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Heihachi is soo much more ps related....tekken was ps exclusive from 1-5. Lightning is as much ps related as a COD soldier, IMO

Good point about Heihachi, I'll give you that; I'd forgotten that Tekken 1-5 were PS-exclusive (duh, haha). I still think Lightning is very much PS3-associated though, and far more than a CoD soldier.
 
Yeah, I thought about adding Heihachi to my list of third-party characters that are less associated with PlayStation than Lightning, but then I thought about it and... I don't know, for some reason he strikes me as somewhat Sony-associated for some reason. Maybe because he's a thoroughly Japanese character, and PlayStation is a thoroughly Japanese brand. Same reason Raiden feels like he belongs (not to mention MGS is primarily a PlayStation-associated series). Big Daddy, Isaac, and Dante, on the other hand, are all thoroughly Western characters.

If any fighting game character had to be in this, it's Heihachi. He has been around since PS1 and the first 6 Tekken games were Playstation exclusives on consoles. Out of the current third party characters he deserves it the most. Though i wouldn't have minded if they put in Yoshimitsu instead, just because he has such a crazy fighting style.

As for who else needs to be in this game, look no further than my avatar. Kazuma Kiryu is probably the most deserving third party exclusive character that is still relevant today.
 
I'm not directing this at you, Scrafty, but I hate the "too many gun characters!" argument. There are only so many different ways to fight. If a character isn't using firearms, he's using his hands and feet; if he isn't using his hands and feet, he's using a sword; if he isn't using a sword, he's using magic/elemental powers. PaRappa and Heihachi are both melee characters, but they play nothing alike. Similarly, Emmett and Isaac are gun characters, but they play nothing alike either. There's more to it than aesthetics, which unfortunately a lot of people aren't willing to look past.

I understand your point, but I did think this through before posting it. Let's consider a few possible Supers for Snake:

Railgun from MGS4: Cool, plot-relevant, practical, uniq--oh wait; it's basically Radec's Level 2. Crap.

Metal Gear REX: Man, that'd be so awesome! It'd be like that one bit from Guns of the--dang, Emmett and Sweet Tooth already covered all of the mech bases.

CQC: Hey, wouldn't it be cool if he just punched and kicked people? Wait, what do you mean that's not what people want from Snake?

He simply doesn't use enough unique weapons to warrant a moveset. Emmett and Isaac work as DLC "gun characters" because their weapons are fantastical, whereas any of the ones that Snake could feasibly used are either covered by Drake and Radec or too boring to work well.

I've considered all of the angles before, and as much of an MGS fanboy as I am, I'd rather see them devote time and money getting more unique DLC characters.
 
I guess we all have our hated attack styles. I dont like swords n stuff. There is only so many ways you can slice with melee stuff. There are already 4 heavily sword based characters. With guns you atleast have better variety. Ratchets Pistol blasts, Radecs sniper, Emmetts cannon and even Isaacs guns work with much more variety.

Oh yeah company rival thing. Its still BS that only Snake reference is in character background info thingie. Could we atleast have classic MGS1-4 stage then?
 
Oh and for Snake there are plenty of ways to make him stand out. Make him Heavy version of Sly for one. Make him really powerful but maybe not so much combo. Also give him great array of stun attacks (but not stupidly easy kill confirms). Give him maybe invisibility so he can attack behind and stun enemies while gaining good AP. Heck give him ability to get AP like PaRappa and Toro. Snake injecting foxdie medicine for AP.

And pfffff Metal Gear would still be ok. There are only 2 mechs. There are 3 FPS supers and PLENTY of transformation supers. Not to mention 4 cutscene supers. Why would 3 mechs suck?

Hows these suggestions?
 
Oh and for Snake there are plenty of ways to make him stand out. Make him Heavy version of Sly for one. Make him really powerful but maybe not so much combo. Also give him great array of stun attacks (but not stupidly easy kill confirms). Give him maybe invisibility so he can attack behind and stun enemies while gaining good AP. Heck give him ability to get AP like PaRappa and Toro. Snake injecting foxdie medicine for AP.

