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[duckroll]

Do you think they will sell 100,000 copies?

If they literally just ship it to market right now, that's about all they'd have to sell to make their money back.

Are you sure? What sort of cut is SPS getting out of this? How much more would have to be spent marketing and distributing the game? Or even finishing it. I suspect there were conditions which led to Ubisoft being the sole bidder, and at such a low cost.

I agree it's a complete steal for Ubisoft, but I also think there might be reasons they were unchallenged.

 

[Kusagari]

I wonder if nobody else bothered with South Park because of the mess with South Park Studios trying to block the rights shifting.

 

[Hindle]

We should get more details on South Park now this has been dealt with. Hopefully a firm release date as well.

 

[KongRudi]

I don't know, I hope it is. I've always felt the engine would come into its own next gen. the destruction tech was some of the best I've ever seen in any game.

That PDF-file mentions some work on Saints Row 4 by High Voltage Software, were part of the assets wich went to Deep Silver/Koch Media. I think.
So I would assume most of the assets intended for SR4 also went in the deal

 

[rdrr gnr]

Well, the fanbase is pretty large for South Park. But I wonder what the % of that plays video games.

A huge percentage. What's SP's demographic 18-24? If the game is solid (80+) it'll make a nice profit no problem.

 

[Totobeni]

$3 million for South Park is a complete steal for Ubisoft.

yeah.

and your average SSS game that can't even sell copies as much as Saints Row costs more than $20 millions to make, Deep Silver is the clear winner of today.

 

[~Kinggi~]

Fucking paying obscenely more money for Saints Row sounds like a real Saints Row thing to do, i love that Koch.

 

[Nirolak]

Are you sure? What sort of cut is SPS getting out of this? How much more would have to be spent marketing and distributing the game? Or even finishing it. I suspect there were conditions which led to Ubisoft being the sole bidder, and at such a low cost.

I agree it's a complete steal for Ubisoft, but I also think there might be reasons they were unchallenged.

They required a certain amount of capital to be spent marketing it to not object, yeah.

And given the 2 million break even point for THQ, I'm suspecting it's a huge cut for Viacom.

But even with all that, I think at the point Ubisoft bought it, it's still worth it, since you likely sliced off $10-$15+ million off the dev budget.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Wow, 3 mil for one game? Glad its still releasing though, thanks Ubi!

That is stupid cheap, especially when Metro gets $5m

They required a certain amount of capital to be spent marketing it to not object, yeah.

And given the 2 million break even point for THQ, I'm suspecting it's a huge cut for Viacom.

But even with all that, I think at the point Ubisoft bought it, it's still worth it, since you likely sliced off $10-$15+ million off the dev budget.

But isn't 2m typical for the average AAA game? Or can we assume it should be cheaper as it's being developed by an independent developer?

 

[Rlan]

I'd really be interested to see is if 5TH Cell can grab the Drawn To Life and Lock's Quest licenses from the THQ sale. Perfect mobile games!

 

[duckroll]

They required a certain amount of capital to be spent marketing it to not object, yeah.

And given the 2 million break even point for THQ, I'm suspecting it's a huge cut for Viacom.

But even with all that, I think at the point Ubisoft bought it, it's still worth it, since you likely sliced off $10-$15+ million off the dev budget.

Well it's certainly a good deal, I just don't think it's something that Ubisoft will make back by just selling 100,000 copies.

 

[DocSeuss]

Can someone clarify. Is Volition Montreal the same studio that was making 1666? Are Underdog and 1666 the same thing?

Off the top of my head (which, admittedly, isn't the wisest choice as it's early here and this thread has been keeping me up ), the only IP I don't want to see locked up in legal limbo is Homeworld. The rest I can take or leave.

Even Impossible Creatures? I've always had a soft spot in my heart for that game. It was so cool, despite the fact that the free 1.1 expansion doesn't work on some modern systems. It was also another Relic game.

But everything else I can take or leave.

 

[Dakota47]

For me, today's silver lining is that the developers of my two favorite strategy franchises are now under the same roof.

Good luck to all those involved.

