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Xing Interactive: Our sources say next Xbox will block used games, require online
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BruceLeeRoy
Banned
I keep on asking my sources about always online and they keep telling me its real. As far as big exclusives go I am just going off of logical assumptions. I agree that for MS to be going full steam down this road they must feel incredibly confident about the content they have locked up. Real confident.
Its not a conspiracy. Thats all devs are talking about.
travisbickle
Member
Petrae
Member
That's what the reveal will dispel. Focus will turn from rumors about always online & second-hand game use limitations to games, partnerships, services, and other features. Questions about the negative rumors will persist but the hype machine should be louder than the naysayers, at least for awhile.
Does it even have positive features?
/troll
But seriously, if these rumors are true it's no surprise there isn't anything that positive. Any actually positive features will be overshadowed by no used games and always online. Though I imagine a few of these are just piggybacking on the rumors we've heard in the past and sites are making their own rumors up.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
I really wish MS go ahead with this and fall flat on their a....
Actually no I'm joking.
Actually no I'm joking.
This new box is sounding like something way out there. Online only, no used games, everything is running in VMs.
We got a break and VGLeaks posted some positive rumors for Durango - $99 xbox, no mandatory online, ability to play used games ..
VGLeaks have been pretty solid so far so I dont see why we shouldnt trust them now. This "source" has yet to prove a track record as solid as VGLeaks'.
True Underdog
Member
It sounds like you don't want it anyway...so why do you care?
BronsonLee
Member
I wonder if they've crossed into the road of full on arrogance at this point. This could backfire entirely.
I honestly think they're more concerned about being a cable box at this stage. Everybody uses them. Imagine how much market they could cover.
This is what I was thinking...I'm sure if the rumors are true, Microsoft didn't make the decision lightly, and I'm sure they've talked to publishers, and will land a lot of big exclusives because of this. Apple follows the same restrictive strategy and it works pretty well for them, but Microsoft would have to have the games to back it up.
Sidewinder
Member
If MS could at least be so kind to announce when they'll show the new Xbox, all these rumours are making me dizzy.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
They are in for a rude awakening, in the same way they think 1 Pirated game = 1 lost sale.
The ONLY way this strategy works is if the significantly lower the RRP of new games. We know that wont happen.
lol, the day before launch:
"Oh we forget to tell you guys, but you can't play used games and stuff... ya.... Hope you guys have a great time picking up your new consoles tomorrow! *ugly Mattrick grin*"
Wickerbasket
Member
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Who are Xing and why should I believe they are privy to any information? Google suggests they make casual PC games.
Sure why not.
And while you're at it don't forget unlimited blowjobs and beer. The Durango will be able to provide both and all you need to do is wave your penis in front of the Kinect camera while making whale sounds.
BronsonLee
Member
Dude would get fired for pulling a stunt like that. Imagine the backlash!
SolidSnakex
Member
I'm not sure about CoD, but I absolutely wouldn't be shocked if MS had at least timed exclusivity for the next-gen verison of BF4. The fact that DICE refused to confirm a PS4 version after the BF4 unveiling was rather telling. They wouldn't even say that it was coming to next-gen consoles.
Crimson_Gold
Member
Lol, I literally fell out of my chair laughing at this
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
What console? They haven't announced anything yet so there is nothing to debunk
Uno Venova
Banned
They did confirm the PS4 version. http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/27/4151852/battlefield-4-17-minute-trailer
BradleyLove
Member
The offline gamer is useless to MS.
They won't pay for XBL. They won't buy XBLA games. They won't buy video content. They won't buy DLC. They won't subscribe to Random MS Service #7.
From MS's perspective offline users cost MS money (assuming the new Xbox is sold at a loss).
So why would MS support offline gamers? It doesn't make sense to their financial desires.
That's why they would do, dunno if they will.
They won't pay for XBL. They won't buy XBLA games. They won't buy video content. They won't buy DLC. They won't subscribe to Random MS Service #7.
From MS's perspective offline users cost MS money (assuming the new Xbox is sold at a loss).
