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Lightning Returns Final Fantasy XIII dated: 2014/2/11 US & 2/14 Europe, E3 trailer

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
if that happens simply cancel the current gen orders...

Unfortunately my commitment to Lightning forces me to buy as many editions as possible. Luckily though I only play Final Fantasy today... or almost only. So instead of buying 6 games I buy 6 version of the same game! Even though I play them 6 times more or less, I balance!

lol.

Kill me.

Yup. Can compare the Versus PD1 Trailer and Jump Fiesta one. Small graphical assets are evident.

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HeelPower

Member
Unfortunately my commitment to Lightning forces me to buy as many editions as possible. Luckily though I only play Final Fantasy today... or almost only. So instead of buying 6 games I buy 6 version of the same game! Even though I play them 6 times more or less, I balance!

lol.

Kill me.



Like?

ok this is a sincere question...Do you really like XIII series as much as you say or are you being sarcastic to counter the haters ? x]
 

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
As someone who loves the Final Fantasy series but really didn't like FFXIII, should I be excited for this game? I haven't played FFXIII-2.

You should always be excited for the only big budget RPG Japan has to offer once in a while. We can't just play Btier Tales of and Neptunias you know...
 

Stark

Banned
I have never noticed similarities..would be happy if you point it out.

I was kinda joking, guys... but I guess it's sorta true with small things like those crystals, lol:

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Esura

Banned
You should always be excited for the only big budget RPG Japan has to offer once in a while. We can't just play Btier Tales of and Neptunias you know...

I could easily live off Tales of and Neptunia JRPGs for years if I wanted to.
 

Soriku

Junior Member
You should always be excited for the only big budget RPG Japan has to offer once in a while. We can't just play Btier Tales of and Neptunias you know...

This game looks pretty B-tier to me. Also Neptunia isn't B-tier like Tales.
 

Stark

Banned
I am not really hyped for this game but I will still get it day 1
This could be the only game I get this November.

I was excited for it, but I slowly realized I just want to play it to get the damn FNC stuff out of the way and was trying to justify a purchase.
 

Mr. RHC

Member
The past and the future of the series in one pic:


Hopefully Toriyama drops the bomb and reveals FFXV for PS4.

Why should Toriyama reveal FFXV? Why would anyone in Square Enix even tolerate such a thing, despite the fact that Lightning Returns is not even out yet and he won't ever direct a mainline FF game again.
 

Soriku

Junior Member
looks on par with assassin's creed game...There is nothing B-tier about this game honestly. I know people hate FFXIII but let's not change facts.

Are AC games even A-tier games? They pump those out every single year. Nothing about this game seems that big budget and people have already pointed out some issues like framerate in this thread.
 

Mario007

Member
You should always be excited for the only big budget RPG Japan has to offer once in a while. We can't just play Btier Tales of and Neptunias you know...
I think everyone can agree with this one. Fortunately the wait will be over soon with Versus showing up at Sony's conference in a few hours!! ;)
 

Mario007

Member
Are AC games even A-tier games? They pump those out every single year. Nothing about this game seems that big budget and people have already pointed out some issues like framerate in this thread.
I'd say AC games are definitely AAA, given how hundreds of people work on them. This game is nothing like AC games though. It maybe looks on par with AC1 graphically and that had a lot more going on with regards to the stealth system, climbing building and combat not taking place in a seperate screen.
 

Stark

Banned
Are AC games even A-tier games? They pump those out every single year. Nothing about this game seems that big budget and people have already pointed out some issues like framerate in this thread.

-tier depends on budget, so definitely.
 
looks on par with assassin's creed game...There is nothing B-tier about this game honestly. I know people hate FFXIII but let's not change facts.

AC: Brotherhood and AC: Revelations were pumped out in that time. However, AC I had 4 years; AC II had over 2 years with a 450 member team (twice the size of XIII's team); and AC III had about the same or bigger along with around 3 years of development time; and AC IV is rumored to have about 1,000 people across 7 different companies working on it.

AC: Brotherhood and AC: Revelations were clearly inbetween games made to finish up a plot line. They both had reused assets, a combat system they were tweaking at that point, lower production values, a much smaller production time, etc. AC I, II, III, and IV are clearly full AAA games with the full weight of the company behind it.

LR is being pumped out with only 14 months of full development (I'm being nice and assuming they'll be working all the way up to the end of October, though realistically only finishing touches will be made at that point), most of Lightning's animations seemed to have been reused from XIII (minor tweaks here or there not withstanding), we get to use only one character for a battle system meant for 3 characters at a time (and we went from 50 to 80 abilities along with Eidolons across six characters down to 12 abilities with one character . Even Dirge of Cerberus had enough common sense to not use VII's combat system sans everyone but Vincent!), the game will be the shortest of the trilogy (even if each day is 2 hours long, that's only 26 hours. XIII-2 was advertised as having a 30 to 40 hour main story and XIII was advertised as having a 50 to 60 hour main story), there are clear attempts to pad the game as much as possible, the visuals are clearly below that of XIII-2, and so on.

Look, maybe E3 will blow us all away. But for right now, LR has all the hallmarks of a rushed product. I want this to be a good game, but all I see is a train wreck. It's SE's job to impress, not mine to be impressed with whatever they throw at us.
 

Mario007

Member
AC: Brotherhood and AC: Revelations were pumped out in that time. However, AC I had 4 years; AC II had over 2 years with a 450 member team (twice the size of XIII's team); and AC III had about the same or bigger along with around 3 years of development time; and AC IV is rumored to have about 1,000 people across 7 different companies working on it.

