yurinka
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If you believe teh VGLOLZ numbers then yes. But as for real known/public numbers, as I know Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG and MHP3rd are the best selling PSP games.Uh, a GTA game is the best selling PSP game ever...
If you believe teh VGLOLZ numbers then yes. But as for real known/public numbers, as I know Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG and MHP3rd are the best selling PSP games.Uh, a GTA game is the best selling PSP game ever...
If the max PS3 sold last Q was 1.8m (which is was, because it was down YOY) then simple math tells you PS2 was 1m to make it up to the 2.8m combined figure.
Are you being dense?
Christ, we know last Q they were 2.8m combined. We also know because Sony told us last Q PS3 was down YOY, so the max it could have been last Q was 1.8m for PS3, however it could be lower. That leaves 1m+ for PS2. It isn't rocket science ...
Did they say anywhere PS3 hardware units were down in the first quarter?
My apologies for asking a question!!!!! Christ!!!!!
YOY means total year on year. So technically, if the PS3 sold more anytime during that year it would affect the YOY number, and not necessarily make it possible to figure out that quarters amount based off of that.
Ya I believe they did, I've sene it quoted a coupe of times, I'll try and find it.
Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011.
I found this in their earnings release:
It could mean revenue or it could mean units.
The statement is made on revenue terms, so it is unlikely they are talking about units.
Reads to me like Units, especially as it specfically mentions Hardware is down.
Given that PS2s are essentially impossible to buy new in the US anymore, I can't imagine they sold much of any here, whereas they certainly could have last year.
Reads to me like Units, especially as it specifically mentions Hardware is down. Also makes perfect sense both the PS2 and PS3 would be down, not as if PS3 has been up anywhere in the world at any point this year.
It's not like they havn't combined the two in a sentance dozen's of times before ...
One page ago you were a real stickler for the facts, and now you're the one making assumptions. What happened?
It's not some wild assumption pulled out of thin air is it. It's just a matter of opinion on the interpretation of that text. That and what makes the most common sense. Unless PS3 up in Europe, I'm not sure how that offsets the drop in US (180k) and Japan, whatever that is.
For the first time in a while, the big loser for the first half is NOT the Home and Entertainment segment, i.e. the TV business. The big loser is one of Kaz's three pillars, the Mobile Product and Communication segment, i.e. the smartphone, tablet, computer business.
H&E = -¥25.8B (~$322M)
MP&C = -¥51.2B (~$639.1M)
What about sony pictures. I tought the profit from spiderman would push somy into profitiblity or is it next quater
Sales decreased 3.7% year-on-year (a 6% decrease on a constant currency (U.S. dollar) basis) to 163.0 billion yen (2,090 million U.S. dollars). The decrease in revenues in the current quarter was primarily due to the sale of a participation interest in Spider-Man merchandising rights in the same quarter of the previous fiscal year, partially offset by higher theatrical revenues for the current years release slate which benefitted from the strong.
Operating income decreased 12.7 billion yen year-on-year to 7.9 billion yen (101 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was due to a benefit of 21.4 billion yen from the sale of the above-noted interest in Spider-Man merchandising rights in the same quarter of the previous fiscal year, partially offset by the stronger performance of the current years film slate in the current quarter. The current years film slate included the strong performance of The Amazing Spider-Man, partially offset by the underperformance of Total Recall. Higher U.S. television network programming revenues and lower production expenses for new U.S. television network and made-for-cable television programming in the current quarter also partially offset the decrease in operating income
"Sales decreased 14.5% year-on-year (a 10% decrease on a constant currency basis) to 118.0 billion yen (1,493 million U.S. dollars). This decrease was primarily due to lower sales of hardware and software of the PSP® (PlayStation Portable) and PlayStation®3, partially offset by the contribution of the PlayStation®Vita introduced from December 2011."
dam has the ps3 been selling that bad?the gap grew to nearly 7 million compared to 360 now.
If you believe teh VGLOLZ numbers then yes. But as for real known/public numbers, as I know Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG and MHP3rd are the best selling PSP games.
Both divisions are expected to be profitable or at least break even in 2013/4. Sony Mobile is now the third largest player in smartphones, behind Samsung and Apple. IDC got the wrong figures, Sony shipped 8.8m smartphones in the quarter, beating HTC, RIM, Moto and ZTE all of whom sold 7.5-7.8m.
source?
Sigh at lumping systems together. Is it really that bad to just release Vita HW sales?
Sigh at lumping systems together. Is it really that bad to just release Vita HW sales?
