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Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4) announced, launch title [1080p/30fps]
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Wouldn't 60FPS give advantage in MP due to halved input lag?
EDIT that gif above, gotta admit the thing looks pretty. Too bad gameplay looked really lame, the standard shooter experience.
So the thing just runs at lower resolution... with extra AA or something like that?
Don't have any 1080p games on 360 so i have no idea how such would look on my "720p" TV.
Stallion Free
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Most "720p" tvs aren't native 720p, but a little higher. And just like how the PS3 has multiple resolutions it can default to (480p/720p), the PS4 will probably too.
It's an assumption based off a few things:
- The game has been in development for 2 years (BruceLeeRoy)
- The segment shown would be undoubtedly pre-alpha footage hence the older code given how playable this vertical slice was.
- Expect more changes by the time it goes gold (looking how KZ2 went through visual revisions from the time of E3 2007 till its release).
- The very recent update to 8GB (realistically over 3.5GB for games) being announced and ND's own showing surprise (GopherD).
I may well be incorrect but I am joining the dots.
This is really the best direction they could have gone given the ending of Killzone 3. It seems like the most interesting premise in the series history.
Man it looks beautiful and 1080p at 30 makes me so excited (I'll eat my crow). I literally NEED a ps4, but not for this game. I never really liked the controls of killzone and never understood it's appeal even though I beat the first iteration. Why do you guys like it? Just the eye candy?
Dead Prince
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but does the ps4 have proper scaling? we will see.
SniperHunter
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Killzone isnt boring. Its a good 7/10 series and yes i play a lot of pc shooters too
Stallion Free
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Running at 480p this gen didn't any additional AA so I wouldn't expect 720p to be treated any different this gen. It will likely be forgotten about the way 480p was this gen as the vast majority of recent TVs are native 1080p.
all it has to do is look beautiful and play decently, being a launch game. i'm betting it will be a huge hit at launch.
This game runs at 1080p, what do you need scaling for.
The PS4 has some sort of scalar chip in it anyway.
Well, as long as things work on 720p, i won't really care. Getting a new TV is very, very low on my list of priorities, since the current one works just fine.
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Deleted member 47027
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Some scenes looked like 60fps...Oh well.
Yeah, but you could get 60fps in some metal gear games if you walked into a corner and looked at nothing. or in dynasty warriors if you ran away from all the enemies and found a corner of a castle
RIP 60fps I love you and miss you RIP in peace
So I just woke up. This game is running at 1080p? I still remember people telling me we'd be lucky if games next gen were to run at a solid 720p and that 1080p wasn't needed and was "too expensive". Well, look who was wrong now.
If all the other games released are 1080p as well, my computer will probably rest for quite a while, I'm all right with any kind of graphics as long as the IQ is decent.
If all the other games released are 1080p as well, my computer will probably rest for quite a while, I'm all right with any kind of graphics as long as the IQ is decent.
You had to be there, but essentially, a bit before KZ2's reveal (The actual gameplay, not the CGI teaser) a screen got leaked, people were confused, and someone here shopped it in a similar way for, I assume, shits and giggles. Was quite funny.
Backfoggen
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Looks ridiculous even at this unpolished state. Hope they have the good gameplay from KZ2, KZ3 felt weird.
Ken Masters
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I'm 100% ok with FULL REAL 1080p and 30FPS
Uno Venova
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Yeshhh, my 1080p TV about to really get some shine. Everyone here had me convinced we would be getting 720 all over again.
Can't get enough of this gif. It looks better every time I see it lol.
Mesmerizing.
Same here my fellow junior-bro. I haven't even seen that trailer in decent quality yet, so I'm in high anticipation of a direct-feed 1080p trailer running this demo in its full and proper glory.
Also, for everyone else posting here: Do y'all think this section will make it into the final product because I'm under the impression this is a simply a showcase demo that was put together in a rush to make the event, but also to let us know what the story concept is.
So my question is, does GAF agree or disagree with my belief of the Shadow Fall demo an engine and story concept showcase that isn't an actual gameplay moment in the final product, and why?
If anyone was wondering.
I hate to be that guy and be killed in the demo lol
it has always been the case for killzone. i don't think it will be the case with all shooters though.
I expect early on we'll see 30fps for shooters on both the PS4 and Xbox, exceptions probably being CoD and other off beat titles. It might take new engines and/or tools from say MS to improve upon that after launch window.
StealthGoblin
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I hope the environments will be larger this time around, especially now we can climb up walls and over obstacles.
Carmack said it is inevitable.
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It's a shame too - because I love 60fps and it elevated RAGE for instance to a much higher level because of it. It FELT good to play. Feeling good to play is pretty rare for Killzone as it doesn't jive with a lot of people, myself included. I wish it was 60!
