Coolbgdog12
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BioShock Infinite PC Performance Thread
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Like I said, I have a 5850 and a crappy i5 750. none of which are overclocked. You should never go below 45fps like I do. Never except the stutter when loading a new area. I'm sure you can run with AO high and the settings I posted that I use just fine. I only have the 640 poolsize change, not the other tweak that is known to cause scripting issues. Play around with a custom setting some more. Might sound silly but stop using the benchmark as a way of telling, try it yourself in game.
Yes messing with the settings can be annoying, but with your set up, having a preset make you pick anything below Ultra textures would be criminal.
1080p, FXAA + SMAA was good enough for me.Damn, I wish I could force some AA through inspector. these jaggies are killing me, and I can only downsample so much because of my stupid monitor
I stopped downsampling because it helped with the stutter.
It's crashing on launch with D3DOverrider enabled. Ah, PC gaming. I am Tantalus to your bounties.
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A More Normal Bird
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Depends. Do you get the stutter that (almost) everyone is complaining about? It'd be interesting to know if the game's auto-calculated memory pools work well when given a metric shitload of VRAM to work with.
MacGurcules
Member
Is there any way to do custom binds? I wouldn't mind a quick-toggle for FOV for taking screenshots.
Don't fuck with it. I'm dying to know how the game "out of the box" plays on a titan.
Hawk269
Member
Out of the box it plays fucking amazing. The only stuttering I get is the invisible areas where it is loading stuff in....it drops down to about 30fps or so for a quick second then back up to 60fps. To me this is like LOD issue, with the amount of Vram I have, wish we could set this too a higher value so it does not do this. Outside of that it runs like a champ.
Game runs nearly buttery smooth most of the time on ultra with no AA. Frame rate drops in new areas (load times). I've seen textures got o shit 10 feet away, so I guess 2 GB RAM per card is getting low these days. Going to upgrade to the upcoming cards later this year.
Setting my poolsize to 224 for my 1GB 550 TI resulted in me not being able to go past low textures in the options menu. 1024-800 is the formula?? Ehh
224? 400 is the default. Are you sure you're looking in the right file?
RadioactiveLobster
Member
The games crashed on me twice tonight, no idea why. Does it generate a log file anywhere?
Coolbgdog12
Member
Yea I'm sure. I'm talking about me setting it to 224 which I get from subtracting 800 from 1024MB(VRAM). Anyway I solved it removing that launch startup line in Steam. I changed the poolsize to 640 though. Seems pretty nice.
I didn't include that part in the OP because it only applies to 2GB cards. When the default is 400, obviously subtracting 800 from your ~1GB card makes no sense.
Yeah, before I did it combat on skylines was practically impossible.
alysonwheel
Member
The other half is running a Phenom II X4 840 at stock, 3.2ghz, with a GTX460. 50-60fps with most stuff on normal/high, textures on ultra, using D3DO for triple buffering and vsync. No messing about with ini files. Can't imagine you'll have any problems getting 60fps.
I'm on a 1gb 560. Setting that option to 600 and using the launch option fixed my stuttering (I guess; either that or I just coincidentally got past the stuttery part of the game straight after changing those settings).
I'm dying tons on Hard, but I went in full crazy and maxed out my Salts first (I also didn't get the season pass immediately as I wanted to sell off some TF2 items, now that I did I think I'm past the point I can even get the upgrades unless I revisit the relevant area later in the game), did some health upgrades, and did... ONE for shields? If I was more pragmatic and maxed out health or especially shields I'd probably be having a very different situation as I wouldn't be a glass cannon.
Memory dumps can be found in steamapps\common\BioShock Infinite\Binaries\Win32, but they're .mdmp files, which you'll need to open using WinDbg, available as part of the Windows SDK.
Edit: For those with 1.28GB/1.5GB/more-than-2GB cards using a higher-than-default PoolSize value, if you wouldn't mind posting which value is working for you, I'll chuck them in the OP.
Just crashed on me for the second time in 40 minutes. It tends to freeze up/crash every 10-45 minutes or so. I've had to replay a couple of combat scenes 3-4 times each because the game will crash shortly after the fights but before it freaking auto-saves. Typically, the screen will freeze and the game will make a horrible noise, but on one occasion I got the BSOD.
GeForce 560 ti, i5-2500k @ 3.30GHz, 8 gigs RAM, Windows 7... dunno what else is relevant. Nothing is overclocked or even overheating. Apart from the constant crashes, the game runs smooth as hell on High settings. I uninstalled/reinstalled the video card drivers earlier today. I thought it had fixed the issue because I was able to play for about 40 minutes before I had to manually quit, which was probably the first time I've even been able to do that. Ah well.
