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[Conor 419]

Halo 2 HD
Crackdown 3
Forza 5
Fable 5
Viva Pinata 3 Kinect
Kameo 2
Gears of War 4

Why is there the assumption that an aesthetically pleasing list of games is going to be enough to tide over the wave of incompetence we've witnessed over the last few years?

It's worth reminding ourselves that Halo, Fable, Gears and Forza have all been handled in an overwhelmingly bad fashion over the last few years. Halo 4 was forced out despite it being nowhere near ready for meeting the series standard. Forza has been overused and Fable (by all accounts) has been killed. What faith do we have that Rare and Lionhead are remotely capable of delivering titles that will live up to their peak points? Gears is also well overdue to go third party, I think you're putting in a bit too much faith across the board.

There's also the assumption that these OH MY GOD SEVEN NEW IP'S are all going to be good, interesting titles that are going to appeal to you. Microsoft put out seven exclusive new IP's in 2012 as well, all of them were Kinect games.

 

[Nebula]

Didn't they say you could share games on the same console

Me and my Bro share games but have seperate consoles. It's a reason for us both to not want it.

It's hard to imagine it was that bad. If Sony announced free online and no used game blocking I am done.

Pretty much waiting on this and the line up of games.

It's worth reminding ourselves that Halo, Fable, Gears and Forza have all been handled in an overwhelmingly bad fashion

I agree on all of them but Forza. They've made great games and done very well at interacting with the community.

 

[Shadders]

8 New IP's & 7 Old IP's

What 7 IPs do Microsoft have?

Forza
Halo
PGR
Fable
Kinect Sports
Gears

...

Kinectimals? I guess there could be 2 Halo titles within the first 12 months.

 

[Fotos]

Halo 2 HD
Crackdown 3
Forza 5
Fable 5
Viva Pinata 3 Kinect
Kameo 2
Gears of War 4

Do people actually think there is going to be a Halo 2 HD this year or is that a joke.

Perfect Dark?
Stubbs the Zombie?

 

[Nebula]

If they spend more than 5 minutes on Kinect titles at E3 I'm done.

 

[The Real Napsta]

lmao, XO can't use 360 controllers even though they are essentially the same thing.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Why is there the assumption that an aesthetically pleasing list of games is going to be enough to tide over the wave of incompetence we've witnessed over the last few years?

It's worth reminding ourselves that Halo, Fable, Gears and Forza have all been handled in an overwhelmingly bad fashion over the last few years. Halo 4 was forced out despite it being nowhere near ready for meeting the series standard. Forza has been overused and Fable (by all accounts) has been killed. What faith do we have that Rare and Lionhead are remotely capable of delivering titles that will live up to their peak points?

Gears is also well overdue to go third party, I think you're putting in a bit too much faith across the board.

For me its better than the other exclusives. Uncharted has no appeal to me, Killzone neither. God of war is great But 1 =/= 8. GT and Forza are close matched. The point is I'd rather be playing that list than whatever IP's sony have shown off.

 

[Mix]

Since no one gave a shit at midnight, I called out the Xbox reveal being tied to HGS and the reason being was that Dan mattrick looks like a bunny rabbit.

 

[Poker Face]

What 7 IPs do Microsoft have?

Forza
Halo
PGR
Fable
Kinect Sports
Gears

...

Kinectimals? I guess there could be 2 Halo titles within the first 12 months.

They have Rare's old IPs: Killer Instinct, Conker, Banjo, etc. Maybe one of those is included? There was a thread on the gaming side about how Rare was bringing something back.

Spoiler

pls be killer instinct

 

[Fotos]

What about a Halo game that is based off the TV show that is based off the game.

 

[Nebula]

What about a Halo game that is based off the TV show that is based off the game.

DEFIANCEPTION

 

[Conor 419]

For me its better than the other exclusives. Uncharted has no appeal to me, Killzone neither. God of war is great But 1 =/= 8. GT and Forza are close matched. The point is I'd rather be playing that list than whatever IP's sony have shown off.

What about Littlebigplanet, The Last Guardian and countless other Sony IP?

Also really? So even as a UK citizen (apparently) you're going to be more than pleased to put up with the sheer devesation this system is going to deliver? No used games, mandatory online and Kinect etc?

There is no way the combination of second rate iterations of Microsoft's IP with their terrible consumer relationships is going to have me choose their system over the PS4 and certainly not the Wii U.

 

[Nebula]

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Dead.

 

[Fotos]

What about Littlebigplanet, The Last Guardian and countless other Sony IP?

Also really? So even as a UK citizen (apparently) you're going to be more than pleased to put up with the sheer devesation this system is going to deliver? No used games, mandatory online and Kinect etc?

