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John Walker's anti-BS SimCity news articles.

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unbias

Member
Omikaru said:
I don't get where Arthur thinks Walker is "directing vitriol" at him. I mean, wasn't it Gies who attacked Walker for having an anonymous source in the first place, when the reality is that Gies has regularly cited anonymous sources on GAF in relation to console specs and thelike? From how I see it, Arthur started this spat, and didn't really have a leg to stand on when John defended his journalism.

However, there is definitely unwarranted vitriol heading Arthur's way. When he mentioned it to me last night I checked out his @mentions to see if he was bullshitting me or not, and there was a fair bit of abuse being hurled at him. It's one thing to argue with someone publicly, call them out, or whatever, and it's another to just wish they'd fall under a bus or something.
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Ya, I agree, the name calling is pointless and takes away from any reasonable points. He has enough out there that you can have issues with, without relying on insults. I will say though, his attitude probably attracts others with similar yet less...mature mentalities, which increase the amount of aggression he gets on twitter.
 
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Neuromancer

Member
Omikaru said:
No I agree, absolutely. But there was some doubt expressed in this thread about the vitriol heading Arthur's way, and he was definitely getting some. I doubt that's Walker directing it, however, and it absolutely does not make him right.
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Ok I got you, fair enough.
 
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EmCeeGramr

Member
Yeah, I don't get where Gies gets off pretending that he's a victim of an unprovoked "crusade" from Walker when he's the one that insulted Walker and RPS's journalistic skills in the first place.
 
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Stuart444

Member
Omikaru said:
However, there is definitely unwarranted vitriol heading Arthur's way. When he mentioned it to me last night I checked out his @mentions to see if he was bullshitting me or not, and there was a fair bit of abuse being hurled at him. It's one thing to argue with someone publicly, call them out, or whatever, and it's another to just wish they'd fall under a bus or something.
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The unfortunate part is, a number of games journalists (and PR people who have spoken on twitter with these journalists whenever shit hits the fan) use the uncalled for abuse from the minority as a scapegoat to dismiss any and all criticism they receive.

And they know that but are perfectly happy to bullshit with their future co-workers/peers on twitter.

One situation I remember had someone joke about one situation and someone posted a picture showing both that tweet and a number of replies all from either game journalists or PR/CM people from a number of game companies.

They read all the criticism on places like GAF, no matter how justified the criticism is and then they use the 'abuse' so they don't have to answer it and so they can act like they are the victim.

It's just disgusting.
 
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Curufinwe

Member
I think the takeaway for Gies from all this is that he should stick to questioning the professionalism of other gaming journalists within the safe confines of his Rebel FM podcast that nobody in the industry listens to. Taking his unwarranted sense of superiority to twitter and publicly implying that Walker's source at Maxis was phony, was a colossal blunder, born of hubris.
 
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HoosTrax

Member
Repost?

RPS:
Editorial: Let’s Not Pre-Order Games Any More, Eh?
John Walker

And the consequences of refusing the pre-order model reach further. Not only would it make publishers more likely to make sure good games are in the hands of the press well ahead of launch, so positive buzz would be out there ahead of sale, but it would make them more likely to return to the demo model. If they know they have something good to sell you, but also know you’re not going to buy it before it’s released, they’re far more likely to make sure a demo is in your hands. While they can rely on people handing over money based on a box image and a bundle of promises, why would they invest the time and money into a demo – take that daftness away and there’s a much greater incentive to ensure you’re encouraged before it’s out.
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Also, I need a bumper sticker that says "I was reading RPS before it became hip". Nice to see the site get some well-deserved wider attention.
 
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R1CHO

Member
Be careful Gies, on the last weekend confirmed Marcus Beer said something about slapping some sense into you; he may tried to kill you with John, jealous as they are of your awesomeness.

PS: It's a joke man :p I mean the part were i think you are awesome and all that.
 
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equippedwithtowel

Member
Curufinwe said:
I think the takeaway for Gies from all this is that he should stick to questioning the professionalism of other gaming journalists within the safe confines of his Rebel FM podcast that nobody in the industry listens to. Taking his unwarranted sense of superiority to twitter and publicly implying that Walker's source at Maxis was phony, was a colossal blunder, born of hubris.
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Actually it be worth might tuning in to the next episode just to hear the monumental amount of salt likely to be spewed.
 
Mihos

Mihos

Gold Member
I don't hate Arthur Gies the way some people do, but if you had to sum up all of his tweets in a single one it would probably read:

"People with closed minds piss me off and nothing anyone will ever say will change my mind.... oh and fuck everyone that lives in the mid-west"

I stopped listening to rebel FM awhile ago when they pretty much straight up they only wanted to talk about XBOX and iPhone stuff. I don't know if that is the case anymore.
 
Fixed1979

Fixed1979

Member
Mihos said:
I don't hate Arthur Gies the way some people do, but if you had to sum up all of his tweets in a single one it would probably read:

"People with closed minds piss me off and nothing anyone will ever say will change my mind.... oh and fuck everyone that lives in the mid-west"

I stopped listening to rebel FM awhile ago when they pretty much straight up they only wanted to talk about XBOX and iPhone stuff. I don't know if that is the case anymore.
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I certainly don't hate the dude, I just think he needs to slow the fuck down and maybe take a break from the public eye for a bit. He just seems to keep going without actually realizing how he sounds, he can claim it's just not giving a fuck, but I don't know if as simple as that.
 
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Neuromancer

Member
John this should make you feel better.

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Of course, that's exactly what a man planning an extreme act of violence against you would say...
 