And pfffff Metal Gear would still be ok. There are only 2 mechs. There are 3 FPS supers and PLENTY of transformation supers. Not to mention 4 cutscene supers. Why would 3 mechs suck?

Hows these suggestions?

Or you could simply use snake's moveset from SSBB

just give us Old Snake with a drum can.. with Metal Gear Ray for level three..
 

Step

Member
Guys, I am very disappointed with lack of wanting Patapon characters. Let me fix that. Id also like to mention that Disgaea characters would make for good 3rd party characters. Unlike them 4.... (heihachi gets pass for now)

How is it possible we didn't get anything related to Disgaea.
 
How is it possible we didn't get anything related to Disgaea.

Western developers who like western games waaaaaaaaaaaayy too much. Hence Bioshock and Dead Space. Also new DmC i think. They got bare minimum in japanese character stuffs. Like 4 maybe if not counting Raiden. Also lol they all have cutscene supers, hahah. XP
 
Come on.....
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That would be nice! I'd buy that.

But be prepared for;
Spike - with a bandana!
Evil Cole - with a hat!
Toro - with a bandana!
Big Daddy - with a top hat!
Dante - bald!
Heihachi - with a bandana!
Nariko - with a flower in her hair!
Raiden - with a mustache
Sir Daniel - with a bandana!
 
Western developers who like western games waaaaaaaaaaaayy too much. Hence Bioshock and Dead Space. Also new DmC i think. They got bare minimum in japanese character stuffs. Like 4 maybe if not counting Raiden. Also lol they all have cutscene supers, hahah. XP

I don't think SuperBot had a choice between classic Dante and new Dante -- I'm pretty sure Capcom forced new Dante on them to tie in with DmC marketing and said "take it or leave it, your choice." SuperBot definitely knew most fans would have preferred the other Dante.
 
Western developers who like western games waaaaaaaaaaaayy too much. Hence Bioshock and Dead Space. Also new DmC i think. They got bare minimum in japanese character stuffs. Like 4 maybe if not counting Raiden. Also lol they all have cutscene supers, hahah. XP

Heihachi, Spike, Parappa, Toro, Raiden, Kat and arguably Dante, that's 7. Not too bad, but there could be more, like Kazuma Kiryu. :p
Why wouldn't you count Raiden?

That would be nice! I'd buy that.

Dante - bald!

I'm still waiting for pizza slice Dante.
 

Step

Member
Western developers who like western games waaaaaaaaaaaayy too much. Hence Bioshock and Dead Space. Also new DmC i think. They got bare minimum in japanese character stuffs. Like 4 maybe if not counting Raiden. Also lol they all have cutscene supers, hahah. XP

I didn't realize about most of the had cutscene supers.

Scarf Prinny would be such a fun character animated on 2d ofc, Nippon Ichi Software deserves some love in this game and now more with those 3 new exclusives.
 
I don't think SuperBot had a choice between classic Dante and new Dante -- I'm pretty sure Capcom forced new Dante on them to tie in with DmC marketing and said "take it or leave it, your choice." SuperBot definitely knew most fans would have preferred the other Dante.

Personally id say no then. Heck, its probably me but i wouldnt even like old Dante haha. Laharl would have been much better demon character 3rd party. IMO ofc.
 
Western developers who like western games waaaaaaaaaaaayy too much. Hence Bioshock and Dead Space. Also new DmC i think. They got bare minimum in japanese character stuffs. Like 4 maybe if not counting Raiden. Also lol they all have cutscene supers, hahah. XP

This is true! If this was made in Japan you'd see a good share of Western characters and Japanese characters... or just all Japanese characters.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
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Sweet Tooth's alternate costumes are a tough nut to crack.
 
Heihachi, Spike, Parappa, Toro, Raiden, Kat and arguably Dante, that's 7. Not too bad, but there could be more, like Kazuma Kiryu. :p
Why wouldn't you count Raiden?

