that if not to call attention to that area?

The fur pattern on Zebras distorts their outlines so it's confusing for some predators.

Same thing.
(j/k)
 

Malvolio

Member
Any sort of crusade against this just gives the creeps a bigger thrill. Best to just acknowledge that creepers are going to creep and know that anyone, anywhere, wearing anything can end up with their picture on the internet with some devious intent behind it.

I personally find it just as distasteful as the people of Walmart photos or any other random photo taken with the intent to post it in a public space with derision being the end goal, but rarely do you see a heated debate about how acceptable that practice is or should be. As usual, once sex is added to the equation it changes people's perceptions dramatically. That says a lot about our society.
 

B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
WTF is wrong with some of you?

People should be able to exercise self-control and control themselves in a civilized society. Just because someone is walking around in just their underwear and nothing else doesn't mean it is justified to sexually assault them. Just as if you found someone's bag abandoned in a park, does not mean it is okay to help yourself to it's contents. You don't gorge yourself on sweets and become a fat piece of shit just because you can. If you can't exercise self-control, you don't really deserve to live with other people.

It's called being civilized and living in harmony with other people despite any differences you may have. Buncha God damned monkeys playing "rape-apologist" in this thread.


As for the issue of whether or not you are allowed some semblance of privacy when out in public; I'm of the opinion that taking pictures is fair game with the caveat that the images should have the faces of anyone who didn't consent to the image blurred out once they are shared publicly. We certainly have the technology to do this and it's the one aspect of this phenomenon that is easier to enforce than broadly making taking pictures in public a crime.
 

FStop7

Banned
Look, rapers will rape, thieves will steal, murderers will kill. I don't expect them to wear a burkah, I don't expect a woman to wear one of those vagina dick traps, I don't expect you to have your wallet or purse chained to you, it's impractical. What I do expect is basic personal care. If you don't want people looking at your butt, don't flaunt it. If you don't want people seeing how rich you are, don't flaunt it, if you don't people want to kill you, don't where crip colors in blood territory. What is wrong with taking care of yourself? I'm not putting the blame on the victim. I'm not GOING to put blame on the victim, but making yourself vulnerable creates an opening for someone to take advantage of it.

What's so hard to understand?

So if I go out to dinner in a $120,000 car wearing a $5,000 watch do I deserve to be robbed?
 

itxaka

Defeatist
I think is ok. The public space is public so if people want to take pics of me or someone else to masturbate and share Im ok with it.
 

turnbuckle

Member
Nah I'm just playing the victim while he pretends that creepy shit done by handsome fellows is acceptable.

I'm not defending Dennis, but I think it's generally more often the case for both sexes that we find attention and flattery from the opposite sex to be a positive when that person is more attractive and/or charismatic than not. That doesn't mean attractive, charismatic people can't be creepy or threatening nor does it mean less attractive, socially awkward people can't come off as more endearing. I've been guilty of being weirded out by attention from females before that, all else being equal, I probably would've been less bothered or maybe even pleased if I found them more attractive. And make no mistake, the people who take these kind of photographs are creepy as fuck. A person who just stares at women/men in public with the only intent of just being there to stare is also creepy too.

Anywho, I think people of both sexes can admit to wearing things in public that will make them feel more attractive. This isn't always the case - usually there's a balance between form and function that goes on; somedays where one will try to look even more attractive than normal, others where not a single fuck is given and they'll go around in sweats. But even accepting that generally people like to look good, and generally people like (no attention/positive attention) over (no attention/negative attention), it's usually because they like the way it makes them feel about themselves more than they like being ogled by other people. People arguing that it's less creepy to take these photos because "they want the attention anyways or they wouldn't dress like that" are not farm from victim blaming.

That said, nobody has the right to be not looked at or not ogled at or generally to be not photographed in public. Every right to be creeped out, and those that find these kind of pictures hot have every right to be turned on by them.

And, well, a lot of these pictures are hot. Can't help feeling that way and don't care if that's weird. If I want to think about the context the pictures were taken in I can easily be bothered by it, but I tend to not do so much thinking when looking at a picture of an attractive woman. Of course, assuming that we're not talking about some illegal type stuff (rape, underaged photos, or peephole or in private stuff like the Erin Andrews video) that's obviously beyond the pale.

