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Okay, TeamCG. Come own up to your foolishness. #trolljima

Is Joakim Mogren CG?

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UrbanRats

Member
TheSeks said:
There's no "I'm not sure," "I lean toward real, but CGI wouldn't surprise me." "I lean toward CGI, but real wouldn't surprise me." options. Not voting until you correct your poll to be less black and white and more (50) shades of grey.

That said let's talk about that CGI render face in the Fox engine because that's PHENOMENAL. Like holy shit. I thought the facial animations in Uncharted 1-3 looked good for PS3 tech. PS4 and beyond is going to be some seriously mental shit if that face is what they're going to be animating.
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ARE YOU FOR OR AGAINST?!
 
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Salsa

Member
Relaxed Muscle said:
The 3 things more "hyped" about Fox Engine:

Lightning:


See through clothes:



Face Rendering:




Obviously you would like to show all 3 right, if you were Kojima?

BAM!:

"Photorealism through the eyes of a Fox" - GDC Panel name.

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I just rocked your world, now come to TeamCG!
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static CG always looks great. It's when things animate that it falls apart.
 
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Xyber

Member
SalsaShark said:
but they render everything they can on PC, wich is where the game clearly shines and it's meant to be played if capable

this is where the game is gonna be at. You dont show something impressive to then say that you can't do that with the consoles and show a way less exciting thing

who'd do that? how is that a way of promoting a product? they are showing an engine for the next Metal Gear game, they are not trying to outsource it to PC developers


it would be super counter productive for MGS5 dude
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First thing that pops up in my head, PS4 reveal. Quantic Dream showing a head and absolutely nothing else to show what their engine is capable of on the PS4. That doesn't mean the entire game is going to look amazing just because they can render a single head.
 
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onlyindreams

Banned
SpartanForce said:
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.
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:l
 
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Salsa

Member
Xyber said:
First thing that pops up in my head, PS4 reveal. Quantic Dream showing a head and absolutely nothing else to show what their engine is capable of on the PS4. That doesn't mean the entire game is going to look amazing just because they can render a single head.
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yet that head looks about 10 times less realistic than this supposed Joakim CG
 
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MormaPope

Banned
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.

Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.

Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
 
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Sn4ke_911

If I ever post something in Japanese which I don't understand, please BAN me.
MormaPope said:
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.

Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.

Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
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You can't be serious about that dude come on.
 
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Salsa

Member
MormaPope said:
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.

Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.

Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
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this thread is reaching critical mass
 
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Relaxed Muscle

Member
MormaPope said:
Here's an idea, what if all footage shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain were only created for events? What was seen isn't actually from the real projects, the real project is a next gen game, while Kojima made trailers and footage using a PC toned down or equivalent to current gen consoles.

Hell, "Ground Zeroes" could literally mean that the gameplay shown for Ground Zeroes and Phantom Pain are just foundations for what the next gen Metal Gear will be, what was shown was all conceptual, while the actual product or project is completely different in tone and setting.

Basically, a current gen tease for what's going to happen in the future.
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I really think that a next-gen version is already on the works, Kojima loves high tech, and probably they were pretty restricted by the current hardware.


Also TeamHYBRID is TeamCG, as long as you think there's some CG in there you are part of TeamCG, there's no place for middle stances!
 
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Snake

Member
SalsaShark said:
this thread is reaching critical mass
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You #TeamRealists just don't get it.

We were planning on giving you the credit for who is right to begin with.

We're no philanthropists. #TeamCG is far from impregnable. It needs other #Teams as guards, a huge payload of theories, and full internet, console, and PC support to function efficiently. Against a large attack force without support, #TeamCG is nothing more than a gigantic coffin. Seizing the truth of the interview was never the real objective!
 
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Barryman

Member
Relaxed Muscle said:
Also TeamHYBRID is TeamCG, as long as you think there's some CG in there you are part of TeamCG, there's no place for middle stances!
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The hardline stance is giving more ammo for TeamReal.

That one gif is pretty clearly real. If there's only TeamCG and TeamReal, it will make the undecided masses break towards TeamReal.

TeamHYBRID
 
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Xyber

Member
SalsaShark said:
yet that head looks about 10 times less realistic than this supposed Joakim CG
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And I never said anything else. I'm just saying that what they were showing there is no good indication of what the final game actually looks like when you have to render an entire world.
 
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MormaPope

Banned
Sn4ke_911 said:
You can't be serious about that dude come on.
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SalsaShark said:
this thread is reaching critical mass
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We're talking about a man who edited trailers so the main character wasn't shown or even known about until release, while another time hinting at a different main character commiting suicide months before the game is going to released.

And just now a man/CG man with bandages around his face, promoting a game that might not even exist, under a fake studio.

"Did you just say that!?" is making these discussions pretty stale.
 
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jacksepticeye

Member
Darknessbear said:
It's not CG!

There is one fabric sticking out of one of the bandages on the top of his head. So either they are running a vector displacement map (32 bit floating point) or put a fabric simulation(that they used for the hair)/modeled it for that one piece (creating a separate shader to match the bandages). That piece would cause more harm than it would be worth and scan data (which would have to be used) would not be able to pick it up correctly and it supposedly being real time would probably result in flicker/aliasing (not matter how much you up the subdivs or aa bias). If it was CG, I'd say they would have just removed it to remove any potential problems... this is just one of my theories.

#teamReal
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Damn, teamCG just got schooled
#teamreal
 
Riposte

Riposte

Member
What if some clips of him are real and some are CG??? "Can you tell the difference?" says Kojima a few weeks from now
 
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Ace Harding

Member
I went out to dinner and thought I'd check back in before bed. Good to see nothing has changed - still right (#teamcg) and wrong (everyone else).
 
R

Ryuhza

Banned
22joakim22.png



You never understood, why we did this. The audience knows the truth: the world is simple. It's miserable, solid all the way through. But if you could fool them, even for a second, then you can make them wonder, and then you... then you got to see something really special... you really don't know?... it was... it was the look on their faces...
 
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Synth_floyd

Banned
It can't be CG. If it is then either Kojima is doing some kind of trick or tricks with the Fox engine to make it look good or the Fox engine comes from 10 years in the future.
 
S

stktt

Banned
Darknessbear said:
It's not CG!

There is one fabric sticking out of one of the bandages on the top of his head. So either they are running a vector displacement map (32 bit floating point) or put a fabric simulation(that they used for the hair)/modeled it for that one piece (creating a separate shader to match the bandages). That piece would cause more harm than it would be worth and scan data (which would have to be used) would not be able to pick it up correctly and it supposedly being real time would probably result in flicker/aliasing (not matter how much you up the subdivs or aa bias). If it was CG, I'd say they would have just removed it to remove any potential problems... this is just one of my theories.

#teamReal
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Yes, but what if Magic? And Kojima? Have you heard of Fox?
 
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Stark

Banned
SpartanForce said:
Kojima is lame. What's even the need for this? Just tell us the real name of the game and a release date/plataforms. I'm an fan of the MGS series, but Kojima must have some real sick problems. Probably bipolar or something. And everyone is a bit part guilt on this awful marketing strategy. Just don't support this, ignore and the man will grow the fuck up from he's need for attention 24/7. Even writing this here I'm giving just more attention to him, so I will keep just to this one post.
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You seem to be the one with the problems, lol.
 
Z

Zukuu

Banned
Maybe an anagram?
Joakim Mogren

I'm an Joke Gamer
or
I'm an Joker Game

Other words that are included:
Gear
Remaking
Rage
Joking
Making


or a acronym for various metal gear characters / fox hound members?
 
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