Oopsie doodle. I forgot Kat! Silly me.

Why not Raiden? Because i thought that japanese wouldnt like so much for Platinum games character. Sure he is from Metal Gear, but he is from Platinum Games newest game. I've heard that they arent that big sellers. I was sooooooo wrong after hearing MGRR's sales in Japan thou. :p
 
I don't know why I didn't think about this before, but yeah, Laharl (or Mao, but Laharl is more recognizable) would have been an awesome character to have in this game. Would've been really fun to play, with tons of personality. And I'm not even a Disgaea fan!
 
While Yakuza is goodish PS-exclu (yet) 3rd party franchise i dunno about Kiryu. Someone convince me that like Drake developers would be able to give him unique supers. :U

As for costumes:
-Sweeth Tooth gets some from classic games.
-Radec would be some special troop unit.
-Coles could have more enemy costumes
-Ratchet and Clank would have classic armor. Or my idea, Tuxedo ratchet with Secret Agent Clank. :p
-Jak gets some Jak 2 armor.
-Big Daddy gets another diff subject look.
-Dante... looses pants. Underwear Dante incoming. Im calling it...
-Heihachi gets classic costume
-Raiden aswell sth classic
-Sir Dan gets sth from Medievil 2. I saw some of its costumes. Medievil 2 seems to have good ones.
-Spike gets anime or sth from games.
-I have no idea what Toro would get. Classic Japanese cloths maybe?
 
Laharl would be amazing.

He would have his laugh as Taunt and I would spam the heck of it. Althou he could have cutscene lv 3 super.
:s
Worth it either way.

Heh, even I havent played true Disgaea game yet i want him lulz. I played Prinny games and those were good enough to show his greatness. Ofc Hero Prinny would be good aswell.
 

Ryce

Member
Team Kiryu still lives =D
I'd love to see Kiryu, and he's definitely the closest thing Sega has to a PlayStation "all-star," but the Yakuza team seems a little too protective of their IP. They won't even let their characters be included in a Sega kart racer.
 
While Yakuza is goodish PS-exclu (yet) 3rd party franchise i dunno about Kiryu. Someone convince me that like Drake developers would be able to give him unique supers. :U

Take a pick.


I'd love to see Kiryu, and he's definitely the closest thing Sega has to a PlayStation "all-star," but the Yakuza team seems a little too protective of their IP. They won't even let their characters be included in a Sega kart racer.

:/
 

YoungOne

Member
Ellen or Keats is who I would want to see next as dlc they would fit the rpg rep while their moveset will be interesting with all the folks they can use.
 

SmithnCo

Member
I'd like Snake, they could be creative with the moveset if they wanted to. A Metal Gear Mk. II attack that is similar to Spike's controllable thing. Guns with varying effects like dizziness, traps, octocamo, etc. They could go in several directions with it if they were allowed to.

Still would've liked Lammy as DLC though, preferably with a chainsaw guitar move.
 
I'd like Snake, they could be creative with the moveset if they wanted to. A Metal Gear Mk. II attack that is similar to Spike's controllable thing. Guns with varying effects like dizziness, traps, octocamo, etc. They could go in several directions with it if they were allowed to.

Still would've liked Lammy as DLC though, preferably with a chainsaw guitar move.

Lammy feels biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit too random. If she would be announced i would expect shittons of hatred. Althought realisticly she will never be added. Sequel maybe. :p
 

TheMink

Member
I'm not directing this at you, Scrafty, but I hate the "too many gun characters!" argument. There are only so many different ways to fight. If a character isn't using firearms, he's using his hands and feet; if he isn't using his hands and feet, he's using a sword/melee weapon; if he isn't using a sword/melee weapon, he's using magic/elemental powers. PaRappa and Heihachi are both melee characters, but they play nothing alike. Similarly, Emmett and Isaac are gun characters, but they play nothing alike either. There's more to it than aesthetics, which unfortunately a lot of people aren't willing to look past.