There is no way the combination of second rate iterations of Microsoft's IP with their terrible consumer relationships is going to have me choose their system over the PS4 and certainly not the Wii U.

There are used games but you have to pay a small extra fee to purchase them and it doesn't always have to be online.

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Dead.

If used games were as much as new games than why would they even have them in the first place?

 

[Hypertrooper]

What is the story about Spielberg? The official Halo facebook page reports that he will direct the TV series, but the majority of sites report that he is the executive producer on the show... What is true now? Will we find out today? At the moment I am excited that we will get a TV series, but I am worried. What is the budget? How big? Which time does it play? Do I need to change my pants again? etc. I am optimistic because Forward Unto Dawn was ace. (Except for the writing at some points, but overall nice.)

What 7 IPs do Microsoft have?

Forza
Halo
PGR
Fable
Kinect Sports
Gears

...

Kinectimals? I guess there could be 2 Halo titles within the first 12 months.

You forgot tons of IPs from the studios, Microsoft acquired over the past year. And don't expect that they 15 titles will be all retail titles. They can be downloadable games as well.

I'd put money on Gears going multiplatform this generation. Epic just can't justify the money Microsoft gives for exclusivity against the decline in its brand, especially after the flop Judgment was.

It's already facing intense competition from Destiny, Battlefield, Call of Duty in multiplatform and then will have to compete against the likes of Halo or Killzone in exclusives.

Look how big Bioshock, Mass Effect and other IP's have gotten by going multiplatform.

On an unrelated note, looks like all the comments, gifs, guilted Tashi into shaving his head completely.

lol. Gears Of War is dead. It will never reach his peak again.

 

[Conor 419]

There are used games but you have to pay a small extra fee to purchase them and it doesn't always have to be online.

Direct source?

 

[HigherLevel]

Gears of War isn't dead. Gears 3 sold 3.3 million copies first week, Judgment sold poorly because nobody knew it existed.

 

[Nebula]

Gears of War isn't dead. Gears 3 sold 3.3 million copies first week, Judgment sold poorly because nobody knew it existed.

Judgement was the only Gears I saw advertised on my TV. Also it's the first game I ejected after 10 minutes of playing it. Closely followed by Dead Island Riptide at 30 minutes.

PSA: Don't buy either of those games.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

What about Littlebigplanet, The Last Guardian and countless other Sony IP?

Also really? So even as a UK citizen (apparently) you're going to be more than pleased to put up with the sheer devesation this system is going to deliver? No used games, mandatory online and Kinect etc?

There is no way the combination of second rate iterations of Microsoft's IP with their terrible consumer relationships is going to have me choose their system over the PS4 and certainly not the Wii U.

You seem mad.

LBP is garbage, The Last Guardian is again a single game so thats GoW and TLG

2 =/= 8

Like is said I don't buy used games, Kinect is not the end of the world and my console is online 24/7 as it is.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

$8 for <1MB internet on a plane seems like an outrage. Yet then I think "internet" on a flying machine, and pay for it anyways.

 

[Nebula]

You're all arguing over games when we don't even know them all yet. E3 people.

 

[Fracas]

We should do a "for or against" headcount.

You're all arguing over games when we don't even know them all yet. E3 people.

Aside from Alan Wake, I don't care about Microsoft's IPs at all. As for new franchises...I can't see them doing anything different.

 

[squidhands]

Judgement was the only Gears I saw advertised on my TV. Also it's the first game I ejected after 10 minutes of playing it. Closely followed by Dead Island Riptide at 30 minutes.

PSA: Don't buy either of those games.

So you're giving your copy of GOW:J away?

 

[IHaveIce]

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Dead.

Holy shit, perfection

 

[Nebula]

So you're giving your copy of GOW:J away?

My Dad already laid claim to it. He's a massive GOW fan. Riptide was my brothers and he's trading it in. He said it's the worst purchase he ever made.

 

[Conor 419]

You seem mad.

LBP is garbage, The Last Guardian is again a single game so thats GoW and TLG

2 =/= 8

Like is said I don't buy used games, Kinect is not the end of the world and my console is online 24/7 as it is.

What are the eight again?

I mean Halo, Fable, Crackdown, Alan Wake and the entirety of Rare are dead, also Gears is about to go third party, so that leaves a weakening Forza IP and...?

 

[StalkerUKCG]

My Dad already laid claim to it. He's a massive GOW fan. Riptide was my brothers and he's trading it in. He said it's the worst purchase he ever made.

Riptide looked garbage but I really enjoyed the GoW:J campaign

 

[Nebula]

Riptide looked garbage but I really enjoyed the GoW:J campaign

Riptide is boring. It would have sold better, and made more sense, as a DLC for Dead Island. GoW:J bored me as well and it felt off the entire time I played it.

 

[Woorloog]

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Dead.