 

[Totobeni]

I'd really be interested to see is if 5TH Cell can grab the Drawn To Life and Lock's Quest licenses from the THQ sale. Perfect mobile games!

Doubt it,when it's legacy IPs selling time, it will be very hard for small developers to buy anything since big publishers will get as many IPs possible even if they don't really want to make games out of them.

 

[Kane Zakharov]

So, Is Darksiders officially dead?

 

[jbug617]

So, Is Darksiders officially dead?

There was a shimmer on a slither of hope, that at one point, there'd be a Darksiders III: 4 Player Co-Op; It rode off into the sunset today.

https://twitter.com/haydndalton/status/294233068477243395

 

[Kane Zakharov]

https://twitter.com/haydndalton/status/294233068477243395

Well this just ruined my day .

R.I.P. Vigil Games.

 

[Nirolak]

Well it's certainly a good deal, I just don't think it's something that Ubisoft will make back by just selling 100,000 copies.

Right, I meant that conceptually to generate that much profit, were it a finished product, that's about what they'd have to sell.

It has a few months left though so I'd suspect it's more in the 500,000-750,000 range unless they're going very heavy on marketing relative to dev costs.

 

[BY2K]

https://twitter.com/haydndalton/status/294233068477243395

Fuck...

FUCK!

 

[Kifimbo]

Can someone clarify. Is Volition Montreal the same studio that was making 1666? Are Underdog and 1666 the same thing?

Studio is the same, but Volition MTL is likely a second team in Montreal. Volition MTL was at least helping on Saints Row 4. And it looks like 1666 and Underdog are different games.

 

[duckroll]

Can someone clarify. Is Volition Montreal the same studio that was making 1666? Are Underdog and 1666 the same thing?

I think Volition Montreal is a team inside THQ Montreal but not the same one working on 1666. Underdog and 1666 are two different games. THQ Montreal employs over 400 people I believe.

 

[Kifimbo]

THQ Montreal employs over 400 people I believe.

Nah, the goal was 400 in 2015. They didn't reach it, not even close.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/10/thqs-new-prez-stands-behind-montreal-studio-though-there-may/

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

I hope Vigil's talent re-emerges as another studio someday.

 

[duckroll]

Nah, the goal was 400 in 2015. They didn't reach it, not even close.

How many do they have right now?

 

[StalkerUKCG]

DS3 4 Player Co-Op sounds amazing

RIP

 

[SlickVic]

Don't know what to think of Deep Silver, but at the very least, glad Volition can keep making Saints Row games. Just hope it all works out.

 

[Kifimbo]

How many do they have right now?

~180.

 

[JehutyRunner]

Apparently (via V_Ben from here on Twitter), Platinum's Atushi Inaba wants to buy the Darksiders IP!

Link.

I'm not fluent on Japanese, I'm just going off Ben for now, so might be best to have this translated.

 

[BY2K]

Apparently (via V_Ben from here on Twitter), Platinum's Atushi Inaba wants to buy the Darksiders IP!

Link.

I'm not fluent on Japanese, I'm just going off Ben for now, so might be best to have this translated.

Do it do it do it do it do it do it do it!

 

[Kane Zakharov]

Apparently (via V_Ben from here on Twitter), Platinum's Atushi Inaba wants to buy the Darksiders IP!

Link.

I'm not fluent on Japanese, I'm just going off Ben for now, so might be best to have this translated.

I really do hope anyone buys the Darksiders IP at this point. I really want to see more of the franchise.

 

[Derrick01]

$3 million for South Park is a complete steal for Ubisoft.

Didn't THQ pay more than that just for the license?

https://twitter.com/haydndalton/status/294233068477243395

Thank god in that case. After what they did to the franchise with 2, shaming it even more with co-op would have been too much.

 

[duckroll]

~180.

That's better than I expected. I thought Ubisoft was buying a huge bloated ship to add to their blob. Lol.

Apparently (via V_Ben from here on Twitter), Platinum's Atushi Inaba wants to buy the Darksiders IP!

Link.

I'm not fluent on Japanese, I'm just going off Ben for now, so might be best to have this translated.

