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The Phantom Pain, aka Metal Gear Solid V, Announced (360/PS3, "Moby Dick Studio")
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keltickennedy
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It is real time. If it was a pre-rendered cutscene there would be rendering errors on some of the characters.
Pay attention to the shader errors on her eyes and then the texture error on the policeman's face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QbmcfJnjty0#t=1016s
AuthenticM
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We are not finding the trailer incredible, but everything surrounding it, such as Kojima trolling the entire fucking planet, Live. That's what incredible.
And people are excite for Metal Gear, because Metal Gear.
Shtof
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Ground Zeroes looks pretty next-gen to me. There are a few things that doesn't look so good, but that's probably just because the engine is still in the works. Rain effects, lighting and reflections looks it would be hard to pull of on these consoles though. It's not like there's an infinite supply of power.
I put this image...
...into Google Images and among the visually similar images (mostly delicious-looking food), there's this image from Bungie.net:(...) Holy shit.
Not sure how much I should read into all of this, but I'm so excited to see what comes of all of this. Squeeee!!!
Every video game is interactive story with some gaming aspects.
On top of the train [and inside when you are running, and everywhere else] you control where she walks with a stick, you choose her moves with other buttons, and in ghost mode you have total freedom to move and interact with the world.
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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sorry, I probably used the wrong technical term, I am no expert.
But I simply am saying that you aren't actually playing the game during that gif.
But I simply am saying that you aren't actually playing the game during that gif.
Shtof
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Real time, but no interactivity. Also, tiiiny gif.
Graphics Horse
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Aquamarine
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Considering how bad sales have been, I'd say that's happened already.
Like others have said, Phantom Pain + Ground Zero are probably just separate chapters in MGS:V.
keltickennedy
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Dude, instead of just continuing to disagree with me how about going over to youtube and watch some videos for the game. There is interactivity.
Apologizes for the tiny gif, but I didn't want to take up space.
You and me have a very different view on how we can "actually play a game".
Can you control exact movements of Snake when he crouch or stands up? No, you press a button and animation plays out. Same happens here, only one button press leads to a longer success/failure animation, and from there story branches out into new gameplay scenes.
Heavy rain, Beyond Two Souls, and every other adventure games [
like "The Walking Dead", VGA GOTY that was voted by press members from industry leading websites and magazines
Graphics Horse
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That's the part I find hard to believe.
This game isn't acknowledged by Konami yet, while GZ is very public, it's weird.
Maybe they could be packaged together, like MGO and MGS4? I guess that would count.
It's gameplay, you move the character around on the train.
I did actually
Goes to show you who are the warriors and who are the sheeps around here.
Net_Wrecker
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I still say it's a "meh" trailer, but the MGS connection makes it more intriguing as to where it all fits. There's nothing in the trailer that makes me think "MAN, I WANT TO PLAY THAT" though which is where the negativity stems from.
Shtof
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Just saw the 'Sandbox' gameplay from August. While it looks really impressive, I don't think it can compete with what we see in Phantom Pain.
IdreamofHIME
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When it was shown, the wave of negativity in the VGA thread was incredible. I mean there was a clear element there just to shit on everything VGA, but Phantom Pain was really badly received.
...and some wonder why devs are so scared to try new ips?
FlutterPuffs
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Or most probably, those are two sets of people commenting.
It's not like it's a hivemind, you know.
Shtof
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Beyond: Two Souls.
eso76
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Truth is
Ground zeroes and phantom pain do not exist.
They are the two phantoms born from fox, fox being fox engine.
Games that are never coming out, what we've seen is just tech demos/scenario for another game not mg related.
Ultimate troll.
Heh. No, I don't believe what I just wrote.
Lighting and shaders do make the graphics look beyond current gen, but that's fox engine's strenght, as demoed previously (horse in office pics). Models, IQ etc are all very much current gen.
So the British flag.
I thought maybe this takes place in a British colony or protectorate...Zanzibar, which would tie this to mg2. but Zanzibar hasn't been a protectorate since 1963 iirc..
Now that i think of it, though, In GZ trailer we see an american flag. Not the same place ?
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Yeah. I'm 100% certain the doctor scene is really happening after he wakes up. What happens in the hallucination will be meaningful to the game as a whole no doubt.
Mexican Sting
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People keep saying The Boss, but her hair style and color say say Para Medic or Amanda to me.
It's honestly still a terribly cut trailer either way
Chinpoko_Master
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So does that mean this trailer doesn't count either? After all, it was just a cutscene.
Game doesn't even look that good to begin with.
I'll admit, I thought the trailer was really bad due to the constant questions being quickfired and how very little gameplay was shown.
But since then finding out this is in Ground Zeroes/part of MGS it's insanely intriguing. The little we've seen from Ground Zeroes looked spectacular, so if the segment in the Phantom Pain trailer is in Ground Zeroes/MGS V, that means we just saw an abstract element that could be in a future MGS.
You've read the thread correctly then.
Pai Pai Master
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Soooo left arm...prosthetic or no?
By incredible you mean incredibly small. The vast majority of reactions were people saying what am I watching or just simply repeating what they were watching. ("Flaming unicorn + flaming whale = day 1" was my fav response)
The number of people who said they hated or loved the trailer was small and split evenly.
You can reread the thread if you like and see how off you are.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=503246&page=66
No.
