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Halo 4: Review Thread

Sai-kun

Banned
We were talking about FPSes. First Person Shooters.
Skyrim and the Elder Scrolls series are First Person games (well, the can be played in TP but they're not very good that way) but they're not shooters.
First Person Action Game describes hybrid games better, if they're played in first person.
I didn't say it was a bad thing, just that i'd disqualify them as FPSes.

Skyrim could technically be played as an FPS because of the bow/arrow :>

But obviously you can't count TES games as FPS because you literally can't shoot people with guns and shit. You CAN shoot people with guns and shit in pretty much all the other games people listed. That's literally the only qualifier there is for first person shooter games.

Is it first person?

Can you shoot people?

edit: i'm moving into thread shitting territory. whatever. you're missing out big time. Congrats again to 343 for the awesome reviews. I am so stoked to finally get my hands on the game again.
 
Memorable in its shittyness. The concept is good but the execution... just another firefight mission. For fucks sake, leave it out if you can't do it properly...

Speaking of firefight, that last stand level would have been a great firefight map.

Oh and NeoGAF, where every game played in first person is a first person shooter.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Yeah, I guess I like it more conceptually.

I would have loved it if we were supposed to engage in a guerrila fight against Covenant (in theory) but get overwhelmed soon anyway.
Like, steal a Phantom or blow them up, sabotage Covenant staging areas etc. As it is, it was a mere firefight scenario. Why not add the map to Firefight too, BTW? EDIT beaten :p

Skyrim could technically be played as an FPS because of the bow/arrow :>

But obviously you can't count TES games as FPS because you literally can't shoot people with guns and shit. You CAN shoot people with guns and shit in pretty much all the other games people listed. That's literally the only qualifier there is for first person shooter games.

Is it first person?

Can you shoot people?

edit: i'm moving into thread shitting territory. whatever. you're missing out big time. Congrats again to 343 for the awesome reviews. I am so stoked to finally get my hands on the game again.

The difference is, in FPS you primarily shoot things. In the others, you can do that but it is not the primary thing. It is an option. Thus, they're not FPS. But yes, let's drop it.
 
Giantbomb: " I felt like much of the promise inherit to this potentially new setting had been squandered. Maybe that's on me for wanting Halo to be something other than Halo"

The bolded should put Gianbomb in to context. All throughout the review reeks of disappointment that it's too Halo. Too much like older games.

Jeff has become more jaded over the years, but yes, that bolded segment does make the review score make more sense.

When I buy the next Uncharted, I hope it's less Uncharted.
 

QaaQer

Member
EDGE's review is pretty...fluffy (thanks for giving me talking points about the arsenal and location). With the uproar about the score, I was expecting a more substantial read.

I guess I'm just used to Halo-GAF's long winded rants.

pretty much. besides, 8 is the absolute minimum you are going to see on a review that requires a corporations expressed written consent to publish. Ie. to get early review code you have sign agreements. Personally, I'm curious to see how it reviews with people who actually hav e to spend money on the game.
 

LosDaddie

Banned
Just got done reading the Giant Bomb and EDGE reviews. Jeff seemed disappointed the campaign isn't radically different (mainly the enemies & such) more than anything else. Same for the Edge guy, but he was also disappointed the MP is drifting towards CoD-style perks/killstreak system. That is my chief concern as well because I prefer Halo's MP style.

Overall, great scores all around! :) Not that I needed any convincing as I've had the LE preordered since it was announced. Halo has always been my go-to FPS for consoles.

And people should stop whining about perfect scores, regardless of what game it is. All a 'perfect' score means is that it's the highest recommendation a critic/website can give a game. Doesn't mean the game itself has no flaws.



So, Eurogamer gave Halo 4 an 8, where is the thread to bitch about them? Oh, i see, this isn't a Playstation exclusive :p

You act as if that's surprising.
:p
 

Dance Inferno

Unconfirmed Member
Definitely waiting for real-person impressions. I enjoyed Reach online, but god damn was it's single-player crap. I just couldn't believe the praise it got, especially the praise for the story, so I'm super-wary about some of these reviews.

This right here. I've always thought the Halo games had pretty mediocre campaigns that get hyped to high heaven, so I'm waiting to see what people around here think about the campaign. I'm not a big multiplayer guy so I generally get games for their single player offerings.
 
Jeff has become more jaded over the years, but yes, that bolded segment does make the review score make more sense.

When I buy the next Uncharted, I hope it's less Uncharted.

it seems consistent for Jeff to mark down a later entry in a series for not being fresh enough, so i'm not surprised by his score at all. even then though, it's a good score. if Halo 4 still manages a 4/5 for people wanting something different, that's pretty damn good.
 

