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[NoRéN]

Not true in my situation. I'm the one with the higher sex drive. So glad she lets me see other people.

 

[Deified Data]

Actually, re-reading the first paragraph - didn't another study say that women have more difficulty with monogamy a while back?

Some women. Like some men. Just evopsych mumbo-jumbo.

 

[Dany]

What an incredibly fascinating article.

 

[botty]

Not true in my situation. I'm the one with the higher sex drive. So glad she lets me see other people.

That's nice of her. Is she one of them wholesome Pasadena girls?

 

[Conciliator]

Here is that thread that some people are referring to incidentally, Devo posted it a couple weeks ago.

 

[Savitar]

I'm ready to test this out.

You know....for science.

Science is my penis.

 

[Batman]

This post is so myopic i hope you don't see the ban hammer coming.

The point for this is to dispel the pervasive myth that women are sexually passive and driven by strictly emotional needs. It doesn't mean that every woman is a sex maniac, but what is more important is allowing them to craft their own sexual identity, not be pushed into a certain box based on how we think they should act.

So you wish for me to be banned for saying that these articles that are always being published contradicting each other are a joke? I don't understand why you even had to write your first sentence. Within both genders and sexes every single being is different and can't be put into categories. This whole " revelation " that people think they are discovering about women is because they have been suppressed in everything known to man and especially when it comes to sexuality.

 

[ronito]

So you wish for me to be banned for saying that these articles that are always being published contradicting each other are a joke? I don't understand why you even had to write your first sentence. Within both genders and sexes every single being is different and can't be put into categories. This whole " revelation " that people think they are discovering about women is because they have been suppressed in everything known to man and especially when it comes to sexuality.

Obviously Batman can't handle it.
Such a man.

 

[FutureZombie]

Explain the following:

1. Female prostitutes outnumbering male prostitutes 1,000,000 to 1.

2. Bar population being 6 to 1 male to female.

3. Men outnumbering women 3 to 1 on online dating sites.



It seems to me that there are many people who keep hyping women's sexuality because they believe that if women do not have as strong a sex drive as men, that somehow makes women inferior. As if having a high sex drive matters in any way. Woman can be equal to men without actually being the same as men. Male characteristics are not necessarily desirable or necessary for equality to exist.

 

[Batman]

Obviously Batman can't handle it.
Such a man.

I don't understand what that means.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I wish mine was high. Ah well.

"Sorry I don't feel like it today."

"BUT SCIENCE SAYS..."

"Fuck science, anecdotes tell me different."

In general I agree, but the contents of this book aren't going to be as meaningful as the reaction to it. Take everything with a grain of salt until all the academics have finished arguing about it. Without specifically commenting on this book, it's very common for "shocking" and "groundbreaking" books to cherry pick science that supports their position and ignore or minimize the importance of contradictory findings. Especially when politics and science collide.

 

[Liquidsnake]

My Gf is happy with the 1-2 times a week we do it.



Or is she?

 

[ronito]

I don't understand what that means.

Spoiler

Joke at the condescending title. Apparently I couldn't handle joke well either. And I'm a man too! Oh man it's right!

 

[Dany]

Explain the following:

1. Female prostitutes outnumbering male prostitutes 1,000,000 to 1.

2. Bar population being 6 to 1 male to female.

3. Men outnumbering women 3 to 1 on online dating sites.

None of this is related to the article whatsoever.

 

[BobLoblaw]

I'm not sure how reliable the study is, but I really do think a woman's sex drive has to do with 1) how good the partner is at foreplay, 2) how attractive the partner is, and 3) how good the other person is at sex. Yep, those are pretty basic, but I'm guessing that a woman with an average to below average sex drive would be up for sexing all the time if someone that looked like Ryan Gosling or Idris Elba was also amazing at 1 and 3.

 

[User 100115]

Explain the following:

1. Female prostitutes outnumbering male prostitutes 1,000,000 to 1.

2. Bar population being 6 to 1 male to female.

3. Men outnumbering women 3 to 1 on online dating sites.

I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread again but...

Go back and look at threads where Gaf has discussed how many sexual partners a woman has to have before she is labeled 'dirty' and a 'slut'. Of course women aren't going to be as upfront about their sexuality as men are. When they DO express the fact that hey, sex is awesome and enjoyable, they are labeled as sluts and shamed.

 

[Moral Panic]

"Sorry I don't feel like it today."

"BUT SCIENCE SAYS..."




In general I agree, but the contents of this book aren't going to be as meaningful as the reaction to it. Take everything with a grain of salt until all the academics have finished arguing about it. Without specifically commenting on this book, it's very common for "shocking" and "groundbreaking" books to cherry pick science that supports their position and ignore or minimize the importance of contradictory findings. Especially when politics and science collide.

I still don't understand. This is just a book someone wrote? Not a peer-reviewed study or something of that sort?

 

[Vermillion]

Some women. Like some men. Just evopsych mumbo-jumbo.

Natch. Generalizations must be made for such studies. Though I don't quite get what you mean by "evopsych mumbo-jumbo"...

