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Halo |OT9| One Final Effort Is All That Remains

I had a wedding yesterday (unlimited food and alcohol bar with various wines, mixed drinks and oktoberfest brews= fun), so I had a bit to catch up on.. What I have seen so far seems to be a battle of spoilers vs piracy..

That artwork is awesome, I like it a lot more than the Knights we have. It is a lot more clean, sleek, foreboding and 'forerunner'.. Its too bad that the game isn't featuring designs closer to that.


Actually it has an original score with a couple of Davidge bits. And I wouldn't judge the thing by the trailer, which was put together in a rush for comiccon from very rough footage. I just watched the first two episodes in their 99% complete state and I literally got chills. And you know me and setting of expectations.
Will there be bite from past Halo games also? Or at least bits inspired by past Halo games?


This was a great interview.. can't wait til part 2!

Wait, I thought the orange beam in the middle of Solace was NOT a gravity lift?
And yet this video (2:45) shows differently. And another example at 3:20.
Perhaps it was a late change?

Also some Concussion Rifle gameplay at 3:43.

Hmm, that is really weird... David definitely implied it would kill players, but you can see it acting as a lift multiple times.. Maybe the designers changed it but didn't tell anyone? :lol
 
No need to be so hostile, I recognise than now, it wasn't as big of a deal yesterday, nobody understood why they were there yesterday.
He wasn't being hostile...
And again, I refer you to this.
An Internet leak occurs when a party's confidential information is released to the public on the Internet. Various types of information and data can be, and have been, "leaked" to the Internet, the most common being personal information, computer software and source code, and artistic works such as books or albums. For example, a musical album is leaked if it has been made available to the public on the Internet before its official release date; this musical material is still intended to be confidential.
 
No need to be so hostile, I recognise than now, it wasn't as big of a deal yesterday, nobody understood why they were there yesterday.

Lol, you've never seen me hostile.

And I was responding to something you directly said a few moments before, and at that moment you seemed still on the proverbial fence about taking them down. I was simply encouraging you to do so. Nothing more. Seems nearly the whole of this forum (and most others) feel the same way, at least, those that have respect for creators and their material.
 

Moa

Member
Lol, you've never seen me hostile.

And I was responding to something you directly said a few moments before, and at that moment you seemed still on the proverbial fence about taking them down. I was simply encouraging you to do so. Nothing more. Seems nearly the whole of this forum (and most others) feel the same way, at least, those that have respect for creators and their material.
Just deleted all of them off my channel now.

When you say "responding to something you directly said a few moments", is that in reference to when I ripped on the mods on Twitter for locking a topic linking to the soundtracks, if so, I full on apologise for that, rough day, very cranky :/
 

nillapuddin

Member
Alot has been said about the shuffled ordnance system in Infinity gametypes

yet on every match of Solace Ive seen its been Incinerator/Sword down low, snipe up top

Is there a better video example of where different power weapons are spawning in the same location?
 
Just deleted all of them off my channel now.

When you say "responding to something you directly said a few moments", is that in reference to when I ripped on the mods on Twitter for locking a topic linking to the soundtracks, if so, I full on apologise for that, rough day, very cranky :/

Sigh... no. Despite what people think, the mods don't actually spend a lot of time worrying about how people feel about us following direct orders. No offense of course.

I was referring to this:

For those who were curious, Neil Davidge removed the Remixes from Soundcloud overnight, just checked this morning.

I've privated the YouTube videos, will probably remove them in the future.

I was merely encouraging you to change it to "definitely" and "now", respectively. If you agreed they shouldn't be up, why wait? It really was nothing more than that.
 
Alot has been said about the shuffled ordnance system in Infinity gametypes

yet on every match of Solace Ive seen its been Incinerator/Sword down low, snipe up top

Is there a better video example of where different power weapons are spawning in the same location?

If the match starts, the same power weapons will spawn at the same location. So if you'd take The Pit as an example, at the start of a match, rockets will always spawn at rockets spawn, snipers at sniper spawn etc. However, where in previous games, most power weapons respawne after 3 minutes, in Halo 4, that time is unknown. And to make it even more stupid, a sniper could spawn at the place where rockets spawn or a rocket launcher on shotgun spawn. (Not all weapons spawn on all maps though)
 
Alot has been said about the shuffled ordnance system in Infinity gametypes

yet on every match of Solace Ive seen its been Incinerator/Sword down low, snipe up top

Is there a better video example of where different power weapons are spawning in the same location?

"shuffled" or Global ordnance system is not exclusive to Infinity gametypes, it's the weapon spawning system across the game.

What you're seeing is that the starting power weapons at the beginning of the game are always static, but then after that, at each appropriate time interval, on of the set locations is randomly chosen, and one of the selected weapons for that map and gametype is randomly chosen, and you get a weapon drop. It's a pretty poor system (easily the most worrying thing about the game from my experience).