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unbias

Member
Looks like his site is back up. His new article while relevent, isnt really about SimCity, and in the interest of keeping this about SimCity and not a megathread, I'll leave it for someone who wants to do a pre-order topic, again.
 
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unbias

Member
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/18/ea-ceo-john-riccitiello-has-stepped-down/#more-146304

Updated op with his new article, FTA:

Well another person has learned: you don’t mess with Rock, Paper, Shotgun. It seems our coverage of the SimCity… no, not really. The rather more unfortunate reason for EA’s CEO, John Riccitiello’s stepping down is due to the publisher’s struggles to turn a profit, alongside warnings that the next quarter’s targets won’t be met.

n saying so, this looks very much like one of those falling-on-a-sword moments, to stave off investor unrest when yet another set of pointy-down graphs are released.

Also: great tweet from Walker: @aegies I pointed out a shocking tweet in which you fought to defend EA's proven lies. Then you implied my source was fake. Then I left it.
 
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TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
botherer said:
However, I'm quite sure that all the mean things you've said about Gies means if he's at GDC, he's going to snap my neck. The man's a tank. So at least you made me smile before you got me killed.
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Oh come on, you can take him! Just tell him Johnny boy resigned and then snap his neck as he falls into despair.
 
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greycolumbus

The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
Sheesh, Gies blocked me on twitter for a simple comment. That's really weird. I still wanted to like the guy.
 
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MickeyKnox

Member
botherer said:
Hello you ridiculously lovely people.

I wanted to step in (I wanted to do so on Saturday night too, but you live in a walled garden with the intercom unplugged) and say a big thank you.

In any job where you say your opinions of things in a manner which suggests you think others might agree, there's a lot of hostility in response. So while I'm very blessed to receive some lovely emails
here and there, the overall balance does tend to weigh on the side of hate. Hearing that there was a thread about my coverage in here made me think, "Uh oh."

But what an amazing surprise! The very kind things people have said have meant a lot to me, and I'm incredibly pleased that my grumbling has proved at least cathartic for others.

However, I'm quite sure that all the mean things you've said about Gies means if he's at GDC, he's going to snap my neck. The man's a tank. So at least you made me smile before you got me killed.

Oh, and what Htown said right near the start is absolutely true. It IS awful that my SimCity posts should be considered anything particularly unusual. Let's hope such things stand out less and less in the future.

Cheers people - it's much appreciated.

John W
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Thanks for the quality work, RPS is the only gaming site I still visit to *read* content
 
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CambriaRising

Member
botherer said:
Hello you ridiculously lovely people.

I wanted to step in (I wanted to do so on Saturday night too, but you live in a walled garden with the intercom unplugged) and say a big thank you.

In any job where you say your opinions of things in a manner which suggests you think others might agree, there's a lot of hostility in response. So while I'm very blessed to receive some lovely emails
here and there, the overall balance does tend to weigh on the side of hate. Hearing that there was a thread about my coverage in here made me think, "Uh oh."

But what an amazing surprise! The very kind things people have said have meant a lot to me, and I'm incredibly pleased that my grumbling has proved at least cathartic for others.

However, I'm quite sure that all the mean things you've said about Gies means if he's at GDC, he's going to snap my neck. The man's a tank. So at least you made me smile before you got me killed.

Oh, and what Htown said right near the start is absolutely true. It IS awful that my SimCity posts should be considered anything particularly unusual. Let's hope such things stand out less and less in the future.

Cheers people - it's much appreciated.

John W
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Just wanted to say that I appreciate what you wrote, and hope that you continue to write pieces such as this.
 
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Zeouterlimits

Member
HoosTrax said:
Repost?

RPS:
Editorial: Let’s Not Pre-Order Games Any More, Eh?
John Walker

Also, I need a bumper sticker that says "I was reading RPS before it became hip". Nice to see the site get some well-deserved wider attention.
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It's been coming up a lot recently. I rarely pre-order games, hate pre-order dlc, but I do for big titles I want delivered on day one [which amounted to one or two titles last year].
But I'm looking at pre-ordering Bioshock Infinite on Green Man Gaming after reading the article and not sure what I feel would is the right thing to do. I've a lot of faith in Irrational, but should I draw a line in the sand and stop completely?
 
EviLore

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
RPS is the only external video game news website I read with any regularity, and I've appreciated seeing the straight-talking EA coverage. Just would prefer if you folks sourced NeoGAF directly when news breaks here, instead of sourcing a major gaming website that picked up the info from here. Happens a lot.
 
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SneakyStephan

Banned
I'm surprised to hear you got a lot of hate mail for your recent EA articles.

From who? (not asking for names but demographic)
I'm assuming from other writers, industry people etc?


I can understand people like EAgies standing up for EA (standing up for is the nicest way I can put it...) since they are way too codependant on the industry and more interested in themselves than the people who read their stories, but surely regular people look out for themselves first and would agree with you?

I can't live in a world where consumers (gamers) jump on one of the only people standing up for their own rights and standards... Tell me it isn't so.


Anyhow, keep on trucking mister Walker, hold the banner high and keep working on public awareness.
As long as you work the objectiveness angle and word it eloquently and concisely like you have been doing then noone can latch on to semantics or try to deflect (which so often happens in any discussion) or divert attention away from the issues you bring up.

You (with the help of the modder and some investigative journalism) have offered people like gies (and more importantly EA themselves) no outs.
 
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Kelas

The Beastie Boys are the first hip hop group in years to have something to say
I don't get why EAgies is taking a stand against what he thinks is a vocal minority raging against a business model. Why does he feel responsible for defending a company's business practices? If it's a small group of people, why bother engaging them so doggedly? If it's a large group of people, maybe it's worth seeing things from their point of view.
 
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