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[bodyofanamerican]

DLC facts: levels have not been started or barely begun. It is not cut content. Cut content was cut because it was not good enough for game.

Ken just replied on Twitter. Seems heartening.

 

[Messofanego]

Minervas Den

But Minerva's Den was pretty awesome....

Minerva's Den.

Yo, the developers of Minerva's Den are making a house exploration adventure game set in the 90s called Gone Home. If you like fiddling with objects in a physics-y way, rotating them around, zooming in and all that, this might be for you.

Gone Home playthrough (Gamespot)

 

[Struct09]

As long as the DLC is good I'll pick it up. I'll wait until it's all released and if it's worth the price of the season pass I'll buy the season pass.

 

[see5harp]

Will rent from Gamefly and rebuy when it costs like $10 for GOTY edition on Steam.

 

[Stabby McSter]

this thread broke stuff

 

[RiccochetJ]

:/ I don't like these Season Passes. Anyone else?

I bought exactly 1 season's pass because I loved the game so much: Saint's Row 3.

...

Never again.

 

[partyphone]

this, and microtransactions, are how publishers get game prices up to $80 or $90 while still advertising that $59.99 MSRP.

 

[Gorillaz]

I have a feeling Ken will be departing from Irrational after this game launches

Yea I felt that about a year ago as well

 

[Draft]

AAA shooter is like all other AAA shooters. Make a post about it.

 

[Rapstah]

Why is this thread doing this for me?

 

[Toa TAK]

I'll pick it up soon. Probably not as soon as it's available but I am a fan of the season passes. If it's for a game that I love, I'm getting all the DLC for it anyways, so this is a nice way to secure all of them in the future.

 

[Dusk Golem]

this thread broke stuff

Why is this thread doing this for me?

So I'm not crazy.

Spoiler

Well, at least not for this

Anyway, not unexpected, but not exactly desirable either.

 

[FartOfWar]

So this is where the 5 cut games went.

It isn't. I assure you.

 

[Zeliard]

Dismaying, but expected.

 

[FartOfWar]

You have to BUY the ability to sprint?

No. I swear this forum is a fiction factory at times.

 

[Neuromancer]

Don't buy season passes. These things are probably worse than pre-ordering a game.

They are absolutely worse. At least a game you can return or trade in.

 

[Hellcrow]

Hey guys, boycott season passes and pre-orders. But give all your money to kickstarters!

 

[VeryGooster]

Was wondering why Levine was tweeting about DLC all of a sudden...

 

[Des0lar]

Hey guys, boycott season passes and pre-orders. But give all your money to kickstarters!

What the hell are you even talking about?

Season passes suck. Not going to buy one.

 

[Anth0ny]

this thread broke stuff

Noticed this too lol

 

[Won]

GOTY Gold whatever edition it is then.

 

[Stumpokapow]

I actually can't understand the PR in the OP. There are three add-on packs. These three do not include the Early Bird Special Pack. The add-on packs "provide hours of additional gameplay and continue the player's journey in the sky-city of Columbia with new stories, characters, abilities and weapons". Does this mean that there are three story-based add-on packs, or could it be one story add-on pack and two ability/weapon packs? I guess what I'm saying is... what specifically is included in the Season Pass?

 

[Ferrio]

Season passes are such BS. Giving the publishers free loans that might not even be delivered upon.

 

[FartOfWar]

That's some artistic vision there.

I understand that it's pointless to attempt to wave away absurdly mistaken assumptions with information, but whatever: These are self contained stories, comprised of completely unique content. These do not include cut material, and we're working on them now. Nothing was withheld from Infinite. This is new and altogether unique material (three separate stories, with unique contexts and content - not weapon/upgrade packs). If you're skeptical, save your money and see what we have to offer when the time comes. I'm sitting here working on it as I browse, and as always the disparity between my lived experience and the notions in circulation here can be comical.

 

[bodyofanamerican]

I understand that it's pointless to attempt to wave away absurdly mistaken assumptions with information, but whatever: These are self contained stories, comprised of completely unique content. These do not include cut material, and we're working on them now. Nothing was withheld from Infinite. This is new and altogether unique material (three separate stories, with unique contexts and content - not weapon/upgrade packs). If you're skeptical, save your money and see what we have to offer when the time comes. I'm sitting here working on it as I browse, and as always the disparity between my lived experience and the notions in circulation here can be comical.

Thanks for the clarification, man. Look forward to hearing more about it.