Sunhi-gif?

 

[Nebula]

Sunhi-gif?

Aye lad.

 

[Gui_PT]

"Console uses a large external power brick (Conflirmed by DF/Wired)"

Oh COME ON

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

What are the eight again?

I mean Halo, Fable, Crackdown, Alan Wake and the entirety of Rare are dead, also Gears is about to go third party, so that leaves a weakening Forza IP and...?

Where do you get this bullshit man?

 

[Nebula]

"Console uses a large external power brick (Conflirmed by DF/Wired)"

Oh COME ON

I thought it had an internal. This information free for all is getting tiresome.

 

[Tashi]

Sony's first party and exclusive list has proven to be pretty robust over the last few years. I don't think they have a game that's as good or as big as the biggest first party title from MS though(sadly).

MGS needs to grow and MS needs new IPs. Really glad to hear that there are a good amount coming but we'll see just how good they are eventually.

First year XB1 has Forza at launch, H2A a year later and then apparently 13 other exclusives. That sounds pretty sick to me. Who knows what we'll get from XBLA too. Sounds like a much better first year to me than what we got with the 360.

 

[Woorloog]

Sony's first party and exclusive list has proven to be pretty robust over the last few years. I don't think they have a game that's as good or as big as the biggest first party title from MS though(sadly).

MGS needs to grow and MS needs new IPs. Really glad to hear that there are a good amount coming but we'll see just how good they are eventually.

First year XB1 has Forza at launch, H2A a year later and then apparently 13 other exclusives. That sounds pretty sick to me. Who knows what we'll get from XBLA too. Sounds like a much better first year to me than what we got with the 360.

Ya know, it is funny how we take that for granted, despite Frankie constantly denying its existence.
Though i think he did deny HCEA before its reveal...

 

[gAg CruSh3r]

The thing I'm very excited is the dedicated online server for the XB1.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

What are the eight again?

I mean Halo, Fable, Crackdown, Alan Wake and the entirety of Rare are dead, also Gears is about to go third party, so that leaves a weakening Forza IP and...?

You are writing a lot off.

Halo could still be strong (I'm in it for the campaign and the social aspect now)
Fable can come back, I never had any real issue with any fable titles
Crackdown 2 was garbage but it could be a infamous competitor
Rare made Kameo and Viva Pinata last gen which were great.
Gears going 3rd party is entirely in your head
Forza is as strong as ever

Killzone is dead, SF looks pretty but its such a dull series
Uncharted has reached its peak
God of War has been on the decline since GoW2
Little Big Planet is garbage
Infamous has always been bland
Star/War Hawk is one of the worst series iv played
Resistance likely won't ever see future titles and they sucked
Allstars is a bad smash bros clone
Gran Turismo is as strong as Forza they are virtually the same game
The Last Of Us looks interesting

What are these amazing 1st party sony titles pulling you towards the ps4?

Strong first party titles are scarce on any platform the real meat of gaming these days are 3rd party annualized titles like FIFA or Assassins Creed or Call of Duty and Grand Theft Auto, Battlefield.

Nothing from Sony holds any interest for me with the exception of God Of War which needs a real shake up.

 

[Nebula]

The thing I'm very excited is the dedicated online server for the XB1.

Yeah this could be a massive game changer.

 

[Woorloog]

The thing I'm very excited is the dedicated online server for the XB1.

Servers off-line, you can't do anything. And just to spite players, all sorts of custom games also need dedis for no reason whatsoever.
Also, Live subs to $15 per month. And more ads.

That's the future i see.

Nah, seriously, dedis are good but they don't magically guarantee good gaming experience* or anything.

*BF3 and its dedis come to mind. People run shit servers, DICE/EA don't run servers, or when they do, they're also shit, having all maps or silly selection of game types or some other crap.

 

[FUBAR McDangles]

People keep saying either Halo 2 Anniversary can't come out because of the 9th year anniversary thing, or 2014 belongs to Halo 5 and they won't release two in one year.

But what about launching Halo 2 Anniversary in early January of 2014? Get in on that Christmas cash, while also being out during the 10th anniversary year.

 

[Risen]

Gears of War isn't dead financially. Gears 3 sold 3.3 million copies first week, Judgment sold poorly because it was a retread of Gears 3.

Fixed that for ya'

 

[Nebula]

Servers off-line, you can't do anything. And just to spite players, all sorts of custom games also need dedis for no reason whatsoever.
Also, Live subs to $15 per month. And more ads.

That's the future i see.

Nah, seriously, dedis are good but they don't magically guarantee good gaming experience* or anything.

*BF3 and its dedis come to mind. People run shit servers, DICE/EA don't run servers, or when they do, they're also shit, having all maps or silly selection of game types or some other crap.