So why would MS support offline gamers? It doesn't make sense to their financial desires.
That's why they would do, dunno if they will.
alexandros
Banned
CF_Fighter
Member
I want to meet whoever began the "Always-On" and "No Used Games" rumors and smack them upside their head. IMO these are two rumors that are way out of control and become the defining aspects of Next-Gen.
EDIT: Or I'm just a naive gamer hoping that the company that gave me many hours of gaming enjoyment isn't going down this truly anti-consumerist road while telling us these things are in the best interest of the consumer and gamer.
EDIT: Or I'm just a naive gamer hoping that the company that gave me many hours of gaming enjoyment isn't going down this truly anti-consumerist road while telling us these things are in the best interest of the consumer and gamer.
SolidSnakex
Member
Polygon was literally the only site that said they had confirmation of that. Whenever DICE was asked about it they'd say things like this
http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/battl...ttlefield_4_is_coming_to_ps4_or_xbox_720.html
Thats my argument too. All depends on the data they have about how much the average Gold person spends and how many there are.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Seems unlikely. They still buy the console, they still buy games and MS still get a somewhat healthy cut from both.
I'm sure they'd like everyone to be online, just like Sony would, but to cut off millions of potential customers because they don't go online is a bit silly. Also, there's no real conclusive evidence that people don't take their consoles online to download content. They may do this but are primarily offline gamers as it's not possible for them to keep their console online at all times.
Sorc3r3r
Member
I see thanks. ^^
If this is going to be true MS has to sugarcoat the pill with a LOT of sugar.
Napalm_Frank
Member
EA & Microsoft are rumoured to have a co-marketing deal on next-gen games (per CVG iirc). That would be explanation enough for EA's coyness on next-gen versions of games at this point. Don't think their behaviour is telling of more than that, necessarily.
That was me when I lived in college. However, I still needed an XBOX Live account to do that. The difference between the number of 360s sold and the number of Live members suggest a large number of owners never connect their system.
I'd still like one of the 'sources' to explain how Microsoft plans on giving up whole territories worldwide, since they don't even offer Live to every country they sell the system in. Or how they plan on convincing retailers in areas without a good internet infrastructure to sell the thing? Because this ongoing speculation without context makes zero sense.
McHuj
Member
They maybe "useless" but they're needed. They still provide the install base for third party software. It's like F2P games, only a small percentage of people spend the large sums of money, but you need all the users to provide the vibrant ecosystem.
Keep dreaming.
AHA-Lambda
Member
This, it's beyond absurd by this point. Sad thing is I bet when it's announced they still don't dispel these rumours.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
People really think that publishers are going to put their games only on 720 instead of using their own always online solution on PS4? Lmfao. There is nothing stopping PS4 games from being always online. I think upcoming PS3/360 games will be always online as well(if it happens). People who think publishers are just going to ignore ps4 are foolish. Online passes could also eliminate used game sells for PS4. Instead of just blocking multiplayer, they block the entire game. It's not really hard for PS4 to reach parity in terms of anti consumer stuff.
SolidSnakex
Member
Yeah, that's certainly a very real possibility. But could there be more to it? You have the Gerstmann quote, and some insiders have been suggesting that console exclusives aren't dead for either company. Are they just referring to snagging timed exclusivity for games like Bioshock or are we going to see some surprise big name exclusives? I just have the feeling that MS and EA have something bigger going on. And if this rumor does turn out to be true, then it would explain Gerstmann's comment about not necessarily agreeing with why some developers are choosing sides.
Impossibile to tell now. We don't know the launch date of Durango.
Giant Panda
Member
These rumors are tearing GAF apart! This is what happens when rumors that will not die go up against a company that will not comment.
TheNatural
My Member!
A big part of me hates this, but another part of me likes that fact that the piece of shit company known as Gamestop will suffer because of this.
Microsoft wouldn't be doing this if there wasn't some sort of accord with EA, Activision, and other big dogs as well.
Microsoft wouldn't be doing this if there wasn't some sort of accord with EA, Activision, and other big dogs as well.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
That shoukd be its own thread.