Dark Ninja
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He has to make sure to buy an older type of Wii. As the new ones probably whatever is on the shelves now wont play Gamecube games anymore
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Full F-Zero AX arcade game found on F-Zero GX disc
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He has to make sure to buy an older type of Wii. As the new ones probably whatever is on the shelves now wont play Gamecube games anymore
I can't hear it. But fuck you forever because now I hear "grandpa's ol' award set" and that's all I'll ever hear from now on.
slightly related, the original F-Zero plays crazy good on the WiiU Pad.
buy a memory card too !
as for the Gamecube, do buy the purple lunch box !
And get Luigi's Mansion while you're at it.
I can't express how happy this discovery makes me. I'm hacking my Wii as soon as humanly possible. I'm taking it to a friends who already hacked his and is knowledgeable in that area.
I only ever unlocked the AX tracks in GX because screw ever even considering Story Mode on Very Hard. You should get everything unlocked in that game and a check for $20 when you beat it on friggin' Normal.
I only ever unlocked the AX tracks in GX because screw ever even considering Story Mode on Very Hard. You should get everything unlocked in that game and a check for $20 when you beat it on friggin' Normal.
Lee Chaolan
Member
An amazing find. Reminds me of all the codes they found years upon years later for Goldeneye for N64.
Its pretty amazing that this was only found out after all these years. Going to have to try it out one of these days.
And and this note, and thread, we better see a new F Zero this gen. The lack of F Zero since 2004 is a joke especially since F Zero GX sold relatively well on GC.
GX is probably my fav racer of all time now that I look back on it. I'm not a huge fan of the genre but it would be between MK64, Moto GP Xbox and GX.
And and this note, and thread, we better see a new F Zero this gen. The lack of F Zero since 2004 is a joke especially since F Zero GX sold relatively well on GC.
GX is probably my fav racer of all time now that I look back on it. I'm not a huge fan of the genre but it would be between MK64, Moto GP Xbox and GX.
Pretty much this, but why hide it, especially if there's no way to unlock other than GameGenie codes?
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
I'm guessing you save manufacturing cost by putting out one disk. Then the custom arcade hardware just knows to pass blah-blah data to load up the right version.
I'm curious if someone who owns the arcade setup can find a way to send "code" and play GX on the arcade sitdown!
ryūkotsusei
Member
Its so bad he probably means "graph console performance setting" although it sounds like "Graph console performance set".
entremet
Member
Nintendo was really disappointed at its reception, though. AV did an amazing job and there were expecting much better numbers.
And even later, they found a Spectrum emulator inside of Goldeneye. Complete with Spectrum ROMs for it to load.
Easier to test the Gamecube <-> Arcade data sharing via memcard if you can just debug it into Arcade mode and the reverse.
Since the vast majority of the data will be shared, you can just put the arcade executable on there then remove all references to it before shipping.
Note this was pre-Hot Coffee, where after that happened publishers and devs got a lot more hardcore about erasing unused data/items from retail versions of games. You probably won't find anything like this anymore because nobody wants to get ESRB'd. Before that, there's a lot of leftovers (assets, executables) sitting on discs, just no way to reach them because there was no real reason to remove them later.
Night_Trekker
Member
This is one of the coolest "hidden content" finds ever. Wish I had an AR for my GCN/Wii :/
Whoa, that's cool!
Whoa, that's cool!
http://www.therwp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48139
Interestingly, they did not use this for Jetpac in DK64. It was actually ported to N64 microcode for that game.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
You know they had that game in the arcades at that time, called F-Zero AX? I bet they wanted to make money offa that, yeah.
As far as I know it's not perfectly playable in Dolphin.
Fried Food
Banned
just bought an action replay, and a gamecube controller (official) off amazon.
Zen gaming is released.
Zen gaming is released.
It took nearly a decade, but I finally found an AX machine last year and had the chance to play it. I brought some of the AX stuff home to GX (can't believe the memory card slot still worked on the machine), but this is even better news. I love hidden content finds like this. If only there were an official push-button code to access it. The already high asking price of used Action Replays just shot through the roof.
And the fun corollary question to that: Does GX still have the hooks to drive the cabinet?
Fried Food
Banned
I just bought one for 24 off amazon.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Look for it and buy it.
My guess is that there won't be a GC VC for a long time on Wii U, so you're probably better off just buying it for GameCube, as long as you have a GC or a backwards compatible Wii.
The game is fucking fast anyway, you will hardly notice the non-HD resolution.
If you're in the US you might even be able to play it in progressive scan mode, which was removed from the PAL version.
Beer Monkey
Member
I love GX and AX, it always perplexed me that Miyamoto shit on them.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
You need a version 1 if you want to input your own codes!