^Tha Robbertster^
I'm pretty sure that time is the only thing that is consistent with the ordnance system. The weapon and location are random (picked from a pre-determined selection), but the timing is always the same.
 

Moa

Member
Sigh... no. Despite what people think, the mods don't actually spend a lot of time worrying about how people feel about us following direct orders. No offense of course.

I was referring to this:



I was merely encouraging you to change it to "definitely" and "now", respectively. If you agreed they shouldn't be up, why wait? It really was nothing more than that.

Ahhh, I see, I was going to try and figure out what was up with the remixes being 'released' early, but like you said, better to just remove it now.
 
^Tha Robbertster^
I'm pretty sure that time is the only thing that is consistent with the ordnance system. The weapon and location are random (picked from a pre-determined selection), but the timing is always the same.

Really? I thought times were random too. Maybe someone from 343 can clarify this?
 
inb4 another 100 pages of "343 Y U NO RANKING SYSTEM?!?"

Source ?

Cause I read somewhere, that the other gametypes have fixed weapon spawns.
All game-types (well the vast majority, at least) will have global ordnance, only infinity game modes will have personal ordnance.
 

nillapuddin

Member
I entirely understand the starting drops are static, Im saying throughout gameplay of the videos Ive seen the same weapons down there

Has anyone seen for example, a human rocket launcher spawn down there instead of I-cannon?

Im seeing the same weapons over and over, I have a feeling each spawn location has a "pool" of weapons to choose from, I dont think a conc-rifle will spawn bottom mid
 
I entirely understand the starting drops are static, Im saying throughout gameplay of the videos Ive seen the same weapons down there

Has anyone seen for example, a human rocket launcher spawn down there instead of I-cannon?

Im seeing the same weapons over and over, I have a feeling each spawn location has a "pool" of weapons to choose from, I dont think a conc-rifle will spawn bottom mid
Weapons don't have to be shuffled. They can. At least I did not notice the random shuffle on every map/gametype.

What the difference between the two ?
In Infinity Gametypes, you can earn points which will fill your Personal Ordnance drop. If it is filled, the game will let you decide between 3 options(Power Weapon, Grenades or a pick-up(Overshield, speed boost, damage boost). Shortly after your decision, the selected option will drop in front of you.
 

Moa

Member
What the difference between the two ?

Global Ordnance is just weapon drops that are not controlled by a player at all, similar to weapon drops on Halo 3 & Reach.

Personal Ordnance are pretty much just killstreaks.
 
What the difference between the two ?

Global is like other Halo games except it drops from the sky, and personal is achieved by something like 5 kills, and you can chose between three weapons/powerups to drop close to you.
(edit: Hyper explained it better, it's 4am, I need sleep)

Does that mean that they are no weapons spawned on the map ? Like COD ?
They drop immediately at the start of the game, and every few minutes. CoD doesn't have any weapons on map.
 

mhi

Member
In Infinity Gametypes, you can earn points which will fill your Personal Ordnance drop. If it is filled, the game will let you decide between 3 options(Power Weapon, Grenades or a pick-up(Overshield, speed boost, damage boost). Shortly after your decision, the selected option will drop in front of you.

Does that mean that they are no weapons spawned on the map ? Like COD ?
 

nillapuddin

Member
I hear you get pretty hostile when there's a lack of pizza around. Or when Alabama loses.

good thing we never lose

Weapons don't have to be shuffled. They can. At least I did not notice the random shuffle on every map/gametype.

Its something that on paper seemed to cause a much bigger fuss than how its actually plays

Does that mean that they are no weapons spawned on the map ? Like COD ?

no, still halo
still rocks at bottom mid
 
imo BJ in reach was borderline efficient. I loved it in Halo 3. From 3 -> Reach was +1, from Reach -> 4 is +1 again.
3 to reach was +1? Not really, the button for equiptment in 3 was exactly replaced by the button for AA in reach. The only thing hindering its efficiency in reach was the difficulty of use for jetpack, which personally isn't a problem for me.
 
Source ?

Cause I read somewhere, that the other gametypes have fixed weapon spawns.
From playing the game.
Global Ordnance is just weapon drops that are not controlled by a player at all, similar to weapon drops on Halo 3 & Reach.

Personal Ordnance are pretty much just killstreaks.
Global is like other Halo games except it drops from the sky, and personal is achieved by something like 5 kills, and you can chose between three weapons/powerups to drop close to you.
(edit: Hyper explained it better, it's 4am, I need sleep)
Not killstreaks, all your personal points awarded to you in the game fill up the meter. 343 has not said how have points you need for a personal ordnance drop.
no, still halo
still rocks at bottom mid
At the start of the game, after that you don't know.
Cool, but the non-infinity gametypes will just have the global minus the personal ordinace.

Correct.
 
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