ArchedThunder
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So the truth is a bad thing now?
So he says..."Unfortunately, Chloe is lying. The money is not going to be used for life-saving surgery. It's going to be used for surgery that has very little; if anything at all to do with Chloe's physical health."
Because the people reading it are going to be satisfied with a vague reference to another kind of surgery right?
He didn't do anything wrong.
Was she/he convincing looking? I feel like this is very relevant.
the above article said:Let us address one significant moral matter before I dive into the rest of this: a woman has nearly died—she has been, and doubtless will continue to be, suffering from severe depression and dysphoria. In the throes of that depression she made an ill-advised choice: misrepresenting herself on IndieGogo to secure funding for SRS. In the grand scheme of things, this was a certain kind of fraud; but the crimes perpetrated against her were far greater and, without any doubt, validate her strenuous efforts to keep her true intentions secret. For many trans people, SRS is the definition of a lifesaving surgery; we have the misfortune of living in a society where this is not only poorly understood, but actively vilified, pathologised, and morally panicked about. Throughout Pinsof’s writing on the subject there is a very subtle underccurent of judgement and contempt—he writes on Twitter that “[the surgery] was non-vital, in the sense that her body would go on even if her mind couldn’t let it. But I understand you.” The last line was written to a woman criticising the fact that he diminished Sagal’s vital need; I’d gently posit that he does not actually understand.
Holy fucking shit. Idontwanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg.Was she/he convincing looking? I feel like this is very relevant.
And that justifies outing her?
You people are sick.
And that justifies outing her?
You people are sick.
Because it stops Chloe from spinning things and trying to solicit further donations under false pretenses.why does he even have to say that it's going to be used for any kind of surgery?
So he says..."Unfortunately, Chloe is lying. The money is not going to be used for life-saving surgery. It's going to be used for surgery that has very little; if anything at all to do with Chloe's physical health."
Because the people reading it are going to be satisfied with a vague reference to another kind of surgery right?
He didn't do anything wrong.
Was she/he convincing looking? I feel like this is very relevant.
And not outing her was the lesser of the two evils.nothing justifies outing her except when in a story like this and as a member of the LGBT community, no, I'm not sick.
She did something wrong and instead of doing the right thing and returning the money without harm done she decides to attempt suicide thus forcing his hand.
Either he doesn't tell someone the real reason and be called a monster for causing this or he does tell someone about the situation and is called a monster for outing her.
He was never going to win.
why does he even have to say that it's going to be used for any kind of surgery?
nothing justifies outing her except when in a story like this and as a member of the LGBT community, no, I'm not sick.
Anyone who is unaware of the situation or thinks he did nothing wrong, I implore you to read this post.
And not outing her was the lesser of the two evils.
It doesn't matter if they were satisfied though. That's all he had to say and that should have been the end of the story. He should have moved on to something else regardless if some felt they wanted more. People got their money back. The fraud was stopped. Reputation was ruined.
What? I don't understand what he did wrong
I guess if being called the reason a woman attempts suicide is the lesser of two evils...
trans people generally like their privacy (crazy I know)
She publicly stated that she had shrapnel in her leg from a car accident and was going to die from metal poisoning in months and solicited fraudulently for donations.
This has nothing to do with whether trans********************* people think that SRS is life saving and other people don't.
And that justifies outing her?
You people are sick.
So from this I gather the right to be gay / trans now trumps the right of free speech and the expectation of honesty or integrity on the part of journalists. :/
He should be fired.
I guess if being called the reason a woman attempts suicide is the lesser of two evils...
trans people generally like their privacy (crazy I know)
There's a host of problems with his behavior in general, it looks like. Breaking the information publicly was the right thing to do, but it's how he did it and how he interacted with Chloe (letting himself get blackmailed) that's the larger issue.What? I don't understand what he did wrong
She publicly stated that she had shrapnel in her leg from a car accident and was going to die from metal poisoning in months and solicited fraudulently for donations.
This has nothing to do with whether trans********************* people think that SRS is life saving and other people don't.
I guess if being called the reason a woman attempts suicide is the lesser of two evils...
It doesn't matter if they were satisfied though. That's all he had to say and that should have been the end of the story. He should have moved on to something else regardless if some felt they wanted more. People got their money back. The fraud was stopped. Reputation was ruined.
He reported the truth and got punished for it. What has journalism come to?
trans people generally like their privacy (crazy I know)
If you want the personal details of your life kept personal then you cannot involve yourself in public fraud. At that point you have opened the door to the details of that fraud and there it blows my mind that people want to level blame on the man who caught her.
Wouldn't she have forfeited her right to privacy once she appealed for public support and funds?
Agree with all your points, my post wasn't my views its how I see things are going. I didnt mean the LGBT community had power, I meant Destructoid doesn't want someone writing a negative article about them so they take action on the person that could cause that article.
I don't understand the marriage thing, that's so unbelievable that in this day and age people are still so ignorant.
I'm Canadian and I don't see these issues come up a lot in my day to day life.
For the sake of clarity: Do you agree or disagree with the actions taken against him?
I came here to post this, but you beat me to it.
She opened the door by lying. Someone was going to expose her at some point. She only has herself to blame.
With that said, the writer could have definitely handled the situation better.
trans people generally like their privacy (crazy I know)
The Bill of Rights said:Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
About Destructoid firing/suspension? I'm not sure, the situation is just too complex. I just knew there was gonna be an inevitable fall out when he was saying how the surgery isn't life saving, calling Chloe a 'he' and seeing countless tweets made against him because of those trans-gender tweets.