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Thief on PS4 looks 'almost identical' to PC version, runs on Unreal Engine 3
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shinobi602
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He said almost identical.
Glass Rebel
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Mine was a joke as well. But not about the looks.
I think it's best to remember that compared to PC version of say BF3, Deus Ex did not hold up (unmodified). So when they say "very close to" I find it surprising since the initial bar is set not so high.
I just hope that in the end, the graphics are serviceable and consistent instead being a detriment.
I just hope that in the end, the graphics are serviceable and consistent instead being a detriment.
Tummi Gummi
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The games didn't always reflect that.
The 360 port of Doom 3 was sub-30FPS.
Won out in other contemporary games as well.
Yep, regardless of individual components, multiplatform launch games on the 360 such as Oblivion were, at 720p, roughly on par with 50-60fps at high settings on the PC version (at 1280x1024 and above). Pretty impressive for the time, but still edged out by the high-end cards available at launch.
shinobi602
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Haha, I have absolutely no problems with PC versions of games looking better, that should be a foregone conclusion given the upgradeable natures of PCs. I'm just more than happy we're reaching amazing levels of fidelity on next-gen consoles. People get so caught up in this shit, as long as it looks great on my TV, that's all that matters
SniperHunter
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game looks pretty crappy imo...from what I have seen, there's no reason why PS360 couldn't run it. Maybe the shadow and the fog tech will be mind blowing...
1st Course
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The games didn't always reflect that.
The 360 port of Doom 3 was sub-30FPS.
Won out in other contemporary games as well.
I'm not sure why are you posting old games benchmarks, the 7800 GTX performed very badly on some of this gen games:
there are several videos on YouTube of the 7800 GTX struggling to run Skyrim at 8 FPS too.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Thats because all Shinobi cares about is games, we all need to learn from him.
mckmas8808
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What's dishonest about it?
I think it looks really good, but at the same time I think it looks like the PS4 should have no problem running it at 60fps.
Lovely Salsa
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I expect any game on PS4 thats using UE3 to run 1080p@60 fps
30 fps would be really REALLY lame
30 fps would be really REALLY lame
I wasn't talking about the news, I was talking about the user I was talking with, he said almost the same though, so point stands. Still AA and resolution should honestly not be close for a high end PC gamer who pushes his machine.
JonathanPower
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How so? With 32ROPs and 176Gb/sec. I would expect 1080p and at least 4xAA for the PS4.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
An engine doesn't have anything to do with the FPS.
It's not exactly hard to believe that a next gen system like the PS4 could run an UE3 game at 1080p max PC settings.
IonicSnake
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I think this was the most interesting part.
This is a good point - Cross-gen games and those based on older middleware will have a much better shot 60FPS on PS4 and Durango.
On a related note, it would be cool to see various 360/PS3 exclusives get "Full HD" re-releases at 1080p60 with lavish effects and great IQ.
I assume they mean current PS4 devkit hardware. Final devkits won't be available for a few more months.
Well, it can be a general indication of the kinds of effects a game uses and how demanding it will be. Anyone with a relatively new PC, for example, will tell you that UE3 games are generally not hard to max out.
shinobi602
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IonicSnake
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That's what I was thinking, I'm just glad they actually have a PS4 version running compared to the early PS3 days.
JonathanPower
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Why not? The 7950 has the same number of ROPs of the PS4 GPU. I don't see why the PS4 GPU should have troubles with AA.
Dead Prince
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Dat rumored event later this month / may maybe or E3? HYPE HYPE
BlackGoku03
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The PS4 is the Perfect PC... wait...
The PS4 is a low end PC... wait...
The PS4 is as powerful as my laptop... wait...
The PS4 has too much news... wait...
The PS4 something something Titan...
Everything I read from GAF is running in to each other! I'm not sure what the PS4 is!
I need to watch the conference again.
My guess is the response to underwhelming showing of PS4 Elemental was widespread enough that SquareEnix is concerned that PS4 early adopters might ignore Unreal Engine games. ie. Just another generation where Unreal games suck on Playstation platforms (at least as launch).
I'm curious about how a pc game wouldn't be compromised by hardware. Even without consoles, developers would still have some target spec.
I NEED SCISSORS
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It will probably be post-AA anyway.
Honestly I have zero problem with games continuing to use UE3. It's the art and the developer's utilization of it that's the deciding factor here, and this game (as well as BioShock Infinite and some of the UDK modelling demos for ZWEI) show that many people still using the engine actually know how to use it properly instead of doing a Gears re-skin. From what i've seen of a few UE4 and CryEngine 3 games, the developer's using them are making the same mistakes that early UE3 devs made (not modifying the engine enough to make the game aesthetics "theirs", and over-using built-in effects like chromatic aberration and I imagine the "shit smeared on the screen" effect too). And if UE3 means we get the next couple of year's games out quicker/cheaper, then so be it.
Dictator93
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And the Ps4 GPU is missing other things that a 7950 has... including the all so important CLOCK SPEED. YOU KNOW THE THING THAT MAKES IT RUN AS FAST AS IT DOES.
It's supercharged.
Yeah, it does make me question their competence a bit.
because developers will go with 1080p and maybe 4xAA. Also there is other things going on than ROPs when you render stuff at higher resolutions.
JonathanPower
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Clock speed has nothing to do with the impact of AA on a GPU, which is dependant on the fillrate. So if we are talking about AA and resolution I expect PS4 games to look really great.
Psycho_Mantis
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The emulator years down the road will probably be called PCS4.
ambientmystic
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UE3? Does that mean that my crappy ass laptop has a chance at running it like it does with Bioshock Infinite (at reasonable settings)? That's the biggest thing I took away from the OP. YES!
UE3 making my laptop last longer than it should have when it comes to gaming.
UE3 making my laptop last longer than it should have when it comes to gaming.
Will a $399 PC be as good as a PS4?
SniperHunter
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modified UE3...i think they are doing a lot of volumetric fogging, real time shadowing and lighting you don't see in typical ue games. but we need to see these things in motion, screens look kinda bad imo
Will the PS4 be $400?
I really doubt most PS4 games will run 4xAA. It would be nice, but I expect mostly some post-processing AA.
... and the fillrate depends on the clock speed -- among other things.
BlackGoku03
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Fuck! I forgot that one!
Especially when its a UE3 game, you would expect next gen systems to run an 8 year old engine at 1080p 60fps with max effects imo.
Cow Mengde
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Wait... UE3 at 30fps? On PS4? I thought it was PS3 at first.
JonathanPower
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It mostly depends on the number of ROPs. To feed the ROPs you need enough bandwidth and thus in the end it's all about the available bandwidth when we talk about the AA performance.