 

[Neuromancer]

I actually can't understand the PR in the OP. There are three add-on packs. These three do not include the Early Bird Special Pack. The add-on packs "provide hours of additional gameplay and continue the player's journey in the sky-city of Columbia with new stories, characters, abilities and weapons". Does this mean that there are three story-based add-on packs, or could it be one story add-on pack and two ability/weapon packs? I guess what I'm saying is... what specifically is included in the Season Pass?

My understanding: the season pass contains 3 add ons not named as of yet, plus the early bird special pack as a bonus.

The industrial revolution pack, separate from those two things, comes with all preorders.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

I actually can't understand the PR in the OP. There are three add-on packs. These three do not include the Early Bird Special Pack. The add-on packs "provide hours of additional gameplay and continue the player's journey in the sky-city of Columbia with new stories, characters, abilities and weapons". Does this mean that there are three story-based add-on packs, or could it be one story add-on pack and two ability/weapon packs? I guess what I'm saying is... what specifically is included in the Season Pass?

There will be three story add-ons released as DLC in the future, of which the season pass gives you access to at a supposedly cheaper value. As a bonus to encourage users to invest in the season pass, players will receive the little booster pack to give them something out of that investment while they wait for the DLC to actually be released down the line.

The Industrial Revolutions puzzle game is offered when you preorder Bioshock Infinite itself.

Hope that clears things up.

 

[Buttonbasher]

I understand that it's pointless to attempt to wave away absurdly mistaken assumptions with information, but whatever: These are self contained stories, comprised of completely unique content. These do not include cut material, and we're working on them now. Nothing was withheld from Infinite. This is new and altogether unique material (three separate stories, with unique contexts and content - not weapon/upgrade packs). If you're skeptical, save your money and see what we have to offer when the time comes. I'm sitting here working on it as I browse, and as always the disparity between my lived experience and the notions in circulation here can be comical.

Seems like a wonderful fit for this game. I'm looking forward to it!

 

[Visualante2]

If Fart's working on it now then that means there's probably new levels/areas to the packs, rather than just new scenarios set in Colombia. That's pretty cool. Fallout is the only DLC I've bought so that gives me hope they'll be in a similar vein.

 

[Sub_Level]

What about the Industrial Revolution pack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCb-w2iPfdM

Is that completely different from the Early Bird pack?

Why do these packs exist in the first place?

 

[ElRenoRaven]

And now I'm obliged to cancel my pre-order and wait for summer sales.

Yea. I myself just canceled my preorder too. I'll wait for a GOTY version with everything included.

 

[Remachinate]

I understand that it's pointless to attempt to wave away absurdly mistaken assumptions with information, but whatever: These are self contained stories, comprised of completely unique content. These do not include cut material, and we're working on them now. Nothing was withheld from Infinite. This is new and altogether unique material (three separate stories, with unique contexts and content - not weapon/upgrade packs). If you're skeptical, save your money and see what we have to offer when the time comes. I'm sitting here working on it as I browse, and as always the disparity between my lived experience and the notions in circulation here can be comical.

I'm sensitive to DLC concerns, but If you never play the DLC, you will have a 100% complete story experience with Infinite alone.

I feel better knowing that the intent is quality additions to the story. Not sure if season pass better, but I think putting down the pitchforks now is reasonable.

 

[FartOfWar]

I feel better knowing that the intent is quality additions to the story. Not sure if season pass better, but I think putting down the pitchforks now is reasonable.

It's exciting stuff and I say that sincerely.

 

[K.Sabot]

 

[clutch.as.it.gets.]

So this is where the 5 cut games went.

Pretty mutch.

This news is a huge turnoff for me. I really don`t understand why publisher let everyone know that they won`t include all the content in the full game, and plan to nickel and dime us.

 

[FartOfWar]

Pretty mutch.

This news is a huge turnoff for me. I really don`t understand why publisher let everyone know that they won`t include all the content in the full game, and plan to nickel and dime us.

I guarantee it's not, but don't take word for it.

 

[Ithil]

I don't even know what a season pass does for a single player only game.

 

[ElectricBanquet]

I don't understand how the stuff like extra weapons and stat boosts is supposed to be an incentive to preorder and/or buy the season pass. I mean, if you want the game to be easy can't you just go into the options menu and set it to easy? I just can't see what the value in that kind of stuff is unless the easiest difficulty level is somehow not easy enough for you.

