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Epic: Xbox silence at GDC isn't the full picture

Sony wants to end this console generation quickly, Microsoft doesn't because they're taking over 40% of retail dollars spent each month.

Why should MS rush a next-gen Xbox announcement and negatively impact current gen sales when the product won't be available until November?

The most important goal for them right this moment is selling Tomb Raider, GoW Judgement, Bioshock Infinite, Minecraft, etc.

Any important deals and discussions that happen, happen behind the scenes with announcements at E3 and beyond. MS isn't going to have a hard time getting media coverage.
 

Dabanton

Member
So I guess Phil Spencer's visit to Europe two weeks ago was successful.

In his tweet he mentioned a visit to Crytek to see Ryse and to Lionhead and I imagine a few more of their teams and partners over here.

Can't wait to see what they've been working on.
 

Boost

Banned
MS will show when everything is finalised and running. Once they do; Sony might be the one catching up feature wise.
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Triple U

Banned
That actually won't surprise me at all... I almost expect ms and epic to work pretty closely together to optimize ue4 for xbox (and probably do more optimization around the xbox platform than sony).
There's almost no way it's possible based in the rumor specs.



Sony blew their load to quickly. The PS4 presentation was boring as shit.
This "blew their load" schtick is one of the dumbest juvenile revelations to come around this forum in years, to understate it a little. There's gotta be a more elegant way to say what you mean.
 
Yup, all those rumours of how much worse it's going to be are really helping them out.

I think you overestimate the importance of your video game forum.

Just Dance 4 and Xbox Live subscription cards would not dominate sales charts if this place was a barometer of sales potential.


Nobody in mainstream world is paying attention to your rumor mill. E3 announcements will be the first time next-gen stuff makes any real blip on people's radar. Even then it will take hundreds of millions in advertising dollars to raise awareness of the product to anything of significance.
 

harSon

Banned
So what's this difference that he's talking about. Sony showed us what they're working on in feb.

Sony didn't show us the console. They didn't show us much of the Gaikai Playstation 4 features, and instead, made a series of promises. We didn't see much of the OS, or evolution of PSN from the Playstation 3 to the Playstation 4.

Microsoft has a history of not showing stuff until its far enough along that they can demo it to an audience, especially within the video game space. That's why they tend to not announce video games 2-3 years ahead, and instead, wait until it's playable which tends to be months to one year out from the games actual release.
 

SJRB

Gold Member
Yep.

Just look at the past E3s.

Microsoft has mainly shown/talked about things coming out during the same year.

Sony talked about things coming out anywhere in the range of the same year up to 2 or 3 years after the conference.

I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
 

JJD

Member
Hmm.

Honestly, if there's anything to take from this. It's that Microsoft simply aren't ready to show anything yet. Perhaps they've hit some technical road blocks?

I think since Sony showed such a gaming orientated vision with the PS4, MS just delayed the Durango presser to get more software ready to show on their event to counter that.

Nothing big really.

People in the know (and I'm not one of then! Lol!) have been saying Durango will get great software showing when it finally unveils for some time now, so MS is probably just reinforcing that.
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
I only put it in due to the recent delay to their event in April. If they are following a schedule (which is more than believable), then a delay so late in the game is worrying and would likely be connected to technical issues.

I'd also add that Microsoft allegedly haven't shipped beta kits to a number of third party developers. So both raise questions about what's going on and how much of it is connected to any technical issues that may have arisen.

Te april reveal was always a rumor. The delay to may is also a rumor. They kind of cancel each other out.

Is that from the thread about Oddworld Inhabitants having PS4 hardware and not been contacted by Microsoft? Because Microsoft don't just send hardware out to developers. The developers need to actually order it.
 
I think they are obviously talking to Epic, but the perception, rightly or wrongly, is that they ain't extending that privilege to smaller devs.
 
There's almost no way it's possible based in the rumor specs.