REV 09

Member
Jeff has become more jaded over the years, but yes, that bolded segment does make the review score make more sense.

When I buy the next Uncharted, I hope it's less Uncharted.

GiantBomb has given all their Halo reviews 4/5 stars. The series just doesn't seem to click with them as much as other outlets.
 

george_us

Member
I'm kinda of sad there doesn't seem to be more
Promethean types than the ones we've seen and you apparently you spend most of the game fighting the Covenant.
Then again Halo fans would probably bitch if you spent too much time fighting new enemies.
 

enzo_gt

tagged by Blackace
Interested on Gametrailers' review but I will let other people watch to screen for spoilers first since they're especially bad at that stuff.
 

RSTEIN

Comics, serious business!
We need to get a crew together. I'm on this game like stink on shit

Definitely. It should be noted that I'm horrible at Halo. Although I'm very good at CoD so if Halo 4 is indeed more like CoD then I should show improvement.
 

Odrion

Banned
GiantBomb has given all their Halo reviews 4/5 stars. The series just doesn't seem to click with them as much as other outlets.
They've only had the chance to review ODST and up, and at that point it was getting somewhat stale.

Dissapointed that the "stranger in a strange world" concept was just a marketing line to sell the same rehashed experience, probably won't bite.
 

B.O.O.M

Member
I'm kind of surprised there aren't more reviews out yet :S I would have imagined reviewers would be in a hurry to release them since this is such a big title
 
Interested on Gametrailers' review but I will let other people watch to screen for spoilers first since they're especially bad at that stuff.

We'll.. they have this item up on GameTrailers:

Annoyed Gamer: A World without Spoilers
Marcus clarifies his hatred for El Shaddai and rallies for spoiler-free reviews.

So Marcus better kill te reviewer if he spoils shit.
 
Interested on Gametrailers' review but I will let other people watch to screen for spoilers first since they're especially bad at that stuff.

Wasn't there something about a later embargo for campaign footage? Maybe they're waiting for that to end to go full on spoilers like they usually do.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
This right here. I've always thought the Halo games had pretty mediocre campaigns that get hyped to high heaven, so I'm waiting to see what people around here think about the campaign. I'm not a big multiplayer guy so I generally get games for their single player offerings.

I've posted my impressions over in HaloGAF but I am a huge Halo fan so I am not sure how my impressions will effect you.

Halo 4 takes Halo's story to a new level and actually develops and builds character while at the same time bringing in a lot of extended fiction stuff that Bungie was VERY reluctant to do. My Campaign run was on Heroic and lasted around 8-9 hours and every enemy encounter was a great experience and sometimes even the sound design helps me out before I take out a group of enemies. There were 2 very specific mission that I know Halo fans will remember for awhile or at least have an adrenaline rush while doing.

There are 2 problems though, some story stuff might be confusing to people who don't know the extended fiction and also I wish there were more Promethean classes.

The first issue can easily be fixed with the terminals though, I was not able to view these as I was playing offline.


Overall as a Halo fan this is the game I have been waiting for, 343 has combined all aspects of the Halo universe that Bungie didn't dare touch and built an amazing story with a great sense of scale and the thought that there is an immediate danger happening.


Also I do not know how 343 did it but the aiming system and hit boxes are so good that the aiming in this game is best described as you think about it and it happens. I have never been able to do snap shots in my life but I have been pulling them off nonstop in Halo 4 and I will dare to say that this has the best aiming system of any FPS on the consoles.
 
I read through a lot of them and so far, Eurogamer is the most informative and has an actual critique about the game without spoiling it.

Can't wait to play it!
 

Syriel

Member
A few more that aren't listed in the OP yet.

Escapist = 8.0/10

The Escapist said:
It's going to feel a little off with a new studio taking over the franchise, and Bungie left a big mark on gaming with Halo. While 343i shouldn't just try to make a Bungie game, the single player isn't up to the series' standard. Halo 4 does balance that with a robust amount of content across the various gameplay modes.

Games(tm) = 9.0/10

Games(tm) said:
The question many will ask, ultimately, is how Halo 4 stacks up against its predecessors, and in truth it’s hard to answer at this time. It’ll take multiple runs through the campaign, hours and hours more multiplayer, and swaths of Spartan Ops mission to truly understand how good Halo 4 is. There’s one answer we can say with certainty, though: this is absolutely a Halo game. And that’s all that most fans would ever need to hear.