GeForce 560 ti, i5-2500k @ 3.30GHz, 8 gigs RAM, Windows 7... dunno what else is relevant. Nothing is overclocked or even overheating. Apart from the constant crashes, the game runs smooth as hell on High settings. I uninstalled/reinstalled the video card drivers earlier today. I thought it had fixed the issue because I was able to play for about 40 minutes before I had to manually quit, which was probably the first time I've even been able to do that. Ah well.
Snowblindvictim
Member
Anyone running this on older hardware?
I'm playing this on Xbox but I want to know if I made the right choice
Throwing my specs out there:
Intel C2D P8700 @2.53 GHz
4GB RAM
9800GTX
I'm playing this on Xbox but I want to know if I made the right choice
Throwing my specs out there:
Intel C2D P8700 @2.53 GHz
4GB RAM
9800GTX
ambientmystic
Member
Lol, here comes another CHALLENGER to the low end PC Gaf throne.
It runs really, really well on even lower end hardware mate. I'll refer you to two posts in this very thread that says as much. (one of which is mine)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51810723&postcount=1673
(C2D T9550 @ 2.8 GHz, ATI Mobility Radeon 4670 (a 320 shader card)) <---- Mine
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=51836733&postcount=1719
(C2D T6500 @ 2.1 GHz, ATI Mobility Bradeon 4570 (an 80 shader card)) <---- tipoo's
Your Geforce 9800M GTX as old as it is, definitely eats my card up for breakfast. Go for it!
(Sigh, low end PC Gaf should have a list out somewhere with minimum specs playable for modern games lol)
Thx for this, it actually helped. There is still some stuttering when loading new sections, but it's much less frequent and noticable.
As you advised, I've set the pool value to 1200 (I have 2 GB 560Ti).
Trent Strong
Banned
This game runs like complete trash on my GTX 260. Wish I'd gotten this for the Xbox.
ambientmystic
Member
Expectations, mate. It's all about your expectations and keeping 'em realistic for your older rig.
You're definitely not gonna be pushing settings to the max, attain and sustain 60 FPS lol. If you also expect to be able to run it at 1080p, forget about it.
Now If you expect to run it better than the aging console that is the XBOX at that mediocre 1280x720p resolution, 30 FPS and lousy arse textures, even a lower end PC (260 GTX) is better in that regard.
Switch off AA, Ambient Occlusion, Keep LOD at Normal, and Dynamic Shadows to Normal/Low. Use a reasonable resolution and most importantly switch off that dastardly Frame Lock option, it really, really impacts lower end systems to point of making the game unplayable (which I what I found out during 1st boot). Textures and Texture Filtering can be kept to Ultra, which are arguably the ones which have the most visual impact for minimal performance loss.
Compromise. Do that, or grab a better GPU. You have a choice, being on desktop. Lower end laptops don't even have that option.
Look around for some used cards, you should be able to get something that is quite a bit better for cheap with some luck.
People are running the game just fine with similar set ups.
Update your drivers, check the OP for suggestions, set adaptive v-sync in Inspector, turn down AO/Shadows, and you should be fine.
If you really want to, you can set the v-sync to half refresh rate in Inspector if you a having trouble getting over 30 fps.
those are clearly masked loading, so yeah
it's somewhat badly implemented. Even tho it's loading it shouldnt stutter like that, but im sure that's why it does
ambientmystic
Member
The Konami Code.
Yup, that's usually the case for me, as well.
nice.We didn't release 314.22 WHQL just for shits and giggles, you know
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-314-22-whql-drivers-released
so guys, can you please suggest settings for a gtx660m on a i7 3630qm 8gb ram laptop?
Try GeForce Experience, we just added BioShock Infinite support: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/geforce-experience
If you've not heard of the app, it automatically determines the best settings for your system.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
So my X51 and its paltry GT 545 handled everything well aside from having to keep AO and Dynamic Shadows on Normal & High respectively (I didn't bother changing Post Processing). I settled @ 1080p and 35fps, which I had to set in the .ini since for some reason I wasn't able to cap it using Inspector (any reason for this??). And D3D Overrider definitely works? I don't remember hearing the chime when I tried but maybe my volume was too low (I was testing stuff at that point with the wife and kids watching tv next to me.) Cool game so far, if heavy handed.
I didn't include that part in the OP because it only applies to 2GB cards. When the default is 400, obviously subtracting 800 from your ~1GB card makes no sense.