Yeah but they tend to give a more stable experience as long as it stays in the hands of the game developer. Player Owned Servers can also be great but the majority suck. Hopefully customs will be player side though and every game should have peer 2 peer as a back up system if the servers were to ever go down.

 

[BlueScrote]

What about Littlebigplanet, The Last Guardian and countless other Sony IP?

Also really? So even as a UK citizen (apparently) you're going to be more than pleased to put up with the sheer devesation this system is going to deliver? No used games, mandatory online and Kinect etc?

There is no way the combination of second rate iterations of Microsoft's IP with their terrible consumer relationships is going to have me choose their system over the PS4 and certainly not the Wii U.

The Last Guardian? Sony does have good IP but to spout a game that has been in development hell this entire generation and hasn't been released yet?

 

[nbraun80]

Direct source?

Major Nelson's blog on used games:
"We know there is some confusion around used games on Xbox One and wanted to provide a bit of clarification on exactly what we’ve confirmed today. While there have been many potential scenarios discussed, today we have only confirmed that we designed Xbox One to enable our customers to trade in and resell games at retail.

Beyond that, we have not confirmed any specific scenarios."

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Every IP they show at E3 is just icing on the cake for me.

Forza Motorsports 5 as a launch title already ensures me being there Day One.

A 'historical" Rare game (assuming it's good) sounds amazing. Quantum Theory looked interesting. I'm sure a few of the other 15 Exclusives will Interest me.

My Xbox One sounds like it's good. Picking up Day One with Forza Motorsports 5, Rare's New Game (Banjo Threeie please), Call of Duty Ghost (to hold me over while I wait for Halo 2 Anniversary) amd Battlefield 4, and any of the other games that interest me.

Also, I just want to tell some of you, how much I envy the amount of time you guys had with Halo. I really wish my first Halo game wasn't Halo 3. I got to enjoy Halo for >3 years before it was ruined. The first Halo game I really got hyped for was Reach, and we saw how that came out. I pretty much never got to experience Halo 2 online (hence why I want Halo 2 Anniversary I think lol)

I wish I could have experienced the franchise at it's peak.

 

[Woorloog]

Yeah but they tend to give a more stable experience as long as it stays in the hands of the game developer. Player Owned Servers can also be great but the majority suck. Hopefully customs will be player side though and every game should have peer 2 peer as a back up system if the servers were to ever go down.

Perhaps.
But i don't trust them to stay in hands of the devs. And for some reason, player-handled servers are always so much more popular.

Though as long as i can always get to play games with vanilla settings (ie in BF3's case, no extra tickets, or in Halo 4 just normal Infinity BTB*, etc.) i don't care whether the system utilizes dedis or P2P, player- or dev-handled.

*Fuck voting/vetoing

 

[Fracas]

Every IP they show at E3 is just icing on the cake for me.

Forza Motorsports 5 as a launch title already ensures me being there Day One.

A 'historical" Rare game (assuming it's good) sounds amazing. Quantum Theory looked interesting. I'm sure a few of the other 15 Exclusives will Interest me.

My Xbox One sounds like it's good. Picking up Day One with Forza Motorsports 5, Rare's New Game (Banjo Threeie please), Call of Duty Ghost (to hold me over while I wait for Halo 2 Anniversary) amd Battlefield 4, and any of the other games that interest me.

Also, I just want to tell some of you, how much I envy the amount of time you guys had with Halo. I really wish my first Halo game wasn't Halo 3. I got to enjoy Halo for >3 years before it was ruined. The first Halo game I really got hyped for was Reach, and we saw how that came out. I pretty much never got to experience Halo 2 online (hence why I want Halo 2 Anniversary I think lol)

I wish I could have experienced the franchise at it's peak.

You did!

 

[Tashi]

Fixed that for ya'

Also Unreal Engine gives Epic tons of money every year. They continue to afford Gears of War. It would be quite valuable to them too to showcase Unreal Engine 4.

 

[BlueScrote]

Also Unreal Engine gives Epic tons of money every year. They continue to afford Gears of War. It would be quite valuable to them too to showcase Unreal Engine 4.

Yeah, Gears has kind of became their showcase for the unreal engine after that crapped out Unreal Tournament 3.

 

[gAg CruSh3r]

Servers off-line, you can't do anything. And just to spite players, all sorts of custom games also need dedis for no reason whatsoever.
Also, Live subs to $15 per month. And more ads.

That's the future i see.

Nah, seriously, dedis are good but they don't magically guarantee good gaming experience* or anything.

*BF3 and its dedis come to mind. People run shit servers, DICE/EA don't run servers, or when they do, they're also shit, having all maps or silly selection of game types or some other crap.

-I thought you can still watch movies and play single player games without online?

-They have not even confirmed what the pricing for live is yet?