 

[hypodrmage]

It amazes me how some people make up their minds without reading the available information.

The mystery of the cut content must be solved! Ugh...

 

[Keasar]

Pass. I have fallen for it twice and not more. This time, I am gonna wait for each DLC and see what they bring.

 

[Sn4ke_911]

 

[Terra]

The only season pass I've bought was for Borderlands 2 and I felt pretty burned by the fact that it didn't even include all of the dlc.

Same here. Very disappointed.
Will think twice the next time I consider buying a dlc.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

I understand that it's pointless to attempt to wave away absurdly mistaken assumptions with information, but whatever: These are self contained stories, comprised of completely unique content. These do not include cut material, and we're working on them now. Nothing was withheld from Infinite. This is new and altogether unique material (three separate stories, with unique contexts and content - not weapon/upgrade packs). If you're skeptical, save your money and see what we have to offer when the time comes. I'm sitting here working on it as I browse, and as always the disparity between my lived experience and the notions in circulation here can be comical.

Thank you for the clarification, now why wasn't this just made clear in the PR? =/

 

[Derrick01]

I understand that it's pointless to attempt to wave away absurdly mistaken assumptions with information, but whatever: These are self contained stories, comprised of completely unique content. These do not include cut material, and we're working on them now. Nothing was withheld from Infinite. This is new and altogether unique material (three separate stories, with unique contexts and content - not weapon/upgrade packs). If you're skeptical, save your money and see what we have to offer when the time comes. I'm sitting here working on it as I browse, and as always the disparity between my lived experience and the notions in circulation here can be comical.

Ignore my poor attempt at a humorous jab, I'm not even concerned about DLC anyway. I'm more concerned with the gameplay focus of the main game and if 1999 mode is worthy of the hype behind it. While I don't expect SS2 I'm hoping it's more than most recent "hardcore" modes which were basically just some difficulty tweaks or putting less ammo in a box.

edit: For the record I already have the game preordered on Steam, so I'm taking a chance.

 

[Pctx]

You hear that Randy Pitchford.... YOU HEAR THAT?!?!?!!?!?!?!?

 

[FartOfWar]

Ignore my poor attempt at a humorous jab, I'm not even concerned about DLC anyway. I'm more concerned with the gameplay focus of the main game and if 1999 mode is worthy of the hype behind it. While I don't expect SS2 I'm hoping it's more than most recent "hardcore" modes which were basically just some difficulty tweaks or putting less ammo in a box.

edit: For the record I already have the game preordered on Steam, so I'm taking a chance.

I get where you're coming from. I shouldn't be testy either. It was rough seeing a few assumptions and knowing they were far from the truth. So again, all new content. We take immense pride in everything we do. This is by no means an attempt to snatch some easy money from wallets.

 

[JJD]

I actually can't understand the PR in the OP. There are three add-on packs. These three do not include the Early Bird Special Pack. The add-on packs "provide hours of additional gameplay and continue the player's journey in the sky-city of Columbia with new stories, characters, abilities and weapons". Does this mean that there are three story-based add-on packs, or could it be one story add-on pack and two ability/weapon packs? I guess what I'm saying is... what specifically is included in the Season Pass?

That's the biggest problem with Season passes. You usually don't know in advance what you're buying.

That can be pretty bad (Uncharted 3: I didn't like any of the DLC), or it can be negligible (I liked BF3 DLCs even if I didn't know everything about then when I bought Premium).

The only advantage is that you get a small discount.

If you love a game and are pretty sure you will enjoy all it's DLC Season Passes are OK. If you're not sure then it's better to wait until the DLC is announced so you only need to buy what you're interested in.

 

[Derrick01]

I get where you're coming from. I shouldn't be testy either. It was rough seeing a few assumptions and knowing they were far from the truth. So again, all new content. We take immense pride in everything we do. This is by no means an attempt to snatch some easy money from wallets.

I'm not really one of those people who bitch and moan about all types of DLC anyway. I actually like it when games do big, more expansion-like content like Missing Link in Deus Ex HR or Minerva's Den. If you guys can deliver stuff like that I'll probably eat it up on day 1.

It's the 1-2 hour $15 DLCs that I can't stand. Those almost always scream cash in.

 

[AppleMIX]

That's some artistic vision there.

How dare they charge money for post game content?

Frankly, I don't see the big deal.

 

[Gc-Freak]

Well, I'm definitly going to buy BioShock Infinite but I won't buy the dlc or even a season pass