AC: Brotherhood and AC: Revelations were clearly inbetween games made to finish up a plot line. They both had reused assets, a combat system they were tweaking at that point, lower production values, a much smaller production time, etc. AC I, II, III, and IV are clearly full AAA games with the full weight of the company behind it.

LR is being pumped out with only 14 months of full development (I'm being nice and assuming they'll be working all the way up to the end of October, though realistically only finishing touches will be made at that point), most of Lightning's animations seemed to have been reused from XIII (minor tweaks here or there not withstanding), we get to use only one character for a battle system meant for 3 characters at a time (and we went from 50 to 80 abilities along with Eidolons across six characters down to 12 abilities with one character . Even Dirge of Cerberus had enough common sense to not use VII's combat system sans everyone but Vincent!), the game will be the shortest of the trilogy (even if each day is 2 hours long, that's only 26 hours. XIII-2 was advertised as having a 30 to 40 hour main story and XIII was advertised as having a 50 to 60 hour main story), there are clear attempts to pad the game as much as possible, the visuals are clearly below that of XIII-2, and so on.

Look, maybe E3 will blow us all away. But for right now, LR has all the hallmarks of a rushed product. I want this to be a good game, but all I see is a train wreck. It's SE's job to impress, not mine to be impressed with whatever they throw at us.
QFT.
 

soulluos

Member
OK. Regarding the development time of LR. During an interview with a Chinese magazine, Toriyama mentioned that FFXIII-2 took 1.5 - 2 years to develop, and LR will take the same amount of time. The only difference is that they are doing more internal development.
 
I was about to post a link to the new video in a new topic... glad I saw this before I did!

Looks like the video's from the same demo I played at their pre-E3 event a few weeks back, but for some reason they omit the HUD from all of the battle screens. Don't know why... it's kind of misleading without them, and the HUD doesn't exactly make the game look bad. Oh well!
 

KPJZKC

Member
Wait...is this what we were told to be excited for a few months ago? I am not excited.

Somebody please tell me that this is not their only announcement.
 

Seda

Member
Wait...is this what we were told to be excited for a few months ago? I am not excited.

Somebody please tell me that this is not their only announcement.

They are announcing a new PS4 Final Fantasy game. It is likely Versus XIII - perhaps rebranded.
 

batbeg

Member
When that stupid Serah looking knockoff said "canyou" I punched my monitor and now I have glass in my hand.

Seriously, this looks... well, awful.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
That was amazing! I can't believe people who say the graphics look bad, they're awesome in my opinion. Gameplay looked fantastic, as expected!
Wait...is this what we were told to be excited for a few months ago? I am not excited.

Somebody please tell me that this is not their only announcement.
No, this isn't it.
 

Midou

Member
You should always be excited for the only big budget RPG Japan has to offer once in a while. We can't just play Btier Tales of and Neptunias you know...

Errr Neptunia is part of the Shit-tier of JRPGs this generation, like all Compile Hearts, Gust, Imageepoch sort of games.

Tales of Vesperia was one of the best RPGs this generation, it is actually quite good unlike that other filth. Graces F was okay, but Xillia looks quite great.

I'm okay with the Vesperia level of budget, the game looked nice, had a world map, towns, and was a good length.

Plus we just got Ni No Kuni not long ago, that also has all those things, plus 'airships'. Considering the Ghibli involvement, I'm sure the budget is high too.
 

Stuart444

Member
They are announcing a new PS4 Final Fantasy game. It is likely Versus XIII - perhaps rebranded.

Yup, looking very forward to finding out what it is. I just hope they show more of whatever it is. NO "We announce Final Fantasy XV for the PS4, here is a quick CG trailer that lasts under a minute and the logo for FFXV".

I want some juicy details please :(

Am I asking for too much?
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
When that stupid Serah looking knockoff said "canyou" I punched my monitor and now I have glass in my hand.

Seriously, this looks... well, awful.
Wow, that's a lot of anger...
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I love the scenario. Its Snows palace right? Looks super cool.
Dunno why, but it reminded me of the first parts in FFXII (when you play as Reks).
 

Persona86

Banned

Looks interesting, every time this game starts to grab my attention that cute girl ruins it. She seems annoying lol.

That was amazing! I can't believe people who say the graphics look bad, they're awesome in my opinion. Gameplay looked fantastic, as expected!

There's definitely a certain unique quality to the graphics, I honestly wouldn't be interested in this game if it wasn't for the gameplay changes and the Majora's Mask style time thingy bob.
So still keeping an eye on this, even thou I hate that cute looking girl lol. I'll probably buy this game, but Versus will be 10 times better IMO. ;)
 
Hope we get some longer demo sections soon. It amused me when Lightning said something like "There's gotta be a way to get through.." when she was standing next to a big red glowy button. :p

Also, I'd like to see if they have changed/updated the UI - I wasn't a big fan of the UI shown in the first trailer. I'm getting more interested, though!
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Hope we get some longer demo sections soon. It amused me when Lightning said something like "There's gotta be a way to get through.." when she was standing next to a big red glowy button. :p
Maybe this E3 we'll get a long gameplay demonstration video, just like we got with FFXIII-2 (the demo with Atlas).
 
I know I'm in the minority but I am somewhat looking forward to this game, it seems so far removed from XIII that its like some interesting parallel universe. Definitely looks to be the most interesting game in the trilogy so we'll see. Maybe not a day 1 purchase but I'm sure the game will drop to $40 in no time.

I'm sold on Lumina though, I love her creepy cuteness.
 
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