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Is Joakim Mogren CG?


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mango drank

Member
This is CG ... from the year 2030.

Kojima's invented time travel. That's the real news.

Also, a bunch of you would make excellent conspiracy theorists.
 
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.
 

GrayFoxPL

Member
Her teeth are exactly the same in that they remain closed. Her lips don't move the same as Joakim's whilst talking because that is actually physically impossible.

Hence she is actually a little more realistic albeit still talking clearly with clenched teeth.

His teeth move even in the above gif. The hell you're on?
 

Barryman

Member
I'm going to guess that some shots are CG, some are real. The next logical evolution of the side-by-side comparisons Kojima is so fond of posting.

God damn, Kojima is such a mad genius...

#TeamCG
 

Midou

Member
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.

It's better off if you just ignore any threads like this one if you don't care for it, and let everyone else have their fun.

It's only a week and a half till full reveal anyways, so no reason to take such a personal grudge.
 
Wrap your jaw with bandages and talk to yourself in front of a mirror. You will not talk like Joakim does. It's not humanly possible.
I can even talk like that without a wrap compressing my face.

So the jaw wrapping stops his teeth moving, but still lets him move his lips? How does that work?
His teeth aren't static, they're just limited in movement. The gauze wrapped from his chin to the back of his head isn't going to allow wide openings.
 

Midou

Member
I can only imagine what the poor guy is thinking, bet he's watching the video of himself, wondering if maybe he is a nanomachine colony or something.
 

Beren

Member
.. i mean ... err .... omg lol
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Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.

Kojima had no part in this.
 

Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
I bet Kojima did not expect people to think it's CG. Also no other media posts shit like that, you can't find this anywhere else but GAF.
 
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Deleted member 80556

Unconfirmed Member
Showed this to a relative of mine. Instantly she had the uncanny valley feeling.

I got this too. Was it just me or his eye was twitching during most of the interview? Isn't it possible that those dots for mocap were itching his eye, so he was twitching it?

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This can't be CG, it really can't be.

It is!

I took the red pill.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
I figured it out. Joakim Mogren was created in a 3D printer. So he's not CG, but he isn't real either!
 
How did this CG stuff actually start anyway? Did someone just randomly say "He looks weird, it's CG"? Or was there something more substantive to go off?
 

Tan

Member
I don't even understand how this could be CG when the game itself doesn't look this good. Why even bother producing CG that far outclasses the game's graphics to show off the new engine?
 

Salsa

Member
How did this CG stuff actually start anyway? Did someone just randomly say "He looks weird, it's CG"?

yup

and it got fueled by the fact that it would make sense and be convinient if it was CG, with GDC coming up

this lead to people really, REALLY looking into the video, desperately wanting for it to be true

hence, people payed enough attention to start noticing some "weird" patterns that are actually uncommon, but completely normal and possible on a human face and immediatly labeling them as CG because "something's off I dont close my eye like that!"

grew from there
 

Makai

Member
How did this CG stuff actually start anyway? Did someone just randomly say "He looks weird, it's CG"? Or was there something more substantive to go off?
He just looks weird. First time through I thought he was just a filmed actor, but I rewatched the video to see if I had missed anything and I had a "wait a minute..." moment.
 

Barryman

Member
To be fair, Geoff Keighley did stop in to call the thread "amazing" and to further hype the GDC announcement.

He could easily have just ignored it. Not saying that proves anything, but it certainly justifies further discussion.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.

So bitter. Tell us how you really feel.
 

Kyoufu

Member
I don't even understand how this could be CG when the game itself doesn't look this good. Why even bother producing CG that far outclasses the game's graphics to show off the new engine?

You haven't seen the next gen tech running though. That trailer for Phantom Pain was current gen.

They're going to show a new trailer at GDC. A conference for developers. They're not going to show current gen tech there, are they? :p
 
I don't even understand how this could be CG when the game itself doesn't look this good. Why even bother producing CG that far outclasses the game's graphics to show off the new engine?

- The weird editing.
- The bandages.
- Recent EDGE feature on Fox Engine and PES 2014 showing it's facial rendering.
- Incoming GDC panel on rendering in Fox Engine.
 
Until it's proven that it's real and not CG then you can't say it's stupid.

Especially with EDGE's FOX engine feature.

Well, whatever happens half of the people in here are going to be wrong if the poll is indicative of anything.

This thread has certainly been thoroughly entertaining though. I eagerly await the final word as to whether this is all real, all CG or a combination of CG and an actor; I'm sure the thread will be even more entertaining in hindsight. One thing I'm enjoying about it all is that there is even the possibility of it being CG which makes me look forward to the end of the next generation even more as graphics continue to improve.

EDIT:
Somehow i think that this guessing game is going to be more fun than MGS5.

This also. The amount of mystery surrounding the game itself is highly entertaining (even though I don't believe it'll be more enjoyable than the game itself).

EDIT 2: And as for whether or not I think it's CG, I'm not eliminating the possibility that some of it is CG (maybe all of it, but I still don't believe so). If I didn't have the knowledge that some people thought it was CG before watching it initially I probably wouldn't even have considered the possibility, although I would have found the format of the interview very strange (which is what makes me resistant to thinking it's CG). The items that I feel give it the largest credence is the comments regarding how the Fox Engine was producing near photorealistic graphics, the upcoming GDC presentation, Kojima's comments regarding his enjoyment from misleading the audience, the eye movement in the final reaction, the limited scope of the interview (as he is only shown for a small amount of time relative to the interview's length) and the "real versus fake" Fox Engine images that had already been posted (I also think the covering of the face via the bandages is somewhat significant too as it removes the areas that the face render in the original post has the largest issues with and lowers the amount of skin that must be perfected). As for why it would be done in CG, if it's done in CG, it seems like it would be an excellent display of the Fox Engine along similar lines to the previous "real versus fake" demonstration, only now in a dynamic form. I'm still not certain as to which I feel is more likely though. It being CG would be something I could imagine Kojima doing but at the same time I only have any doubt in my mind as to its validity due to this thread which makes it hard to accept as CG (but I feel that this would make perfect sense in its timing if it was). Either way, this thread has been highly entertaining.

EDIT 3: The GDC presentation name is making me lean more significantly towards it being CG, at least to some extent. Another thing that I have to consider is what ultimate purpose would the interview, and the strange format, serve otherwise since no other information was actually shown. I feel like I'm slowly being sucked into a blackhole of madness.
 
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