This "blew their load" schtick is one of the dumbest juvenile revelations to come around this forum in years, to understate it a little. There's gotta be a more elegant way to say what you mean.

They showed off their console before they even had anything to show off, including the console itself. Now whatever hype they generated will slowly wither away until the next announcement. They should have bided their time until they had a decent number of features and games to show off, and then steamrolled it until launch.
 

Caddle

Member
Sony shows games running on pc and everyone goes crazy. I would rather microsoft show games running on durango. Killzone 2 never forget.
 

C4Lukins

Junior Member
This is funny. All Rein is saying is that the MS has not announced the 720 yet to the public, so developers are not allowed to talk about it, and you should not take anything meaningful from that. The OP does not even understand what he was quoting.
 

jaypah

Member
So they show off the new hardware and then a couple days later they cancel their April event?

Do you mean they showed the hardware behind closed doors and still (supposedly) pushed back their (rumored) announcement? Yeah, why not? I don't see what one has to do with the other. Updating and talking to developers isn't on some timeline attached to when they actually start marketing their product.
 

JJD

Member
Te april reveal was always a rumor. The delay to may is also a rumor. They kind of cancel each other out.

The April reveal wasn't a rumor. MS people confirmed the delay on twitter.

The fact that the event wasn't officially announced doesn't change nothing.
 

harSon

Banned
Yup, all those rumours of how much worse it's going to be are really helping them out.

First of all, the most hardcore of the hardcore gamers, ie. the types of gamers that are on forums such as GAF and in a position to stay on top of console rumors, do not decide console generations anymore. They haven't dictated the direction of the industry since the Playstation 1.

Second of all, rumors, assuming they're just that, aren't going to mean a damn thing once the console is officially unveiled and facts begin to trickle out. It's not like Microsoft is going to unveil the console, potentially prove that the rumors were incorrect, and gamers are going to refuse to purchase the console due to the fact that the rumors surrounding the Next Xbox prior to its announcing were negative.
 

R3TRODYCE

Member
So I guess Phil Spencer's visit to Europe two weeks ago was successful.

In his tweet he mentioned a visit to Crytek to see Ryse and to Lionhead and I imagine a few more of their teams and partners over here.

Can't wait to see what they've been working on.

RYSE is still on? Cool beans.
 

Foxix Von

Member
Sony shows games running on pc and everyone goes crazy. I would rather microsoft show games running on durango. Killzone 2 never forget.

Huh? That doesn't even make any sense. Killzone 2 was first shown with a target render. Everything shown at Sony's last conference was running off of dev kits. The Shadowfall demo was played live.
 
Sony didn't show us the console. They didn't show us much of the Gaikai Playstation 4 features, and instead, made a series of promises. We didn't see much of the OS, or evolution of PSN from the Playstation 3 to the Playstation 4.

Microsoft has a history of not showing stuff until its far enough along that they can demo it to an audience, especially within the video game space. That's why they tend to not announce video games 2-3 years ahead, and instead, wait until it's playable which tends to be months to one year out from the games actual release.

Im not sure if this is right but i remember them saying Gaikai will come in phases, so it won't be like what they show right away but in increments i guess
 

Mifune

Mehmber
Microsoft has a history of not showing stuff until its far enough along that they can demo it to an audience, especially within the video game space. That's why they tend to not announce video games 2-3 years ahead, and instead, wait until it's playable which tends to be months to one year out from the games actual release.

Sorry but this is not true. Every company announces games way in advance. Microsoft revealed Alan Wake, Too Human, Gears of War, Crackdown, Milo, the Peter Jackson project that never materialized, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, long before they were released or even able to be demoed onstage.
 

Reiko

Banned
Sorry but this is not true. Every company announces games way in advance. Microsoft revealed Alan Wake, Too Human, Gears of War, Crackdown, Milo, the Peter Jackson project that never materialized, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect, long before they were released or even able to be demoed onstage.

And most recently... Ryse.
 
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