I tried to warn everybody...
MisterHero
Super Member
That's great. I really liked the Arcade cabinet based on the little time spent with it. I never figured out how to do spin attacks though.
You can unlock AX content, just not the mode.
For some reason, you can run Mario galaxy 2 at 1080p on mediocre hardware, yet GX runs like shit. There's a bunch of tutorials out there to optimise it - you have to hit the right settings spot on - but it helps to have a decent PC.
CrashPrime
Member
At 7 pages in, I have to ask the obvious here, how has Nintendo not went back to the well on this franchise?
People are freaking out about a slightly different way to play a game almost 10 years old, yet as far as anyone knows, F-Zero GX 2 still doesn't even exist on paper.
People are freaking out about a slightly different way to play a game almost 10 years old, yet as far as anyone knows, F-Zero GX 2 still doesn't even exist on paper.
The DK64 team probably didn't know about that.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I got that wheel (I found it for about £5, it was release din Europe sans the ZF-zEro branding). It's the pedels that are hard to find. Without those, I found it be to be fairly bad and turned my once okay F-Zero skills into Captain Falcon's gotten a tad drunk...I always wanted to get this wheel due to F-Zero at the time
Maybe I needed more calibration or something.
Imbarkus
As Sartre noted in his contemplation on Hell in No Exit, the true horror is other members.
I ask again: you mean a homebrewed Wii, right?
I'd need to buy another one because I'm keeping one legit until I get a WiiU and transfer purchases...
As far as I know the Homebrew Channel doesn't stop you from performing a Wii to Wii U transfer. If I'm wrong please correct me.
Dion Blaster
Member
You're correct, my home brewed Wii has the system transfer downloaded, you just have to know how to update stuff. I don't blame him though, I'm aware something could possibly go wrong and my ~$100 spent on VC stuff could be gone thanks to Nintendo's shit online system.
Nintendo usually doesn't brag about games being developed, the only exceptions I can think of are TLoZ, Pikmin and Pokemon. They usually just say here's Mario or whatever and one year later you are playing the game. I have a feeling we will ear about a new F-Zero at this year E3.
Trancetronic
Member
I always wanted to get this wheel due to F-Zero at the time
I actually owned this and the pedals before I lost it in storage.
Your reaction time on the wheel is going to be a lot slower than as you would play with a controller. Calibrating the wheel to the perfect setting takes work, and even after I've done it, I still wasn't as fast reflexes with it as I was with a controller. It makes for a good arcade experience, yes, but if you actually want to perfect the game, the steering wheel is definitely not a viable option.
"Yo dawg....I heard you like arcade ports in yo home ports, so we put F-Zero AX in yo F-Zero GX!"
Yeah I found out about this a few days ago and it's pretty wild. Don't visit GAF all that much these days so it's no surprise I just discovered this thread.
This revelation, coupled with the ability to play the game with 100% full force feedback effects with any PC ffb wheel, means you really DO have the arcade machine in your house literally!
This was the case until recently with the last few builds. The last few builds run F-Zero GX at it's absolute BEST to date! Dual Core is a lot more stable now and further optimizations have given the game an even bigger speed boost! Plus Open GL runs just as good as Dx9 now.
I always wanted to get this wheel due to F-Zero at the time
Well if you own any Logitech or other brand of PC force feedback wheel, your wish has come true, because now you can use them to play F-Zero GX with 100% full force feedback effects via Dolphin! See this post:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47962255&postcount=473
if we don't hear about F-Zero this year, it is dead.
the only viable period is now. the best selling games in the series were launch titles and the ones that launched further from launch sold worse (one of the factors that made GX sell bad and killed the later GBA games)
The fact that Nintendo outsourced it to a third party is probably an indicator of the priority ranking F-Zero has at that company.
The higher tier properties get internally developed or by a shell company they control. The less-selling, lesser priority games get sent to other studios since they more willing to take risks with those IPs in letting someone else take a swing at them.
with that logic, we should have kept getting F-Zero games.
nintendo doesn't even want to use that route with F-Zero nowadays.
Neff
Member
Yet an (at the time) premium third party, renowned for making the best driving games in the world. Nintendo only became soured on the franchise due to the unfortunate circumstances of an extremely difficult game being released on a niche platform, and the subsequent flat sales it delivered.
But Nintendo aren't stupid. If they see there's an audience for F-Zero, and Miiverse is very much telling them just that at the moment, they'll definitely consider it.
Sega seems a bit busy these days
I don't think they hated the game. But it's almost up there with Metroid for overvalued Nintendo franchises (in terms of the finances it brings in) in the eyes of fans.