ScraftyDevil
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Please don't start this. I'd like to keep my sanity intact for the big reveal.
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Important new Pokemon announcement coming on Jan 8 [Up: Hyped By NA Twitter]
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Please don't start this. I'd like to keep my sanity intact for the big reveal.
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Deleted member 17706
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NOA hasn't tweeted anything.
Since multiple time zones are saying January 8th, I wonder if the announcement is going to happen at the same time in multiple regions simultaneously, or if it will go live for each region at their respective xx:xx time on January 8th.
viciouskillersquirrel
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If your in-game team doesn't include a 'mon that learns Strength, you can't use it to face Red in HGSS, the most powerful trainer in the game. Instead, you're swapping out one of your team for an HM slave, which can cripple you.
It's annoying and the time spent at your PC swapping out 'mons is time spent not playing the game. There are better ways to cordon off sections of the game and GF are clinging to the mechanic out of tradition at this point.
They really should merge the two teams into one and let the remake guys handle the UI. After HG/SS, I trust them for that much.
*twitch*
Retire Ash? Never! It makes perfect sense for him to forever remain inexperienced every time he goes to a new region of the Pokemon world. I mean he's only been doing this since 97`-98`! The refusal on their part to allow him to grow up and achieve his dream of being a pokemon master still boggles my mind to this day. That pikachu is like level 600 by now...
Honestly it just makes sense. It been forever since they did a new type.
If they want to do it at the same time worldwide, there's such a neat way to do it:
Nintendo Direct!
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Being able to drag and drop from the box into your team on the one screen was an excellent touch.
Then BW went backwards :-/
Bottom line - make everything in the menus touch-driven and for heaven's sake, be consistent!
ScraftyDevil
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I'm not arguing that it wouldn't make sense, but can you think of any good Pokémon who could fit into the "Light" category? Whenever people start suggesting Light as a type, it usually devolves into a big argument that puts everyone in a sour mood, so I'd just like to avoid it if possible.
Nice, alright then.
But Dialga isn't a robot.
I was thinking of something like Genesect.The only reason they added the two types in Gen II was to balance out Psychic, which was an unstoppable beast at the time. It took years for Steel and Dark to live up to their purpose, and it took another major mechanics change, the physical/special split in Gen IV, before they could effectively police it. They've stated several times in interviews that they don't want to introduce a new type just because of all the rebalancing it would take.
Plus Dark already has a "light" counterpart in Fighting.
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Deleted member 17706
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As far as I can tell, no official Nintendo source has said a word about this in any region.
PorygonVandal
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It's not gonna be cool if Gen VI is announced.... I mean, we haven't got all Pokémon for Gen V... Meloetta is missing in the rest of the world....
A special Pikachu-yellow themed Nintendo Direct...or just call it Pokèmon Direct, for the heck of it!
Not so serious, but I think they could actually drop a Pokèmon Direct in the next future, even a Chotto Direct
It has tufts of hair on its head, arms, and a decidedly un-duck-like tail. And it can't fly. The platypus Pokémon has been right under your
EDIT: Moves with 'light' attributes are either Psychic or Steel. For example, Luster Purge and Flash Cannon.
Raikou is a cat, no doubt, but more like a sabre-toothed tiger.
I'm glad I finally have a Fire/Dragon type in Reshiram, waited AGES for that typing, though I hope it's expanded.
I hope with the fossils they finally have a proper badass therapod.
Rock/Fire Tyrannosaurus Rex, with a ring of fire representing a crown in the evolution.
I don't care about 4x water weakness, I just care about more fire types on a whole and more dino pogeymanz.
I'm glad I finally have a Fire/Dragon type in Reshiram, waited AGES for that typing, though I hope it's expanded.
I hope with the fossils they finally have a proper badass therapod.
Rock/Fire Tyrannosaurus Rex, with a ring of fire representing a crown in the evolution.
I don't care about 4x water weakness, I just care about more fire types on a whole and more dino pogeymanz.
They should just release a new type and then in Generation VII they should balance it by released two more.
viciouskillersquirrel
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There was an easy fix to nerfing Psychic - make some decent Bug-type and Ghost-type Pokémon and give them some decent moves. In Gen 1, Leech Life was the only stat-based damage dealing Bug move and Lick was the only equivalent on the Ghost side of things. Give each type a Flamethrower/Surf/Ice Beam/Thunderbolt equivalent and tweak type resistances a but and the Psychc domination all but disappeared.
Dark and Steel were never required.
I'm always in favor of significant changes to the battle system. Whether that be new types, changed types, new strategic options or anything else. Really they need to change the feel of the games, they've been tacking on features for 15 years. They need some newness on a fundamental level, not just a cosmetic one.
ScraftyDevil
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Yes, they were. Nothing resisted Psychic until they came along.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Make bug and electric resistant to psychic. Bam!
Weren't Pin Missile and Twin Needle stat based bug moves? I know they weren't very common though.
Squirrel's saying they could've tweaked existing types to add Psychic resistances.
Still, I've no problem with Steel and Dark. I think the way things have worked out, the types are achieving something akin to a good balance.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Dark is my favourite type. I don't know where my favourite Pokémon would be without it D:
They really need need to give ice Pokemon Dragon resistance, and give water another weakness. Perhaps remove ice moves from water Pokemon too since it kinda takes away what little Ice has. Either way, there is still a lot of balancing that needs to be done.