Gamer Informer = 9.3/10

Game Informer said:
Whether I am watching a grenade explode a Promethean into a shower of sparks or charging with friends at my side through a cooperative adventure, Halo 4 makes the series feel new again. 343 Industries’ clear affection for the property shines through, leaving me thrilled to join Master Chief for another decade in defense of the galaxy.

Gaming Nexus = 8.5/10

Gaming Nexus said:
Is Halo 4 the be-all and end-all of the video games of 2012? No. Is it a solid title that will keep fans of the series happy for the next couple of years? Without a doubt. 343 proves they have what it takes to carry the series into the next generation. This is a true Halo title through and through, which is both good and bad depending on your feelings on the series. There are some small quirks, but the multiplayer continues to be one of the most robust and addicting suites in the industry. Fans and gamers alike will be playing this one for a long, long time.

OXM UK = 9.0/10

OXM UK said:
It's tempting to treat Halo 4 as a taste of things to come. Arriving right at the cusp of a console generation change-over, the game's alluring looks hint at the cosmic attractions of Halo 5. The tellingly named Infinity fiction, meanwhile, points to a future where downloadable, possibly free-to-play episodes are the main event rather than a sideshow. But the hesitancy of 343's revisions and additions also invites you to look through their creation, pondering what might have been - or more justly, what probably will be. Microsoft's home-grown mega-studio has proven that it can make a great Halo. It has yet, however, to render Bungie's creations surplus to requirements.

Videogamer.com = 9.0/10

Videogamer.com said:
One fact is clear: this is no longer Bungie's Halo, but much of what made the series such an irresistible proposition has remained intact for this new beginning. Rich, lavish and often spectacular, Halo 4 is an encouraging first effort from 343 Industries and a deserving entry into one of gaming's most beloved franchises. Master Chief didn't need to reawaken so soon, but I'm certainly glad he did.

WorthPlaying = 8.5/10

WorthPlaying said:
Making a mark on an established universe is a very difficult thing to do. While 343 put together a solid game with Halo 4, it hasn't pushed the franchise forward in any meaningful way. Multiplayer has progressed, but the campaign and the overall plot hew close to the established formula. Instead of innovating, 343 has played it safe in just about every aspect. Halo 4 competes favorably with Halo: Reach, but it doesn't exceed Bungie's final installment.
 

nib95

Banned
Have to say, this game looks fantastic! I completely disagreed with some of the negative reviews for say, UC3, and I have no doubt I will here too. Truth be told, I haven't been this excited for a Halo game for a while. Well, Reach certainly had me excited, but ODST and Halo 3, not so much. Something about this one just looks the part and feels more atmospheric and premium.
 
Have not enjoyed a Halo game since Halo 3, really looking forward to this after reading all the reviews; cannot wait to play this.

If the gas shortage is not resolved next week I may be working from home which means Halo 4 time :D
 

Partition

Banned
How come no reviewers ever faulted CoD for being the same thing every year? It seems like with franchises like Halo which are different from the norm when it comes to the FPS genre, people expect more out of them in terms of creativity and innovation; when the games are already innovating by not just being another CoD clone (despite the changes to Multiplayer in H4)
 

Not a Jellyfish

but I am a sheep
While the scores might not be all over the place the content in the reviews are, interesting seeing the different expectations of the reviewers.
 
How come no reviewers ever faulted CoD for being the same thing every year? It seems like with franchises like Halo which are different from the norm when it comes to the FPS genre, people expect more out of them in terms of creativity and innovation; when the games are already innovating by not just being another CoD clone (despite the changes to Multiplayer in H4)

I could see Halo looking/feeling dated to the untrained eye. COD gets flashier and flashier, so it looks newer to the untrained eye. But the last couple call of duties haven't gotten better reviews than halo 4 seems to be getting, so that tells you something.
 

Wiggum2007

Junior Member
I don't know about you guys, but wanted a little more FIFA from this halo...

Jeff has become more jaded over the years, but yes, that bolded segment does make the review score make more sense.

When I buy the next Uncharted, I hope it's less Uncharted.

I think comments like this are silly, Jeff's thoughts are perfectly valid. After 5 games with the same formula it's reasonable that some people are finding the series a bit stale and were hoping for a change-up. No different then when people complain about, say, a new CoD being released every year with little changes. I don't think it's unfair to have wanted the series to take more chances in switching things up.

Obviously some people are going to be more burnt out on Halo than others, and some might think that a Halo without say the Covenant and Human sandbox would be too much of a change. I know I was looking forward to this prospect from the early premise of Halo 4 but it turns out much has remained the same. It's all subjective, but there's nothing wrong with someone wanting more change this far into a series.
 
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