In all fairness to Coolbgdog12, I set my pool size to 3200 for my 4gb 670 and the -ReadTexturePoolFromIni command line did the same thing, lowering a bunch of my settings and making it so textures could only be set to low or very low. I noticed this because, once I added the command line, I saw that the game was using around 680-690 mb of RAM, according to Precision X and still running at 60fps at 1080 downsampled from 2560x1440 which made no sense to me.
Edit: Sorry JaseC, I was editing while you were responding.
I can confirm that vsync/triple buffering via D3DO does work, despite the audio cue not playing.
I think that's just a strange bug. The game reset my settings once, though this may have occurred before I began fiddling with the PoolSize cvar. It was strange -- I assume something buggered up as the game loaded and so the defaults were instated, as my settings returned once I restarted the game.
Edit:
Haha, yeah, that's certainly not right -- literally at least 3~3.5x less than what it should be chewing up at max settings.
Horsemama1956
Member
Finally finished the download last night and played a few hours. I'm on a downgrade of a downgrade system(SB i5 -> Ivy i3 -> AMD A6-5400K, 7870 -> 7770 -> GTS250 which is just a 9800GTX+. Resolution is the least of my worries anymore so I just play on a 720p TV, but the game runs at 50-300fps on a mix of normal and high(obvious stuff on normal) for me.
I can't imagine you will not have a much better experience on your PC then either console.
Disabling in game vsync sent my fps soaring. Thanks for the suggestion, mileS. I was expecting it to stay above 30 more often, but it was getting an average of 60-80 once disabled.
D3DOverrider and CCC vsync and triple buffering won't work (game crashes if they are enabled), but I've been pushing my settings up to try and keep the frame rate low enough that it doesn't tear. And that's a much better problem to have. AO on high, textures very high, everything else on ultra. Still managing 45-60, good enough for me.
D3DOverrider and CCC vsync and triple buffering won't work (game crashes if they are enabled), but I've been pushing my settings up to try and keep the frame rate low enough that it doesn't tear. And that's a much better problem to have. AO on high, textures very high, everything else on ultra. Still managing 45-60, good enough for me.
masterkajo
Member
D3DOverrider does work for me. I can play with Vsync and triple buffering. No tearing at all. Perhaps you got some other programs running that are interfering with D3DO? Injecting SMAA for example won't work in conjunction with D3DO.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
So, what's up with some things causing performance loss for no reason? Like Chen's shimmering effect from a foot away impacts nothing but going a bit closer I get 30fps off. Or when hitting some things with melee.
In other random areas even looking at a wall can cause similar effects. It's not very common but it's common enough to be an annoyance I notice rather than something that happened and I forgot about...
In other random areas even looking at a wall can cause similar effects. It's not very common but it's common enough to be an annoyance I notice rather than something that happened and I forgot about...
legacyzero
Banned
Ugh... fxaa..
This is the only game I've ever used it on. It works well for this one.
But ya, it's the devil.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm using Radeonpro to force triple buffered vsync. Maybe give that a try.
Since this game doesn't use PhysX, setting physics to CPU should give better performance on my second card, right?
Also, anyone mess with alternate frame rendering at all? Perhaps that could boost performance as well.
Edit
Which FXAA is better in XEngine, is it the normal one or the alternate type right below.
DownSampling + SMAA + FXAA looks fine. It's really the best you can do until forced AA works.
Also, anyone mess with alternate frame rendering at all? Perhaps that could boost performance as well.
Edit
Which FXAA is better in XEngine, is it the normal one or the alternate type right below.
DownSampling + SMAA + FXAA looks fine. It's really the best you can do until forced AA works.
Nothing I tried worked so I just bought it on xbox and started playing. What a bummer, the pc version looks so great.
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Since this game doesn't use PhysX, setting physics to CPU should give better performance on my second card, right?
Also, anyone mess with alternate frame rendering at all? Perhaps that could boost performance as well.
Edit
Which FXAA is better in XEngine, is it the normal one or the alternate type right below.
DownSampling + SMAA + FXAA looks fine. It's really the best you can do until forced AA works.
Since this game doesn't use PhysX, setting physics to CPU should give better performance on my second card, right?
Also, anyone mess with alternate frame rendering at all? Perhaps that could boost performance as well.
Edit
Which FXAA is better in XEngine, is it the normal one or the alternate type right below.
DownSampling + SMAA + FXAA looks fine. It's really the best you can do until forced AA works.
Nothing else. I tried using SweetFX to inject SMAA but was having the same problem... Game doesn't want to launch when I'm using external programs it seems.
Cannon Goose
Member
Are you using MSI Afterburner?