But someone takes a picture of a woman in a bikini at the beach? :jacknicholsan.gif

BTW, I know I'm not telling you specifically anything you don't already know Dev. Just wanted to throw my opinion in the mix. I'm not disregarding your specific instances of creeps creeping out on you at all and mean no disrespect.

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Also, I'm wearing a bright orange Tigers shirt that has some cat hair on the shoulder that's been a pain to get off since I don't have a roller and Dark Blue gym shorts. I think I can safely say nobody will be taking candid shots of me today.
 

Kinyou

Member
WTF is wrong with some of you?

People should be able to exercise self-control and control themselves in a civilized society. Just because someone is walking around in just their underwear and nothing else doesn't mean it is justified to sexually assault them. Just as if you found someone's bag abandoned in a park, does not mean it is okay to help yourself to it's contents. You don't gorge yourself on sweets and become a fat piece of shit just because you can. If you can't exercise self-control, you don't really deserve to live with other people.

It's called being civilized and living in harmony with other people despite any differences you may have. Buncha God damned monkeys playing "rape-apologist" in this thread.
I don't think anyone here says that secretly taking pictures of women is ok.

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I think is ok. The public space is public so if people want to take pics of me or someone else to masturbate and share Im ok with it.
*cough* *cough* bad timing
 
H.Pro, while I agree that yoga pants do have benefits, why do so many yoga pants/spandex pants have words plastered over the ass or a different pattern over the ass? Just yesterday I saw a woman wearing yoga pants that were solid black except the ass was zebra print.

Why do that if not to call attention to that area?

Well, my yoga pants are black and dark gray, but I have seen this sometimes. Personally I think it's part marketing tactic on the part of clothing manufacturers. Think about where companies tend to have their logos plastered on your clothes. For guys, logos seem prominent in the chest area (or back), and for women the chest and quite often the butt. They're placed where they will get the most notice, so in part I'd say it's a rather clever marketing scheme. Another part may be that some women also do like being noticed either 1) for the brand, or 2) for their assets. I would in no way claim that all women are wearing yoga pants for the same reasons I am, but in turn that does not mean that all women are wearing them for attention. And, women aren't necessarily seeking the attention of guys, either.

The answer then (for those women who wear those bum-highlighting pants) is probably initially a mix of brand selection, comfort and 'attention' (though this is not so narrowly focused or as sinister as some guys make it sound). The funny thing also is that even if you start wearing something because you feel confident or think you look good in it, eventually that thing becomes nothing more than a pair of comfy pants. You don't put them on every morning thinking "I shall attract some male gazes today!" but more "these are nice and comfy and won't ride my crotch all day." Sorry, guys. Even if you are or were once a factor in wearing something, you're usually not first in importance or even third sometimes.


The fur pattern on Zebras distorts their outlines so it's confusing for some predators.

Same thing.
(j/k)

I laughed. :)
 
WTF is wrong with some of you?

People should be able to exercise self-control and control themselves in a civilized society. Just because someone is walking around in just their underwear and nothing else doesn't mean it is justified to sexually assault them. Just as if you found someone's bag abandoned in a park, does not mean it is okay to help yourself to it's contents. You don't gorge yourself on sweets and become a fat piece of shit just because you can. If you can't exercise self-control, you don't really deserve to live with other people.

Whoa there
 

depths20XX

Member
I like it when women snap pictures of my butt in public and oggle me. It's why I always wear jeans that accentuate that area.
 

FStop7

Banned
There is this ongoing trend on GAF regarding a mindset that some people have that everything a woman does revolves around them. They dress a certain way for you. They owe you a conversation. It's... weird.

Not everything everyone does is about you. The world doesn't revolve around you. Accept it.
 

BobLoblaw

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No way I could ever do something like this. I'd lose the moral high ground and I like being able to look down on creeps and perverts. Besides, I have sisters and I'd be fucking mad as hell if I ever caught some guy doing this to one of them.
 