I agree, the "we need less (insert here)" arguement really untangles when you really think about the fighting archtypes you mentioned. Someone without a gun would have to be one of those other types. And people think we have to many swords also, so that leaves just fists and elements.
Well Zeus is both fists and elements, and Isaac has a plazma cutter (not technically a gun lmao) so i dont know what else needs to be covered instead of another gun.

Edit: didn't realize snake was the character in question, i can think of some really unique stuff that doesnt have to be something someone else already has.
 

SmithnCo

Member
Lammy feels biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit too random. If she would be announced i would expect shittons of hatred. Althought realisticly she will never be added. Sequel maybe. :p

:( She had her own game! It's a cult favorite!

Actually it's mostly wishful thinking from me. I'd be happy if we got more DLC at all.
 
Radec should get
-Pyro Trooper (KZ2)
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-Scout Sniper (KZ2)
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-Miner (KZ2)
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-Grenadier (KZ2) -
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Shock Trooper (KZL) -
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Rifleman (KZ2)
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My favorites are the miner and the scout sniper, although the shock trooper is frigging awesome as well...
 

J-Tier

Member
No marketing characters! Althought realisticly they could add James Bond and Spiderman. The Movie rivals. Woo

(For the love of god developers DONT DO THIS)

Flint from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs to promote the second mega-super-crazy-awesome sequel coming out, we could bring in the whole Sony pictures library. It'll be epic.

Hah. Ha.
 
God, I don't know why anyone even plays ranked any more. I dipped into it for a bit just to get the "play a ranked match" trophy on Vita (I've already platinumed the PS3 version), and my first match was against three level 999 Drakes who all played the exact same way, and one of the losers ragequit at the end anyway.

It took me four more matches -- against various combos of only Drake, Kratos, Raiden, and Cole -- to be able to finish a match and get the trophy.

What the fuck. This game has the worst online "community" in recent memory, and the fact that the game was not designed to punish people like these idiots is absurd.
 

SmithnCo

Member
Flint from Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs to promote the second mega-super-crazy-awesome sequel coming out, we could bring in the whole Sony pictures library. It'll be epic.

Hah. Ha.

I can imagine it now. New DLC comes out.
The Smurfs are added.
 

Ryce

Member
The only costumes I'd buy:

Heihachi - Mishima Hakama (Tekken 3, Tekken Tag Tournament & Soulcalibur II)
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Dante - Classic Dante (DmC Devil May Cry)
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Raiden - Cyborg Ninja (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)
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My personal choices for DLC characters:

Top 4:

1) Alundra (Alundra)
2) Gabe Logan (Syphon Filter)
3) Rau Utu (The Mark of Kri)
4) Monica (Dark Cloud 2)

Next 4:

1) Abe (Oddworld)
2) Ari and Stan (Okage: The Shadow King)
3) Jen Tate (Primal)
4) Lazarus Jones (Ghosthunter)

Last 4:

1) Ellen (Folklore)
2) Tigershark (Invizimals)
3) Jeanne d'Arc (Jeanne d'Arc)
4) Uber Nathan Hale (Resistance 2)

I think all of the above could bring some really interesting combat to the game, especially characters like Lazarus, Abe, and Ari and Stan. Looking at what Superbot did with unconventional fighters like Sackboy, and Fat Princess, I think they'd have done a killer job on those guys.

Add Wand-freaking-er and Kazuma and I agree with bolded.

I mean, seriously, they dug out Isaac and Zeus but couldn't even reach into their own pockets-- I know, I know, this thread is so over the character whining, but it will never stop bothering me. It's not even Superbot, I feel that Sony just doesn't give a damn, and never did to put up the effort.

Costumes:

Visari (Radec)
Sully/Donut Drake (Drake)
Sackboy: Astronaut costume/Dragon costume
Sweet Tooth: Original one posted above

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2v2 $6K tournie??
 
Guesses for Raiden's new alt: Mariachi outfit, Desperado PMC outfit, Grey Fox armour, MGS4 look. I think MGS4 is most likely but the poncho/sombrero is super fun and compliments this game a little more.
 
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