But the tradeoffs for 30 are too great.
I thought some Tennis game did this about 5 years ago or something, I can't remember.
It's a shame too - because I love 60fps and it elevated RAGE for instance to a much higher level because of it. It FELT good to play. Feeling good to play is pretty rare for Killzone as it doesn't jive with a lot of people, myself included. I wish it was 60!
But the tradeoffs for 30 are too great.
I thought some Tennis game did this about 5 years ago or something, I can't remember.
Perhaps dynamic 720p 60fps would become the new norm.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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That's what's wonderful about this series. As much as Vektans look all innocent in the first Killzone and the backstory, their counterattack proved to be far too oppressive and dominant. A few people changing the course of entire history is fascinating and reflects the real world actions that we faced in the last few centuries, with bad guys becoming good and vice versa.
From the looks of it, the nuking of Helghan planet forced Vektans to take in refugees in their own in order to look 'innocent' to the people. 30 years is a decent amount of time for a revolt. It's very Children of Men/District 9-esque and I love the idea of scifi/steampunks setting with a dystopian society within a utopian society separated by one wall.
Demos have God mode and other assists usually enabled.
ConradCervantes
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I'm sure for all these public demos they code it so they never die. The only time I've ever seen anyone die while demoing on a stage was Cammie playing NSMB Wii at E3 2009.
HueyFreeman
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There is absolutely no way something this highly evolved, and confirmed as live gameplay, would not make it in to the final product. It would be a massive waste of the devs time to build this and not use it. You might see tweaks, but anything GG has ever shown has made it into their final games (with one highly notable exception), particularly given this is a confirmed launch title, so they have less than a year to finish it.
dr_rus
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Killzones are ok as shooters but they really need to do something with their stories. I literally don't remember anything or anyone from any of Killzones I've played.
TheJollyCorner
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I'm guessing the models aren't final...?
I mean, there were some clone NPCs there (some standing right next to each other), which I fully expect to be cleaned up and individualized by release/
If you actually read the timeline, the Vektans aren't evil or in the wrong. The Helghast are certainly much worse. If you think otherwise you're not actually paying attention to the timeline. The Helghan Corporation started out by murdering thousands of innocent people to secure the contract, that's how they started. And the opression post, y'know, the Helghast corporation trying to basically strong arm and subjugate the entirety of humanity for profits? Uh, no duh. It was said that the new Vektans worked with any helghast that was willing but there were tremendous teroroist actions targeting civilians.
Jusrt because Helghast got wronged here and there doesn't mean that the ISA are 'hypocritical pussies', they're by far the better society.
All this 'rah rah Helghast!' bullshit is wishful thinking by people that like red eyes. The series will continue to show how things really are, while some people try and read tea leafs.
That helghan, after blowing up that building, just shot an innocent civilian in the head! Go Helghast you're so great!'
This bullshit is getting tiresome.
BattleMonkey
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Looks great, surprised there isn't more whiney babies about how colorful and bright it is and how they wanted it dark like KZ2
Tarin02543
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I'm ok with 30 fps. Killzone is more about vistas and art design than gameplay.
my bf4 and cod2014 will need be 60 rocksolid though.
my bf4 and cod2014 will need be 60 rocksolid though.
Killzone 3 is the worst looking entry in the post PS2 era, to be sure. Killzone 2 smokes it. Deal with it. the best looking moments of Killzone 3 are when they're emulating the harsher lighting conditions of Killzone 2, funnily enough.
My speculation on the story:
Early is involved. After what happened in KZ3. Vekta lost its main fleet. Majority of Helghast population got wiped out. Early is pissed at Vektan government because they attacked Helghan against Early's order which caused this whole mess. So as punishment to the Vektans and compensation to the Helghast, Early fleet came and moved the remaining Helghast to Vekta. The Vektan government has no choice but to accept it.
soundahfekz
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i think gamersyde has a direct feed uncompressed version
EatinOlives
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That was a stupid stance I never agreed with. Yeah, we totally weren't getting any resolution improvement from seven-year old consoles. Makes complete sense.
People were so "sure" about games staying at 720p, just like they were "sure" the console wasn't getting more than 3 GB. So much crow being eaten today it's delicious, and of course not a single "whoops, I was wrong. Mea culpa.".
Yesss, just heard that by Rein. I think it is a significant leap even when compared with the leap from PS2 to PS3. (I'm talking consoles-wise) There is enough details, fidelity, actual 1080p resolution(even though at 30fps) as a launch title for it to be a big leap.
I was hoping for one thing to happen to the new killzone game though. Having a PvP MMO game where you can pick to be an ISA or a Helghan and basically fight against each other. The Killzone universe has the potential for more than 'just another FPS SP'. Ah well.
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