The other complaint about lack of gameplay is more compelling but trailers aren't always meant to show gameplay. They are first and foremost to generate hype and this one delivers. Too bad it doesn't work for you two.
Well yeah, when you're first watching it it appears to be a graphical showcase trailer for a weird survival horror game from an unknown developer, probably for next-gen consoles. And because those types of games typically either sputter out or are released and mediocre, it was nothing to be excited about.
Then once you realize it's actually Metal Gear Solid V and has probably been in the works for 3-4 years by most of Konami's team that worked on IV, you suddenly have developer pedigree and an explanation for why the hell the trailer was so damn cryptic.
I don't think anyone was floored by the "gameplay" in that trailer, because it amounted to nothing more than running down a hallway. But we know the actual game that's being made is likely a proper Metal Gear, with an absurd story, bombastic boss battles, and some great stealth action gameplay.
What we probably saw was snippets of the first 15-30 minutes of the game (since typically in Metal Gear games you have about 1 minute of gameplay and 29 minutes of cinematics/cut-scenes during that).
If you want to know what type of gameplay you're getting, it's probably a lot like IV with some new twists -- or so I hope, because it was a damn shame that they finally made a competent metal gear control scheme and had painfully little gameplay to let you try all of the cool stuff that you can do.
If you don't like Metal Gear, I doubt Konami is working on something that will win you over. If you are like me and love the gameplay and the multitude of ways you can tackle any given situation (while finding the story amusing for its absurdity), then this is exciting because V is coming and it looks gorgeous.
Ether_Snake
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People keep saying The Boss, but her hair style and color say say Para Medic or Amanda to me.
Come on that looks so much like Raiden lol. Raikov?
Shtof
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I'm pretty sure some of the crawling parts are gameplay.
Mind blown and sad face.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Uh, so I haven't paid attention to this at all, but now that I am...
Is Ground Zeroes not the same as this? This is completely different?
Is this Solid Snake or Big Boss? There are two MGS games coming out?
Is Ground Zeroes not the same as this? This is completely different?
Is this Solid Snake or Big Boss? There are two MGS games coming out?
Gouda Jouji
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Zanzibar isn't Zanzibarland. Zanzibarland was in Central Asia. The MGS4 novel says that it's actually Tselinoyarsk.
I just rewatched 14min presentation of Ground Zeroes. Magnificent, so full of details even though its clearly aimed at current gen consoles..
KOJIMA BRING GZ TO PC!!!! Put always-on DRM if you want, I dont care!
Without a doubt, this is Big Boss. As for one or two games, nobody knows. I think there will be two.
KOJIMA BRING GZ TO PC!!!! Put always-on DRM if you want, I dont care!
Without a doubt, this is Big Boss. As for one or two games, nobody knows. I think there will be two.
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I believe you are a little too excited.
Ether_Snake
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Also, anyone has any idea why in both trailers, when looking at a bright light, we hear a creepy sound?
GZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L5IVOs5Pxh8#t=234s
In Phantom (a light is shone in Big Boss' eyes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nSfajBs2nyQ#t=173s
That's not even mentioning to weird floating lights/lens effect in the GZ trailer that happens twice.
GZ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=L5IVOs5Pxh8#t=234s
In Phantom (a light is shone in Big Boss' eyes):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=nSfajBs2nyQ#t=173s
That's not even mentioning to weird floating lights/lens effect in the GZ trailer that happens twice.
Shtof
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Picture googling Tselinoyarsk... wtf?
hey_it's_that_dog
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I hope MGS 5 is a series of loosely related short stories set in the MGS universe with some emphasis on the surreal. I'm not interested in any more traditional MGS games.
keltickennedy
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What year does Big Boss take part in the Les Enfants Terribles project? Maybe that is related to the hospital in some way.
I also remember the fox engine stuff Kojima posted on his twitter awhile ago, talking about translucency with certain clothing fabric. Looks dope.
Seems those nurses were also used in the trailer.
I also remember the fox engine stuff Kojima posted on his twitter awhile ago, talking about translucency with certain clothing fabric. Looks dope.
Seems those nurses were also used in the trailer.
Mark my words, they are cut-scene checkpoints. If you skip animation with start button you jump to the next lights/lens marker.
YianGaruga
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I know a lot of people would hate that, but I would be absolutely hyped for something like this.
Shtof
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Woah, nice find! Now that's what I call confirmation that both trailers are the same game.
Ether_Snake
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How is that logical? So you have to watch the cutscene to know where, when you replay it, you'll skip to, rather than skip the cutscene outright?
I somehow doubt that's it. They also both happen far into the whole cinematic.
edit: BTW If the event in the hospital is an escape situation, what if..., Mantis is actually helping Big Boss escape? So the giant whale is Mantis helping Big Boss somehow? If he's on your side, you can expect a lot of The Sorrow/Mantis moments (god it's so stupid that The Sorrow is Ocelot's father).
Japanese developers seem to have long forgotten the PC, right up until the Dark Souls PTDE came out for it. Still, that port is a bit of a disaster (although still the best version), so I would prefer for Japanese devs of AAA games to contract with a western publisher who can handle the porting to PC.
Obviously I don't have the numbers, but based on a sample of my steam friends I think Dark Souls PC is selling pretty well. I see real life friends playing it who I never would have expected to be interested in that game.
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