BadAss2961

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RBMyU.png
This is the layout of one of my gyms. What in the fuck?
Its a Retro Fitness. I've been to one of those. Its the 80's in there.
 

B!TCH

how are you, B!TCH? How is your day going, B!ITCH?
I don't think anyone here says that secretly taking pictures of women is ok.

Then I'm happy to inform you, that's not what that part of my post was responding to.

That was specifically in response to the notion being put forward by certain posters in this thread that if someone dresses provocatively then any negative attention they receive in the form of physical harm is "deserved."
 
Then I'm happy to inform you, that's not what that part of my post was responding to.

That was specifically in response to the notion being put forward by certain posters in this thread that if someone dresses provocatively then any negative attention they receive in the form of physical harm is "deserved."
Are you sure this happened
 
Does anyone else think it's interesting that the OP also created these threads?

Women bending over in front of you; always intentional?

Have you ever invaded someones privacy without them knowing it? Would you?

Sentry said:
I'm talking about the knees-locked type of bending over, back facing your direction as to get a clear view of their bum Sometimes it's feally in my face or done multiple times in my direction, and other times it's a bit more subtle...

Sentry said:
I can't say i've even done the latter, but tonight i'm lending my room to my sisters friend (who is great looking mid twenties), with the bed being directly in front of my laptop. It would be so easy to record everything overnight.
 

itxaka

Defeatist
I don't think anyone here says that secretly taking pictures of women is ok.

Edit:

*cough* *cough* bad timing

:D

BTW, Im not for "secretly" doing it, Im all about open taking pics. If you like those kind of photos just be a man and take them openly. Some of those are arousing TBH.
 

Stellares

Member
The sheer number of pictures taken of women who aren't wearing yoga pants in that subreddit show how bullshit the "you shouldn't wear those pants" argument.

Its ridiculous how people make excuses for these men. Women shouldn't have to censor themselves to feel safe in public, when men do not.

The other argument, "don't wear clothes if you'd be embarrassed of them online" is equally stupid. Its not about the clothes, its about a candid picture taken by male strangers for sexual gratification. I could be covered head to toe and still be embarrassed if a man uploaded my pic to masturbate to.

I don't personally wear yoga pants, but many women find them comfortable.
Surprisingly, women's lives don't revolve around pleasing men on a daily basis!
 
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Deleted member 1235

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nice job on reposting these.

I knew a guy like this, was a flatmate of friends. One day one of his flatmates was fucking around on his computer and found his creepshots of all their girlfriends as well as his jackoff fotos of himself.

The creep got cancer.
 

BadAss2961

Member
The sheer number of pictures taken of women who aren't wearing yoga pants in that subreddit show how bullshit the "you shouldn't wear those pants" argument.

Its ridiculous how people make excuses for these men. Women shouldn't have to censor themselves to feel safe in public, when men do not.

The other argument, "don't wear clothes if you'd be embarrassed of them online" is equally stupid. Its not about the clothes, its about a candid picture taken by male strangers for sexual gratification. I could be covered head to toe and still be embarrassed if a man uploaded my pic to masturbate to.

I don't personally wear yoga pants, but many women find them comfortable.
Surprisingly, women's lives don't revolve around pleasing men on a daily basis!
You're right, but boys will be boys. That ain't gonna change.
 
nice job on reposting these.

I knew a guy like this, was a flatmate of friends. One day one of his flatmates was fucking around on his computer and found his creepshots of all their girlfriends as well as his jackoff fotos of himself.

The creep got cancer.
From jacking off!?! FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 

Stellares

Member
You're right, but boys will be boys. That ain't gonna change.

With that attitude it won't. If every time someone does something creepy, other people actually made them feel bad about it, maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. What usually happens is people shrug it off and just say "thats what men do!"
 
With that attitude it won't. If every time someone does something creepy, other people actually made them feel bad about it, maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. What usually happens is people shrug it off and just say "thats what men do!"

Usually it's a lack of a sense of shame that leads to voyeurs doing what they do.

That said, reddit should be proactive and stop threads like that.
 

turnbuckle

Member
nice job on reposting these.

I knew a guy like this, was a flatmate of friends. One day one of his flatmates was fucking around on his computer and found his creepshots of all their girlfriends as well as his jackoff fotos of himself.

