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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2012 (Dec 17 - Dec 23)

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lunchwithyuzo

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NOE seems especially screwed, Europe's the one market that can't default to a sizable Nintendo core base. Which is probably in part why Wii U's doing worst there.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
lunchwithyuzo said:
NOE seems especially screwed, Europe's the one market that can't default to a sizable Nintendo core base. Which is probably in part why Wii U's doing worst there.
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Again, what's the evidence to back up the statement that Wii U is faring worse in Europe than elsewhere?
As far as I know we haven't had any official numbers, unless you have some insiders' informations.
 
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lunchwithyuzo

Banned
Gianni Merryman said:
Again, what's the evidence to back up the statement that Wii U is faring worse in Europe than elsewhere?
As far as I know we haven't had any official numbers, unless you have some insiders' informations.
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Well, UK's a confirmed bomb and Germany seems to be iffy. France will probably go better, but things are looking grim from what we know, that's all.
 
M

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Chris1964 said:
If NoE is representative of Nintendo's way of thinking their biggest problem right now is that they refuse to admit there is a problem.
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I've seen more propension to advertise in many ways 3DS ( bundles, Pikachu model, Club Nintendo offer, etc.etc.) than Wii U (that infomercial) in Europe, I don't understand why the treatement has been so different.
 
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extralite

Member
Vinnk said:
But that game alone is not enough. Or not enough at the price the system is selling for.
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I think this is exactly the problem. I don't know what representatives at Sony or Nintendo mean when they say they learned from PS3/3DS and they probably don't know either.

Selling Wii U on the strength of 2D Mario MIGHT have worked (not fully convinced) at a lower price but you can't release a more expensive console to a casual audience not even eager to transition to a new hardware and expect them to eat it up, especially since the Wii had slowed down so much years ago already.

Nintendo better hope DQX will see growth over the Wii version, something not many here even expect to happen. But the U really needs DQX to succeed. After that it's only MH which could serve as an umbrella for later games.

Do we know anything about sales of previously rented games from Tsutaya? Did that breath any life into the Wii version sales at all, I wonder.
 
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Diablos54

Member
extralite said:
Nintendo better hope DQX will see growth over the Wii version, something not many here even expect to happen. But the U really needs DQX to succeed. After that it's only MH which could serve as an umbrella for later games.
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Sales of DQ X won't really matter IMO. If it bombs, the only thing it would effect are its chances for localization, and maybe future MMORPG support from SE (Or SE support in general). I feel most people in Japan who want it would already have it on the Wii by now anyway.
 
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electroplankton

Banned
extralite said:
I think this is exactly the problem. I don't know what representatives at Sony or Nintendo mean when they say they learned from PS3/3DS and they probably don't know either.

Selling Wii U on the strength of 2D Mario MIGHT have worked (not fully convinced) at a lower price but you can't release a more expensive console to a casual audience not even eager to transition to a new hardware and expect them to eat it up, especially since the Wii had slowed down so much years ago already.

Nintendo better hope DQX will see growth over the Wii version, something not many here even expect to happen. But the U really needs DQX to succeed. After that it's only MH which could serve as an umbrella for later games.

Do we know anything about sales of previously rented games from Tsutaya? Did that breath any life into the Wii version sales at all, I wonder.
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I think they learnt from 3DS to build a better launch line-up; having Mario and Monster Hunter is quite a big deal, and indeed it worked. What they didn't learn is how to manage the first months after the launch. You cannot leave January completely empty; release Game & Wario at the beginning of the month and Wii Fit U and the end of the month, for example.

But this problem seems quite common, I don't remember any recent platform having a solid line-up in the first months. 3DS had something, but many games were delayed because of the earthquake. Vita had a lot of games, but they released all of them the launch day.
 
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Gianni Merryman

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Diablos54 said:
If it bombs, the only thing it would effect are its chances for localization
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Frankly, I think they may have already made their minds up whether to bring it outside of Japan since they skipped Wii's version.

Imo much depends upon whether they're willing to make online play free of subscription fees, and who's paying for localizations/advertising costs.
 
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Gianni Merryman

Member
Diablos54 said:
I don't think that really says much, why release a MMO on a dying/dead system?
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Exactly, that's why back in the day I was one of those predicting DQX would have ended up on Wii U, so when they failed to announce Wii's version outside of Japan some of us thought the Wii U version may have come later on instead.
 
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Vinnk

Member
extralite said:
Do we know anything about sales of previously rented games from Tsutaya? Did that breath any life into the Wii version sales at all, I wonder.
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Unless I missed some news (very possible). Tsutaya does not do game rental. And game rental in Japan is technically against the law. Or was it some special promotion?
 
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AzaK

Member
schuelma said:
Yeah I would say tepid at best would be fair to describe launch.

The baffling thing to me is Nintendo apparently thought they were fine and dandy since supposed launch window software is not dated or already slipping (Pikmin).

I do think Japan is going to prove to be by far their strongest region, at least initially...but worldwide things look rough short term.
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I dunno but I feel that in this deflated economy Nintendo needed to rely on the enthusiast gamer but apart from Japan they seem to have all but abandoned them.
lunchwithyuzo said:
For that to happen they'll need to start nailing down dates and announcing 3rd party games.
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Thing is we know they don't announce until within about 6 months of release and there is almost nothing 'core' announced for the first half of the year.
 
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Striek

Member
3DS 　266790
PSP 　34145
Vita 　18022
Wii 　8094
Wii U 　76760
PS3 54107
Xbox 360 　2283
 
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Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
Last year, 3DS did 190k in Week 52. Yes, Week 52 2012 > Week 52 2011.
 
W

watershed

Banned
I think Wii U is gonna have a few rough months to start the new year. Nintendo needs to do another Nintendo Direct chocked full of announcements or else they'll be looking at another 3ds launch situation.

AC and Fantasy Life doing well! I'm excited for both to come stateside.
 
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Joseph Flemming

Member
Impressive Animal Crossing NL, NSMB2, and 3DS sales. Good showing for fantasy life!

I'm not surprised by WiiU drop, Nintendo better have a direct soon with game announcements if they are holding back. PSP showing Vita how its done.
Vita....
 
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urfe

Member
Wow, good for Fantasy Life.

WiiU numbers aren't as good as I hoped, but NSMBU and Nintendoland I think are great considering.

Also, NSMB2 is a few hundred copies away from passing SML3D.
 
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crinale

Member
I wouldn't be surprised if WiiU goes below PS3 next week.
There are just tons of WiiU sitting around every game store in Japan.
 
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