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HTC reveals 5-inch, 1080p (440ppi) "HTC J Butterfly" in Japan

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nephilimdj

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1080p but still restricted by Androids poor widget system, kinda sucks.
Hate the unused space between stuff on screen, even if a icon could clearly fit.

*owns a HTC One XL*
 
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Toki767

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nephilimdj said:
1080p but still restricted by Androids poor widget system, kinda sucks.
Hate the unused space between stuff on screen, even if a icon could clearly fit.

*owns a HTC One XL*
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Err...maybe you should try installing a different launcher? Apex and Nova should both support up to 10 x 10 grids.
 
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nib95

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Won't the phone be less smooth/quick if it's 1080p and 5 inches? Also, will non native resolution apps look blurry on it? Still should look absolutely gorgeous. Looks phenomenal and the bezel is super thin all around. Super efficient design.
 
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JordanKZ

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nib95 said:
Won't the phone be less smooth/quick if it's 1080p and 5 inches? Also, will be non native apps look blurry on it? Still. Looks phenomenal and the bezel is super thin all around. Super efficient design.
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With that processor? Nope. S4 Pro is crazy fast. And apps are natively designed on Android to fit any screen size, so that's not a problem.
 
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strata8

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nib95 said:
Won't the phone be less smooth/quick if it's 1080p and 5 inches? Also, will non native resolution apps look blurry on it? Still should look absolutely gorgeous. Looks phenomenal and the bezel is super thin all around. Super efficient design.
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The new GPU in the quad-core S4 is about twice as fast as the previous gen, so it should be fine.
 
Slayer-33

Slayer-33

Liverpool-2
God damn god damn god damn!

This thing looks delicious, god damn

I wanted a Note II... When does this thing come out in the US?!
 
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Cipherr

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Toki767 said:
Err...maybe you should try installing a different launcher? Apex and Nova should both support up to 10 x 10 grids.
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I love that. Can even turn off the Google Search bar and use that space for icons if you want too. Nova is great with that.
 
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Brinbe

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Agree with those who want this in a slightly smaller size, but good on HTC for leading the way on this. This'll spur on others to follow.
 
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Übermatik

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HTC-J-Butterfly-HTL21-3V-red.png
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Dayum. Like the guy above me said, bring this to the UK and I'm sold. That's a really sleek, professional looking design man.
 
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DBT85

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MNC said:
Yuuup. Now if they just got rid of HTC Sense...

2GB Ram... quad core processor... Something's really amiss when a fucking phone has better hardware than my old Desktop. :|
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Phone ram and phone processors are not the same as PC ram and processors.

If they were I'd have Supreme Commander on my One X.

Since I'm tied in for 18 months I'll have to skip this model, but I'm sure the next one will be as good.
 
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Somnid

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I'm sorry but I find this utterly pointless.

Basically once the term "retina" started popping up resolution bumps stopped meaning anything. The idea behind a retina display is that with 20/20 vision at a normal distance you can't see the pixels. It doesn't matter how high the DPI gets after that, you can't resolve it.

Now people can get closer to the screen and people can have better than 20/20 vision so it's not the end completely, but who cares? We've mathematically established a significant milestone of diminishing returns. If you're going to power a 5" 1080p screen you're almost certainly better off powering an aspect that most people can see, whether it be 120FPS refresh or 3D. But en lieu of that why not cap the resolution at a decently high "retina" DPI, then you need a less greedy processor and you'll save battery life.

It's like this was made to one up somebody without any care as to it's implications and as a system it sounds poorly optimized just to have that number on a spec sheet.
 
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Vanillalite

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The World has yet to topple Super LCD2 and HTC says yo bitches we got a 1080p Super LCD3 screen up in here! Game on!!
 
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Cipherr

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Somnid said:
I'm sorry but I find this utterly pointless.

Basically once the term "retina" started popping up resolution bumps stopped meaning anything. The idea behind a retina display is that with 20/20 vision at a normal distance you can't see the pixels. It doesn't matter how high the DPI gets after that, you can't resolve it.

Now people can get closer to the screen and people can have better than 20/20 vision so it's not the end completely, but who cares? We've mathematically established a significant milestone of diminishing returns. If you're going to power a 5" 1080p screen you're almost certainly better off powering an aspect that most people can see, whether it be 120FPS refresh or 3D. But en lieu of that why not cap the resolution at a decently high "retina" DPI, then you need a less greedy processor and you'll save battery life.

It's like this was made to one up somebody without any care as to it's implications and as a system it sounds poorly optimized just to have that number on a spec sheet.
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Technology advances, whether the increases/benefits lessen in proportion to years prior or not. Deal with it. The entire world isn't going to stop pressing forward on screen technology just because you don't feel the benefits are good enough anymore. And I'm sure HTC doesn't care what the 'idea' behind "Retina" is either so, I'm not sure what you are looking to discuss here.

As for who cares? Well.... read this thread, we do.

Brettison said:
The World has yet to topple Super LCD2 and HTC says yo bitches we got a 1080p Super LCD3 screen up in here! Game on!!
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If they manage to one up the LCD2 in color accuracy, black and white levels also, I'll be on the floor. It was by far my most loved tech jump this year. SLCD3 has me extremely excited. Also, its been what, 5 or 6 months since they rolled out their SLCD2's? Will SLCD4 be ready by the time the HTC TwoX launches? Lawdhammercy.
 
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liger05

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I want this!!!

I can upgrade now and while im tempted by the S3 or Note II I decided weeks ago to wait until we see the next nexus phones and what HTC are bringing.

If this was UK released it would be mine!!
 
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wwlnd

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Somnid said:
I'm sorry but I find this utterly pointless.