Could be better if they had a presence in the US. Their main phone, the Xperia TL, is releasing exclusively on AT&T. Compare that to the Galaxy or the iphone that are available on Sprint, Verizon, ATT, T-Mobile, Mobile PCS, etc
I honestly have no idea why they don't have a better deal with US carriers and subsidize their phones here.
MHP2G and MHP3 have sold in excess of 4 million copies worldwide. Those numbers can be easily verified.
We don't have up to date worldwide sales for either LCS or VCS. They may have sold more than MH, but we simply don't know.
Sony (and Nokia) are not equipped to deal with US carriers, they just don't know how to deal with that kind of market where each carrier requires its own hardware SKU rather than one phone for all markets and carriers (like Europe).
So when exactly was the last good Sony earnings release? Not one where they met or exceeded shitty expectations, or one where you think maybe they've stopped the bleeding and begun a turnaround, but a quarter where you look at the numbers and think "This company has its shit together. It is really firing on all cylinders."
It has to have been over 10 years ago, right? What a waste.
So when exactly was the last good Sony earnings release? Not one where they met or exceeded shitty expectations, or one where you think maybe they've stopped the bleeding and begun a turnaround, but a quarter where you look at the numbers and think "This company has its shit together. It is really firing on all cylinders."
It has to have been over 10 years ago, right? What a waste.
If Sony kills Vita, they lose all the investment they have put on it, from R&D to production and marketing, that money is lost forever. As far as Vita is not actually dragging them, which I don't think is the case, they have to explore what they can do to make it a sustainable machine.
So when exactly was the last good Sony earnings release? Not one where they met or exceeded shitty expectations, or one where you think maybe they've stopped the bleeding and begun a turnaround, but a quarter where you look at the numbers and think "This company has its shit together. It is really firing on all cylinders."
It has to have been over 10 years ago, right? What a waste.
Take2 announced that gta lcs shipped 8 million back in 2008.If you believe teh VGLOLZ numbers then yes. But as for real known/public numbers, as I know Monster Hunter Portable 2ndG and MHP3rd are the best selling PSP games.
Maybe one or two more revisions and they'll get the right forecast for Vita!
Probably a couple years ago. Though the exact date escapes me, it was certainly under Stringer.
Uh no the PS2 days Sony was still quite profitable. Sony-Ericson used to be one of the powerhouses in the US, Sony Mobile is still quite popular outside of the US, during that time. Not sure how you think a company would stay that large with a decade straight of bad earnings.
They need to make an effort if they want to get in the biggest market in the world and if they want mobile to become one of their 3 pillars that drives them forward. On top of that, Kaz has lived a long time in the US, you think he would know that and try to get . Have they mentioned anything regarding getting on extra carriers in the US? I don't know if they want to be tied to AT&T for a long time.
Take2 announced that gta lcs shipped 8 million back in 2008.
Of course it was ps2 and psp ( likely majority of which for psp).
As I wrote to counter what a gaffer said about gta inability to sell on handheld, gta games performance on psp disprove him.
Any info regarding how much revenue Sony made from PSN?
PS3 has been reliably selling 75+% of combined ps2/ps3 sales over the past year (over 85% during the holidays last year), and obviously going forward the ps3 will only increase that share as the ps2 slowly dies off. So using 75% as a minimum baseline, we get the following picture:
63.9 + .75*2.8 +.75*3.5 = ~68.6 million units sold globally after this quarter at a minimum.
Compare that to 360's 70 million and ps3 is now only trailing by 1.4 million units max.
It's pretty safe to say at this point that by the end of Sony's fiscal year the PS3 will be in second place globally, certainly before the next consoles come out.
MS will never have a loss as long as Windows is the OS of choice. It prints money for them.
Next consoles start launching in a few weeks. You really think the PS3 will continue to sell once the WiiU hits Japan with an HD Mario brothers on shelves and Dragon Quest in the box? You think they will keep their same sales as MS drops the price of the 360 (they haven't dropped in over 4 years). Sony is about 14 million behind in the US and Japan was the only thing keeping them up with 360 numbers. If the WiiU eats their lunch in Japan which odds are good it will then those sales will drop even more.
Now that Sony has hid the PS3 numbers behind the PS2, there is no way we can know at all if or when Sony ever does take second place. Unless they specifically announced independent PS3 numbers, it will always be a mystery and nothing will ever be able to be proven if they keep hiding the numbers the way they are now. As long as they combine numbers, it will be pure speculation.
It really isn't safe to say that since MS traditionally ships more in Q4. The gap will widen next quarter.It's pretty safe to say at this point that by the end of Sony's fiscal year the PS3 will be in second place globally, certainly before the next consoles come out.