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Falifax

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At 8.45 the dude sais that he knew what was going on in the Campaign of Halo 4 without using wiki, as opposed to the campaigns of prior Halo's where he had to wiki what was going on.

What the fuck? It's the other way around brah.

Thank the Christ it was not Kovic who said that.
 

Conor 419

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SERIOUSLY? SERIOUSLY? My mind is full of all kinds of WTF at that comment. See that's a prime example of why shit will not change. 343 has plenty of morons telling them shit like that.

Just WTF.

In fairness, he's probably overstating the level of understanding. I think Halo 4's campaign can leave the player with a reasonable enough understanding of what's going on, but you'd certainly be lost on the detail.
 

Havok

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They're finally doing something with the Waypoint subsection of the Challenges menu. This week - 200 Precision Loadout Weapon kills, 7000 XP payout.

I was hoping it'd be carrying over the custom challenges from Reach, which were a cool idea. Guess not.
 

Conor 419

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They're finally doing something with the Waypoint subsection of the Challenges menu. This week - 200 Precision Loadout Weapon kills, 7000 XP payout.

I was hoping it'd be carrying over the custom challenges from Reach, which were a cool idea. Guess not.

On this note, what are the main incentives people have for levelling up in this game? I literally have had no reason to rank up after I completed my loadout, and that was achieved very quickly (within a day or so).
 
I'm sorry, but Halo Reach was the blandest looking piece of shit out of any of the Halo games art direction-wise. There's a lot of things bad about Halo 4 but graphics and are direction (for most part) aren't one of those. I'm talking mainly about campaign.

Wtf? Big post incoming.

Disclaimer: they're jpegs.

Winter Contingency:

Halo-Reach-Postcards-Winter-Contingency-012-Visegrad-Outskirts.jpg



ONI Sword Base:






Nightfall





Tip of the Spear






Long Night of Solace






Exodus




New Alexandria






The Package





The Pillar of Autumn









As you can see Halo: Reach is a mighty fine, beautiful looking game, as opposed to Halo 4. Halo 4's artstyle is making rock's shine.
 

Crazyorloco

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"These maps look like shit!"

"Why can't I download these maps?"

Lollll

p.s. I stayed away from this thread for days thinking it was a joke thread. Damn Neogaf is getting lax.

Oh and Reach looks bland compared to halo 4. It's so dull looking. Especially the Multiplayer maps.
 

Killer

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Wtf? Big post incoming.
Thank you Hollo. Couldn't put any better myself.


I'm sorry, but Halo Reach was the blandest looking piece of shit out of any of the Halo games art direction-wise. There's a lot of things bad about Halo 4 but graphics and are direction (for most part) aren't one of those. I'm talking mainly about campaign.

Go ahead and point THE SHITTY art direction.

Yes, you are sorry.
 

Omni

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Oh and Reach looks bland compared to halo 4. It's so dull looking. Especially the Multiplayer maps.
Vanilla maps maybe. The DLC in Reach was miles ahead though
Bungie really outdid themselves with Breakpoint, IMO. Amazing

Hey guys check this out.

You ready for this?

Both games look great and have stellar art direction. Both games have their visual strengths and weaknesses. Crazy, I know.
lol
 
Hey guys check this out.

You ready for this?

Both games look great and have stellar art direction. Both games have their visual strengths and weaknesses. Crazy, I know.
 
Lollll

p.s. I stayed away from this thread for days thinking it was a joke thread. Damn Neogaf is getting lax.

Oh and Reach looks bland compared to halo 4. It's so dull looking. Especially the Multiplayer maps.

I'm still not convinced it's not a joke thread. Anyways, is the map pack up yet for people that bought the season pass?
 
You know, I am surprised 343i took this many chances with Halo 4 considering the nextbox will rely on the Halo franchise heavily. Would the game not sold as well without the CoD crap?

Good job 343i, you pretty much just pissed 10 years of fans off who like me will be waiting to buy Halo again and not pre ordering. The only thing pre ordering got me was a headache.

It would be so much better if they were at least communicating, "Hey, we hear you guys and we will have something for the fans."
 

Havok

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I haven't played Wreckage yet. I played Shatter Infinity Slayer. Still a DMR pingfest since it's a large map, Mantis is overly important and was untouchable for a while. Did manage to kill it and get that achievement. Might get better with time and better gametypes (not slayer, for one).

Harvest seems like a pretty good CTF map, I had a nice 2-1 game on it just now with a close final cap in the last 20 seconds. Unfortunately, new CTF is still kind of bland. Map seems good, though.

On this note, what are the main incentives people have for levelling up in this game? I literally have had no reason to rank up after I completed my loadout, and that was achieved very quickly (within a day or so).
I would not want them to lock up any more gameplay shit behind the progression system. It's bad enough as it is. Just let people wave their e-dicks around about some dumb number they got for sitting on a couch for days at a time, I don't care. Filling bars for the purpose of filling bars.
 

Havok

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Wreckage seems like it's better than it looks (after a quick Forge flythrough) in terms of symmetry and giving each team a fair shot, though Red still appears to have a base advantage.

Also, Crimson DLC matchmaking is specified in each achievement's description. No custom games (I tried both mancannon ones and neither worked). Boosting lobbies confirmed.

Also also, Halo is not fun when half of your shitty team sits in the base crouching with ARs because the developer put in a challenge for Automatic Weapon Kills. This is a lesson that should have been learned by now.
 

Crazyorloco

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I'm still not convinced it's not a joke thread. Anyways, is the map pack up yet for people that bought the season pass?

Yeah, I feel the original post sets the tone for the whole thread. It's disappointing to see stuff like this here.