Basically once the term "retina" started popping up resolution bumps stopped meaning anything. The idea behind a retina display is that with 20/20 vision at a normal distance you can't see the pixels. It doesn't matter how high the DPI gets after that, you can't resolve it.
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Is this an uncontroversial consenus among experts?

Maybe it's just psychological, but when I saw a retina mbp in a shop I felt that it still fell far short of RL in terms of resolution.
 
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MNC

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DBT85 said:
Phone ram and phone processors are not the same as PC ram and processors.

If they were I'd have Supreme Commander on my One X.

Since I'm tied in for 18 months I'll have to skip this model, but I'm sure the next one will be as good.
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Oh dear God can you imagine if it were? Superfast phones heyo. But still, I have no doubts the phone counterparts are still fast and that Nvidia Tegra (?) mobile video still blows me away.
 
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nib95

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liger05 said:
I want this!!!

I can upgrade now and while im tempted by the S3 or Note II I decided weeks ago to wait until we see the next nexus phones and what HTC are bringing.

If this was UK released it would be mine!!
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Well, be prepared to wait a while. It's not coming out any time soon. The One XL is HTC's flagship for the time being, and in the near future.
 
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Akira

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It's so sexy. I've been loving HTC's new phones this year, even their new W8 phones. With all that top tier hardware, how did they get this one so thin? That screen looks amazing from the photos. Although I'm not sure about such a huge phone coming from an iPhone 4, that pixel density certainly does make it very tempting.

By the way, who designed and manufactures HTC's LCD2/3? Designed/engineered by HTC, but manufacturing outsourced to another company?
 
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tino

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345triangle said:
OP is my article. this phone is amazing, believe me, though the battery life concerns could prove well-founded.



i use an aquos phone on softbank and like it quite a bit, though the lack of even platinum band (never mind LTE!) is pretty annoying. may well be tempted to switch soon.
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Good job. Did you try any 1080p video?
 
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liger05

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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc-dlx-is-tipped-to-be-a-5-inch-samsung-galaxy-note-rival-50009437/

Well-informed HTC modder Football quotes specs for the rumoured DLX, which at 5 inches straddles the divide between smart phone and tablet.

That 5-inch display is a high-definition 1080p job. Underneath that sizable slab of a screen is a 1.5GHz quad-core Snapdragon S4 Pro processor with 1.5GB of RAM. There's a 12-megapixel camera and 16GB of storage for your music, movies, apps and snaps. A chunky 2,500mAh battery keeps things running.

The DLX is expected to run the latest Android 4.1 Jelly Bean software, with a special version of HTC's new Sense 5 interface on top.

In the US, the DLX could be christened the Droid Incredible X. So far, word on the street is that the DLX will make its debut on US phone network Verizon some time this autumn, with no details of a European release yet. I'd expect it to come over here, given the success of the Note and Note 2, but that's by no means certain: previous HTC tablet the HTC Jetstream never made it to the UK.

Could the DLX be related to the rumoured 5-inch version of the HTC One X? That tablet has been heavily rumoured to be the first 5-inch Google Nexus device, showing off the latest version of Android in untainted form. The only official word from HTC on the subject of tablets is one is definitely in the works, and will have "something unique to offer".

HTC has its work cut out going after the popular Note. The Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is the newest incarnation of Samsung's trailblazing phablet, boasting a 5.5-inch screen and monstrous quad-core processor. If you're wondering what anyone would use all that screen real estate for, have a gander at our top 25 Galaxy Note 2 tips.
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Bboy AJ

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
Battery is a death sentence. It will make the phone near unusable without a spare.

Also, no on screen buttons, boo.
 
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liger05

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Why do HTC go with the low batteries. I love the One X but they really could of put a more powerful battery in that.
 
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antipod

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The silver (white?) model is the one I prefer. It really looks slick and very very good except one detail I dislike: the part where the ear speaker is. It just doesn't fit in.

But, it might get changed when this model or a similar one gets here to Europe.

Still have 1.5 years left on my One X subscription but well be damned if I wouldn't jump on something similar to this. Especially if they release a similar Nexus model, as some people think are on the way based on for example a twitter by Jeff Gordon at HTC:

Anyone else think those Nexus 4 / Nexus G rumors are starting to look a LOT less interesting? ;-)
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Angst

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Somnid said:
I'm sorry but I find this utterly pointless.

Basically once the term "retina" started popping up resolution bumps stopped meaning anything. The idea behind a retina display is that with 20/20 vision at a normal distance you can't see the pixels. It doesn't matter how high the DPI gets after that, you can't resolve it.

Now people can get closer to the screen and people can have better than 20/20 vision so it's not the end completely, but who cares? We've mathematically established a significant milestone of diminishing returns. If you're going to power a 5" 1080p screen you're almost certainly better off powering an aspect that most people can see, whether it be 120FPS refresh or 3D. But en lieu of that why not cap the resolution at a decently high "retina" DPI, then you need a less greedy processor and you'll save battery life.

It's like this was made to one up somebody without any care as to it's implications and as a system it sounds poorly optimized just to have that number on a spec sheet.
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"We have mathematically established a significant milestone..." By "we", you really mean "Steve Jobs".
 
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Cipherr

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Apparently it has a 2500 mAh battery. I believe that is the same size as the first Galaxy Note. The first note also had a larger screen at 5.3", while this phone has a 5", but this one has a higher resolution. Assuming its 2500 mAh though, I'm not so sure the battery life is going to be all that bad.
 
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dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Fuuuuuu

That's a nice screen. 1080p at 5"?!

Hopefully the hardware can drive it smoothly. Jelly Bean is like butter on the GS3, but does not run smooth on the Transformer Infinity (which is 1080p). I would assume this phone uses faster hardware, though, so hopefully it can drive it.
 
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