ZeroGravity
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Even if it's Gen VI, it's not like it's coming out here until like 2014. Got plenty of time.
sorijealut
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New Pokemon snacks will be released worldwide!
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
You're right, but like Leech Life and Lick, they too were weaksauce. Plus the hit/miss roll that would happen on each consecutive attack made them way too unreliable for my taste.
I don't have an issue with Dark and Steel existing, but I'm arguing that they weren't actually required.
Really, I'm just mad that Bug never got a resistance to Psychic and the Bug moves are still getting the short end of the stick, a decade and a half later. Kids have been born, grew up, became fans of Pokemon and rejected it in a misplaced teenage aversion to childish things in that time.
ColtraineGF
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TOO BAD!
i'd only accept that if you give me another modern series that plays similar. by virtue of being the same, there's nothing like Pokemon right now. nothing at all.
things to expect from gen VI: a move to full 3D, different sound samples (don't expect orchestra, it's not happening and would not fit the series) and maybe better online.
viciouskillersquirrel
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It would've been an option, but adding the super resistant Steel type opened up the possibility of defensive play, and with an extra Dragon resistance in-game they were able to add more Dragon moves and Pokemon. Dark gave Fighting a new lease on life, since it formed another elemental triad with Psychic and gave more reason to include Bug coverage, and give another counter to Ghost now that its effectiveness on Psychic was unbugged.
There were a lot of ways to immediately fix Psychic, but adding the two types brought balance and more options to the game and kept some consistency with Gen I, so that nobody had to re-learn the game.
pokegaf and I never agree it seems.
Yep, I think that another type resisting dragons must appear.
If we're talking about types, I still don't get what's going on with poison. Poison should be one of the best types in the game yet it's easily the worst.
Being poisoned should cut special attack in half (just get rid of toxic poison), AND have a chance to make them flinch (like being paralyzed both cuts speed and flinches). Poison should be super effective on psychic, and not the other way around. Poison attacks should have as much chance to paralyze as they do to poison, and at least some of them should have a chance to burn. And why the HELL is steel immune, that stuff's just freaking soy sauce. On fighting types, poison should cut defense in half instead of special attack.
Poison should be NVE on water, bug and rock, and immune to poison. Then the new age of poison ruling the metagame will rise.
Being poisoned should cut special attack in half (just get rid of toxic poison), AND have a chance to make them flinch (like being paralyzed both cuts speed and flinches). Poison should be super effective on psychic, and not the other way around. Poison attacks should have as much chance to paralyze as they do to poison, and at least some of them should have a chance to burn. And why the HELL is steel immune, that stuff's just freaking soy sauce. On fighting types, poison should cut defense in half instead of special attack.
Poison should be NVE on water, bug and rock, and immune to poison. Then the new age of poison ruling the metagame will rise.
it's just the last of a genre that has evolved into different places. it's particular sub-genre has very little representation these days. if i want to play something like Pokemon, there's no choices. there are no modern, simple, turn based JRPGs out there. if they kill it and move onto "grander" things, that's it. it's gone. nothin' more to play like it. no turnin' back the clock.
edit: you aren't wrong for wanting what you do, and you should continue to discuss said opinions. i'm just always going to be ultra-defensive of losing something forever, especially game genres & subgenres.
MisterHero
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The rumor sounds neat. If the versions have greater amounts of exclusives, I'd rather they just base the different versions on different regions.
Pokemon Gen VI - Kanto/Johto version, Hoenn Version, Sinnoh Version,
version
Of course, sales might strongly bias one version over the others
Pokemon Gen VI - Kanto/Johto version, Hoenn Version, Sinnoh Version,
Rumored Spacebase
Of course, sales might strongly bias one version over the others
Kanto/Johto lol
I've always thought that poison should be SE on water. Liquid poison would spread quickly within it. Toxic destroys water stalling so it already kind of is.
electroplankton
Banned
What's happening during the TV show?
But it's more like, the poison will be diluted and not nearly as effective as it would on a normal Pokemon.
Obviously there are types of poison out there that will have all kinds of nasty chemical effects on the water and kill the Pokemon on the spot, but then we're getting ahead of ourselves.
But you're right, that's too unfair to poison. To make up for it, being poisoned should cut both special attack and defense.
ScraftyDevil
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Where's my Unova version?
Also, I'm pretty sure that the most popular version would be Sinnoh, since that's what most of the current target audience started on.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Magnemite and its evolutions switching types and Alakazam getting its stats nerfed were pretty basic changes.
This discussion makes me think that as much as I loved Gen 1, damn those games were an unholy, buggy, unbalanced mess. Between dual types not getting their resistances/weaknesses displayed properly in battle, the Ghost/Psychic resistance thing and the severe lack of Ice/Bug/Ghost type 'mons/moves, they really needed some deep fixes.
it wasn't until the last few gens that Ghosts finally started moving into their "own" place. we've gotten a bunch of really cool, unique designs.
viciouskillersquirrel
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I can agree with that. Poison hitting water for 2x would also help fix water types.
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