But no maps for me yet. I hope it's released not too late today.
 

raindoc

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Also also, Halo is not fun when half of your shitty team sits in the base crouching with ARs because the developer put in a challenge for Automatic Weapon Kills. This is a lesson that should have been learned by now.

same for the "win x games in a certain game mode" challenges. all it does is make people that don't give a shit about said game mode camp and hope that the rest of the team wins the game for them.
don't make it "win 9 CTF games", make it "capture 9 flags" for god's sake! it's as if the guys making up challenges never played online matchmaking with randoms.
 
Fixed that for you :)

Good point. I think the lack of campaign theater is because Halo 4 is no longer a sandbox game really. Supposedly the biggest Halo 4 map is 'reclaimer' (the one with the yellow rocks). That whole map is surrounded by rocks and there is no way of looking behind them, while previous Halo's were a huge sandbox with actual geometry in the distances.

Have you guys ever seen how a phantom enters a map in spartan ops? It's laughable. They're basically a dot that zoomes itself in and suddently it's there. You could see phantoms in prior Halo's coming from miles out of the map.
 
Good point. I think the lack of campaign theater is because Halo 4 is no longer a sandbox game really. Supposedly the biggest Halo 4 map is 'reclaimer' (the one with the yellow rocks). That whole map is surrounded by rocks and there is no way of looking behind them, while previous Halo's were a huge sandbox with actual geometry in the distances.

Have you guys ever seen how a phantom enters a map in spartan ops? It's laughable. They're basically a dot that zoomes itself in and suddently it's there. You could see phantoms in prior Halo's coming from miles out of the map.
Reach had the ugly zoom illusion fail as well.
 

Havok

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same for the "win x games in a certain game mode" challenges. all it does is make people that don't give a shit about said game mode camp and hope that the rest of the team wins the game for them.
don't make it "win 9 CTF games", make it "capture 9 flags" for god's sake! it's as if the guys making up challenges never played online matchmaking with randoms.
The bolded doesn't work for a different reason - assholes would be falling over each other to betray the carrier and capture the flag themselves. You've got to make challenges very broad or else it'll cause players to change their behavior solely to earn the reward, often to the detriment of the team. "Earn 50 medals in a CTF game" or something, all playstyles are rewarded. Even then, I'd rather they avoid specifying which gametype you need to be playing entirely so that you're not locking people out of XP if they hate the playlist in question.
 
Halo Waypoint now lists 3 more bits of Intel to find. The unlocks are a new set of the Raider gear with different skins. Glyphs plus in-game requirements too.

Cool to see them expanding that.
 

IHaveIce

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I say wait until 343i says something about how to download it or if someone here on HaloGaf finds out how.

yeah but that is again dumb as hell that we have to wait, I mean for you guys in the US it is okay, it is in the morning, but here in Europe we have already afternoon :(


Hope it is fixed soon
 
Well damn.. I hope they get something going by the time I get online after work.

It's really disappointing. Not that I'm surprised since we've had a lack of responses when it comes to some of the games problems, but you'd figure we'd be able to get the maps the same time as everyone else, since we paid early without even knowing what the maps look like.

Guess not.

i'm confused on what the in-game store is supposed to be. Says don't go to the xbox live marketplace. Go to the ingame store. Well in game, it says xbox live market place :p

Well you have the Main Menu marketplace, when you first press start, which shows some gamer pictures, avatars items, and some themes.

Then you have the DLC playlist marketplace which is accessed by selecting the DLC playlist. That has pretty much everything on the dash including the crimson mappack for 800 MSP, but no option to download it for free if you've already paid.

Then you can goto custom games, and the three maps will be there with a little download icon next to them. Click on one of the maps and you get the same marketplace as the one on the main menu.

*shrugs*
 

Plywood

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My heart goes out to the people who in good faith believed there would be no issue with the map pass and that they would be receiving their content on the day of release for having in good will given their money to the Microsoft Corporation. I hope the issue that should not even have occurred is resolved quickly and that it is not resolved via emailing codes because that would be a blunder.
 
I see where you are coming from - and I agree to an extent. People like frankie, David Ellis, Bs angel have been nothing but helpful - the problem is that they are not developers. There is no feedback from people who are designing the game - which is frustrating.

At this point most people have given up - I don't think people really think there is a hope in hell that halo is coming back and because there is no dialogue with 343 they have just started bitching. I doubt the thread would be like this if there was Dev feedback going on.

It's been like this for months - 343 didn't even clarify stuff like pre-order incentives on its own site and now people in Europe are screwed because specialisations where a pre-order bonus. Now why wasn't that information put up pre-release?

I don't expect 343 to read every forum post - and I can see why you are saying they will ignore them based on the general tone around the net - the thing is - by doing so they will be treating all the forum posters thr same - and that would be foolish in itself - would you ignore Karl's and ghaleons posts just because the other posts are overly negative?

I think that after seeing the general tone of the community, devs would just stop visiting that particular community. A few bad apples spoil the bunch etc.

Got to agree. Halo 4 is like babies first animals book compared to the Womens erotica that is Reach

To be honest, I have no idea what this analogy means.
 

willow ve

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My heart goes out to the people who in good faith believed there would be no issue with the map pass and that they would be receiving their content on the day of release for having in good will given their money to the Microsoft Corporation. I hope the issue that should not even have occurred is resolved quickly and that it is not resolved via emailing codes because that would be a blunder.

Yep. To be fair the map pass purchase should have gotten the download a week before the regular DLC went on sale. More incentive to buy the whole thing at once and it follows the leader of premium services as in BF3.
 

Killer

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Yep. To be fair the map pass purchase should have gotten the download a week before the regular DLC went on sale. More incentive to buy the whole thing at once and it follows the leader of premium services as in BF3.

They follow the wrong leader, CoD.
 
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