Here is that thread that some people are referring to incidentally, Devo posted it a couple weeks ago.

There we go! So that's two separate studies saying the same thing, now.

 

[Guevara]

And why isn't there a porn industry for women? I mean if they are too afraid of being "shamed" and yet have higher desires than men porn would be a no-brainer (at home, in private, etc.)

I feel like I read one of these articles every few years.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

Explain the following:

1. Female prostitutes outnumbering male prostitutes 1,000,000 to 1.

2. Bar population being 6 to 1 male to female.

3. Men outnumbering women 3 to 1 on online dating sites.



It seems to me that there are many people who keep hyping women's sexuality because they believe that if women do not have as strong a sex drive as men, that somehow makes women inferior. As if having a high sex drive matters in any way. Woman can be equal to men without actually being the same as men. Male characteristics are not necessarily desirable or necessary for equality to exist.

All of those are quite easily explained by the fact that women have sexually repressed for much of human history. If you sleep with a large number of women as a man, the cultural response varies between positive ("you dawg, you!"), to no worse than slightly negative. Meanwhile, slut-shaming is a phenomena that sadly still exists in the present day and actively persecutes women who are promiscuous. The fact that we see women being sexual initiators less often means very little when they are operating under a greater amount of constraints - a fair comparison can't be made until sexual attitudes between men and women reach some kind of parity.

EDIT: Generally I agree with ThoseDeafMutes, though. The article is not particularly well-written, so waiting for the source and seeing how it withstands criticism might do us somewhat better.

 

[The Librarian]

"Sorry I don't feel like it today."

"BUT SCIENCE SAYS..."

I take it back. I'm glad. Less relationship bullshit I have to deal with!

 

[Mumei]

I see a lot of words but I don't see the testing methodology etc. Someone link me.

Did... did you read those words? If you're interested in more detail, I would suggest reading the book mentioned in the article, and then following the sources in that book to more direct studies.

Actually, re-reading the first paragraph - didn't another study say that women have more difficulty with monogamy a while back?

Yes, though I think that was for different reasons.

Without specifically commenting on this book, it's very common for "shocking" and "groundbreaking" books to cherry pick science that supports their position and ignore or minimize the importance of contradictory findings. Especially when politics and science collide.

This is true.

 

[blame space]

I am not ready for this jelly.

 

[Tallshortman]

Did they use my wife as their sample data?

(not so) stealth brag

 

[Rhomega Beta]

I masturbate 5-10 times in one day

Wow, where do you find the drive, or the stamina? I usually go 1-2 times in one day, and that's good enough for me.

On-topic, hooray for generalizations!

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I still don't understand. This is just a book someone wrote? Not a peer-reviewed study or something of that sort?

It's a book which makes reference to the science literature.

 

[mugurumakensei]

I can handle it thanks to advances in medicine. Thanks Cialis.

 

[Artemisia]

Explain the following:

1. Female prostitutes outnumbering male prostitutes 1,000,000 to 1.

2. Bar population being 6 to 1 male to female.

3. Men outnumbering women 3 to 1 on online dating sites.

All of these examples are related to how often sexuality is displayed, not sex drive itself.

I'm sure there are a wealth of reasons why women are less reluctant to be sexual, and none of them are related to sex drive.

 

[mr2xxx]

This thread reminded me of that gay vs lesbian divorce thread. Where lesbian divorced at a much higher rate than heterosexual couples while gays divorced at a much lower rate.

 

[Moral Panic]

It's a book which makes reference to the science literature.

But meta-studies, (I think that's what they're called) are still usually peer-reviewed in literature right?

 

[Byakuya769]

: /

 

[weepy]

Kelly, can you handle this?
Michelle, can you handle this?
Beyoncé, can you handle this?
I don't think they can handle this!

I imagined your avatar singing this. It was creepy.

 

[ronito]

In general I agree, but the contents of this book aren't going to be as meaningful as the reaction to it. Take everything with a grain of salt until all the academics have finished arguing about it. Without specifically commenting on this book, it's very common for "shocking" and "groundbreaking" books to cherry pick science that supports their position and ignore or minimize the importance of contradictory findings. Especially when politics and science collide.

I remember BYU did a study similar to that (about measuring blood flow and moisture as a way to measure arousal) and they found the same thing (women were turned on by more things and stronger than men) but they argued that in many cases the "women didn't know it". Where as a man always knows when things are going on down there. Seems tenuous

BYU...

 

[Jitters]

I don't think I can handle it.

 

[Batman]

All of those are quite easily explained by the fact that women have sexually repressed for much of human history. If you sleep with a large number of women as a man, the cultural response varies between positive ("you dawg, you!"), to no worse than slightly negative. Meanwhile, slut-shaming is a phenomena that sadly still exists in the present day and actively persecutes women who are promiscuous. The fact that we see women being sexual initiators less often means very little when they are operating under a greater amount of constraints - a fair comparison can't be made until sexual attitudes between men and women reach some kind of parity.