I wouldn't take a tweet like that seriously. It sounds like a wishful thinking and commentary on the situation. He's saying that he can't believe that no one bought Darksiders after THQ went through a piecemeal sale. He says he'll like to buy it because it seems so cheap, but that seems more like a comment to me than actual intent.

Maybe we'll find out when they go through the Chapter 11 stuff.

 

[ksdixon]

How long do I have before the 'Community Creations' servers for WWE 13 go offline? I need to grab all the created wrestlers I will ever need.

 

[Wes]

Does a Relic under Sega ownership increase the chances of seeing a Homeworld 3 in the near future at all?

 

[BobTheFork]

The 4 player co-op Darksiders should have been Darksiders 2

 

[Lime]

Does a Relic under Sega ownership increase the chances of seeing a Homeworld 3 in the near future at all?

1. Sega only bought the Company of Heroes IP. They would have to pick up the Homeworld IP outside of this auction. Until then Homeworld is an inactive license.
2. Sega are already funding a Creative Assembly Warhammer game. It is likely that Relic will continue doing W40K games simultaneously.
3. Almost no one is left from the original Homeworld team. Homeworld 3 would never be the same as the originals.
4. The industry has changed. RTS, especially space RTS, aren't (usually) financially viable any longer. :'(
5. If the Homeworld IP is not picked up by anyone, hold dear to your physical copies of HW1 and HW2, because then you won't see any (commercial) digital distribution of them. It will become System Shock 2.

 

[Keysersoze]

The 4 player co-op Darksiders should have been Darksiders 2

This. A million times this.

 

[Tempy]

Didn't THQ pay more than that just for the license?



Thank god in that case. After what they did to the franchise with 2, shaming it even more with co-op would have been too much.

Co-op is a bad thing now?

 

[Concept17]

a Vigil dev just posted in the Vigil thread

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46817540&postcount=325

Good luck Soldier

*goes to buy darksiders*

 

[tamaster92]

Any official comments on the volition sale yet?

Still seems weird to me that someone bigger didn't grab them

 

[Kifimbo]

Do we have any idea when "Part 2" will happen ? Where/When the Legacy IPs will be sold (auctioned) ?

 

[Sinatar]

*goes to buy darksiders*

Little late on that dontcha think.

 

[CosmicQueso]

Co-op is a bad thing now?

Co-op used to be cool, but then everyone started doing it and now it sucks. I liked co-op before it got popular.

 

[Bladenic]

So crazy that Vigil was passed on. RIP.

 

[Almighty]

Any official comments on the volition sale yet?

Still seems weird to me that someone bigger didn't grab them

From Koch Media I don't think so yet. Some one did post a newspaper article with someone from Volition who did the normal PR "We've met with them a little and are happy to be working together" quote.

Anyways seems to me people might of overestimated the interest in Saint's Row. I admit it also caught me a little off guard that it was Relic and not Volition that had the the highest sale price. Even more interesting when both Sega and Bethesda were within 300k of each other and the runner up for Volition was Ubisoft at $5.4 million compared to the $22 million Koch put up.

 

[Jibbajabbawockky]

Little late on that dontcha think.

Not late in terms of simply being able to find and buy it digitally online. Over in the Amazon deals thread, somebody posted a message from Tony saying how its not clear how much longer THQ games will be up on Amazon once rights switch with certain games, especially for Vigil.

So if you don't have Darksiders or Darksiders 2 and were even remotely thinking of picking it up in the near future, might not be a bad idea to get it now.

 

[Deleted member 102362]

So Metro should be OK, then? phew.

 

[TimHortons]

Koch Media, never heard of em so checked out the wiki that was posted on the 1st page. This jumped out at me.

2007: To date, 1 million copies of the successful series The King of Queens have been sold on DVD and Blu-ray in the German-speaking territory

What the hell Germany...

 

[Derrick01]

Co-op is a bad thing now?

It's worse than MP as far as ruining a SP game goes.

 

[rvy]

Fuck...

FUCK!

Well this just ruined my day .

R.I.P. Vigil Games.

Everybody chill the fuck out.