The creep got cancer.

Your friend found jackoff photos of himself on his flatmate's computer, or photos of his friend jacking off?

Either way, that's fucked.
 

BadAss2961

Member
With that attitude it won't. If every time someone does something creepy, other people actually made them feel bad about it, maybe it wouldn't be such a problem. What usually happens is people shrug it off and just say "thats what men do!"
But it's true... Everybody knows it's wrong, but they do it anyway.
 
I don't personally wear yoga pants, but many women find them comfortable.
Surprisingly, women's lives don't revolve around pleasing men on a daily basis!

The shape of a woman's body is pleasing to men though.. it's unavoidable really.

What isn't unavoidable is men being more respectful of course.. but not sure what it's going to take. More men speaking out about it maybe? More women speaking out?
 

pigeon

Banned
nice job on reposting these.

I knew a guy like this, was a flatmate of friends. One day one of his flatmates was fucking around on his computer and found his creepshots of all their girlfriends as well as his jackoff fotos of himself.

The creep got cancer.

...how did you give him cancer?
 

Stellares

Member
Usually it's a lack of a sense of shame that leads to voyeurs doing what they do.

Every time I've read about a woman being harassed, when she was able to get the courage to yell at/shame the guy, he always turns bright red and sulks off. They do not think that what they do is bad, they assume they have a right to be touch/photograph/assault/harass women.
 

curttard

Banned
Additionally, don't assume that just because someone is wearing a certain piece of clothing in public, that they're doing it for OTHER people's enjoyment. That might be true in some cases, but not all.

What is enjoyable about wearing clothes that look a certain way, but only when other people can see and not when you're alone, that isn't dependent on the effect it has on others?

Sweat pants and yoga pants are not the same. If we're talking functional and comfortable, why are baggy sweat pants any more comfortable or functional?

They're more comfortable because loose is more comfortable than tight, which is why almost everyone wear loose and not tight stuff in private. More functional depends on what you're doing.
 

Trey

Member
You don't think being creepy is wrong? Seriously?

I look at wrong as something that if done should land the perpetrator in jail.

Taking candids of people in public is creepy. Hanging around people awkwardly is creepy. Taking upskirt shots of unaware folks is wrong.

You can be so creepy that it becomes wrong, is what I'm saying. So yes, seriously.
 
I don't take pictures but I definitely check out girls in public.. go out of my way to be behind a girl briefly if I'd like to check out her ass.

My girlfriend does the same thing.. we even have a code saying.. "Hey, do we need dog food?" means "Look where I'm looking"

LOL, I guess we are creepy mofo's.
 

Stellares

Member
I look at wrong as something that if done should land the perpetrator in jail.

Taking candids of people in public is creepy. Hanging around people awkwardly is creepy. Taking upskirt shots of unaware folks is wrong.

You can be so creepy that it becomes wrong, is what I'm saying. So yes, seriously.


Your entire moral compass relies on what is legal or not legal?
So it only becomes immoral or wrong if a law is made against it?
 

jmdajr

Member
nice job on reposting these.

I knew a guy like this, was a flatmate of friends. One day one of his flatmates was fucking around on his computer and found his creepshots of all their girlfriends as well as his jackoff fotos of himself.

The creep got cancer.

God damn. Cancer is gonna claim is shit ton more people.
 
What is enjoyable about wearing clothes that look a certain way, but only when other people can see and not when you're alone, that isn't dependent on the effect it has on others?

Do you not read what you're typing? You're ASSUMING that they're wearing these clothes ONLY to look a "certain way" in front of other people. One good example that was already posted in this thread (by a woman) was riding a bike.

They're more comfortable because loose is more comfortable than tight, which is why almost everyone wear loose and not tight stuff in private. More functional depends on what you're doing.

Again, stop assuming. Speaking anecdotally, my girlfriend wears a mix of really tight clothes and really baggy clothes when she's slumming around the house. She's not "uncomfortable" when she has a tight tanktop and shorts on.

"Snug" fitting clothes, believe it or not, can be more comfortable than baggy clothes.
 
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