EDIT: Generally I agree with ThoseDeafMutes, though. The article is not particularly well-written, so waiting for the source and seeing how it withstands criticism might do us somewhat better.

Once society as a whole globally drops the idea that men should be the pursuers as the majority will things change. People are still under the assumption that a girl that asks a guy on a date must be a slut that gets around and that is why we have these problems to begin with. Many men are still under the idea that if a girl wants non sexual romance at first and is the initiator they are automatically promiscuous and should be denied.

 

[FutureZombie]

Why are people so uncomfortable with there being physical differences between men and women? Women need to stop striving to be more male. They can be equal while still having physical differences. This push to "prove" that women are more like men is misguided.

 

[kswiston]

In general I agree, but the contents of this book aren't going to be as meaningful as the reaction to it. Take everything with a grain of salt until all the academics have finished arguing about it. Without specifically commenting on this book, it's very common for "shocking" and "groundbreaking" books to cherry pick science that supports their position and ignore or minimize the importance of contradictory findings. Especially when politics and science collide.

I wish we had more links to the actual studies in these sorts of threads. A lot of psychology studies are performed almost exclusively on college students due to availability (You can force college students to participate for credit. I had to volunteer for 5 different studies as part of my course requirement in first year psych), and recent researchers have been noting that college students are about as far from representative of the adult population as you can get in a lot of ways.

It would be interesting to see a more systematic study, comparing men and women across age groups, relationship status (and relationship duration), and both before and after children. Even more interesting would be a longitudinal study tracking the same people at different stages of their lives. However, science funding is not unlimited.

But meta-studies, (I think that's what they're called) are still usually peer-reviewed in literature right?

Books rarely are.

 

[triplestation]

Wow, where do you find the drive, or the stamina? I usually go 1-2 times in one day, and that's good enough for me.

On-topic, hooray for generalizations!

It is my gift

My curse

 

[User 100115]

And why isn't there a porn industry for women? I mean if they are too afraid of being "shamed" and yet have higher desires than men porn would be a no-brainer (at home, in private, etc.)

I feel like I read one of these articles every few years.

You should check out the amazing amount of porn available for women via written erotica. Huge industry.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

But meta-studies, (I think that's what they're called) are still usually peer-reviewed in literature right?

Yes, but that doesn't mean a regular book published doesn't have merit. They're good for popularising concepts, since Joe Nobody reads precisely zero research every year but might pick up a couple of NYT bestsellers.

I take it back. I'm glad. Less relationship bullshit I have to deal with!

No relationship > No relationship bullshit.

I mastered this years ago!

 

[aceface]

My wife has as strong of a, if not stronger, sex drive than I do. It's rad.

This. We've been married for 12 years and while my sex drive has leveled off my wife's just keeps going up and up. The good part is we've been having the best sex of our relationship in the last year or two cause she's super into it.

 

[NathanMcMahon]

So why aren't they having sex with me?

Because your first name is Cow.

 

[Henchmen21]

Is sexologist even a real field? This "study" seems highly dubious to me.

 

[Bony Manifesto]

Go back and look at threads where Gaf has discussed how many sexual partners a woman has to have before she is labeled 'dirty' and a 'slut'. Of course women aren't going to be as upfront about their sexuality as men are. When they DO express the fact that hey, sex is awesome and enjoyable, they are labeled as sluts and shamed.

Funny how that works really. Women are shamed for having too many sexual partners, while men are shamed for having too few. I think it's one of those things where the grass seems greener on the other side!

Spoiler

Everyone should just stop shaming each other.

 

[Batman]

Funny how that works really. Women are shamed for having too many sexual partners, while men are shamed for having too few. I think it's one of those things where the grass seems greener on the other side!

Spoiler

Everyone should just stop shaming each other.

I wrote about that in my previous post. Once men and women are put on a level playing field in courting then that whole slut shaming thing will be dropped.

 

[Mumei]

Is sexologist even a real field?

Yes.

 

[captainnapalm]

That article really made my head hurt. And then all the bolded bits and the non bolded bits. As if the article wasn't already all over the place. Just such a mixed bag of claims and questions and answers. Valid points and wild assumptions and assertions.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I wish we had more links to the actual studies in these sorts of threads. A lot of psychology studies are performed almost exclusively on college students due to availability (You can force college students to participate for credit. I had to volunteer for 5 different studies as part of my course requirement in first year psych), and recent researchers have been noting that college students are about as far from representative of the adult population as you can get in a lot of ways.

Haha, if I had a dollar for every time I read "a sample of 30 psychology students aged 18-35 participating in exchange for course credit" during my Thesis lit review research...

You should check out the amazing amount of porn available for women via written erotica. Huge industry.

Fiction
Stranger than a lot of things.

 

[jon bones]

sounds about right

Bullshit

U don't ever see women hitting on men

I masturbate 5-10 times in one day

I need one of these imaginary women u speak of goddamn it

have you ever stopped to consider the fact that maybe you're just unpleasant and/or unattractive?

 

[IceCold]

So who wants to bang? There's a party in my pants and everyone's invited (well not everyone...)