Randolph Freelander
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Having your cake and eating it too implies DRM-free, $400, and free multiplayer.
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PSN Plus needed to play online!!!
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Having your cake and eating it too implies DRM-free, $400, and free multiplayer.
PedroLumpy
Member
They setup a completely arbitrary barrier, and charged people to bypass it. Call it what you want.
NoirVisage
Banned
It wasa a good run, but I'll trade never playing a game online again, for for the ability to sell and buy preplayed games.
Anytime.
Anytime.
WoolyNinja
Member
PS4 - $399 + $60 (for mp) = $459
Xbox - $499 + $60 (for mp, netflix, etc) = $559
The maths don't lie here. It's still $100 difference.
Xbox - $499 + $60 (for mp, netflix, etc) = $559
The maths don't lie here. It's still $100 difference.
razgriz417
Member
I'm already a Plus subscriber since I love the free games, but this sucks :/ I'll hold it against them but it wont keep me from getting a PS4 though.
I dread they'll be there, I just hope that Sony at least allows exceptions where it makes sense, and F2P is one such area I'd think, or hope.
That's the scary thing though. Because online is now behind a paywall, Sony will become complacent with the service and offer less free games and discounts because "gamers will pay for PS+ anyways to play online so who needs the other stuff".
This type of reasoning is EXACTLY why online is now behind a paywall.
Exactly. Multiplayer optional, folks. Remember that!
Just because they aren't doing activation checks and requiring internet access doesn't mean that they won't try to at least hinder reselling or taking a cut of it with online passes.
Did Sony explicitly say they were tying in online multiplayer features with Playstation Plus or is each game a case by case basis?
In any case, the no-DRM announcement was a really clever way to rile up the crowd and divert attention while they slipped and wizzed by the PS+ requirement.
Did Sony explicitly say they were tying in online multiplayer features with Playstation Plus or is each game a case by case basis?
In any case, the no-DRM announcement was a really clever way to rile up the crowd and divert attention while they slipped and wizzed by the PS+ requirement.
The games they've offered to SCEA members have been pretty bad until this month. It's not worth it if you don't play the games they give you. As far as discounts, they don't mean anything if a person doesn't buy.
Randy Monk
Member
Its called PC gaming.
Knux-Future
Banned
It sucks but hey 2/3 isn't so bad right?
This and the meh launch lineup makes the wii U more likely tho.
But I want to support sony for not having DRM...
This and the meh launch lineup makes the wii U more likely tho.
But I want to support sony for not having DRM...
I don't get this either. It's all we heard this console generation but now it doesn't matter cause PS+ gives you free games. Or it doesn't matter because you have it already (I'm a PS+ subscriber).
Rollo Tomasi
Member
Where do you get this idea from?
Gintoki313
Banned
I wonder this too? I watched the conference and i don't remember them saying something like this. I need me some quotes for a DEFINITE confirmation of this, because this is pretty big.
That's what has pissed me off really. Since I already pay a sub for one and that's coming to PS4 and an added extra cost too, plus there are even more costs in game as well. It's just added crap. Plus PC players won't have it and PS3 player won't either, makes no sense for PS4 players to have an added payment.
BadAss2961
Member
I'm Playstation all the way and I agree with this.
It was at the bottom of a video slide with Yoshida during the conference, but we haven't heard anything from the actual mouths of Sony guys in detail, which is who I want to hear from. If they promise subscription bundles or something that might make it a bit easier to swallow.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
So you're only going to play multiplayer for one year? If you only buy a PS4 for a 7 year generation. $399+$350 = $749
Well Sony has done a good job getting people to rationalize that this should ever be a tradeoff in the first place.
There should never be restrictions on the ability to sell and buy used games. There's no room for negotiation here, it's just not acceptable.
There should never be a paywall for p2p multiplayer. It's not acceptable.
Not everyone thinks of it as PS4 vs Xbone.
To me, it's PS4 vs new graphics card.
Shit, I could buy a new card today, upgrade in a few years and still have it cost less than PS4 + Plus.
Personally I'm donating $50 for that bitchslap on MS.
LightOfTruth
Member
Wait, so I get Driveclub for free if I get PS+? If thats the case then I dont care about this actually lol
ShyGuy0504
Member
No DRM and $399 price is great. PS+ is awesome. Having to pay to play online is not.
This was pretty much guaranteed to happen though. Sony saw the money Microsoft made by charging for online and wanted in on it.
I'm partly to blame. I was an XBL gold member for 5 years.
This was pretty much guaranteed to happen though. Sony saw the money Microsoft made by charging for online and wanted in on it.
I'm partly to blame. I was an XBL gold member for 5 years.
Incitemaybe
Member
Not happy about it but 5 a month isn't too bad as long as THERE ARE NO FUCKING ADS.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Madrugador
Member
It's a big deal in my case because me and two of my brothers use my PS3. We are not getting three subscriptions...
At least we'll always have free online on PC.
At least we'll always have free online on PC.
Because MS does the same freaking thing with XBL Gold and proved that people are willing to pay a yearly subscription for just online multiplayer, and Sony knows that. They could phase out all the other PS+ benefits gradually and still have people subscribing for the online multiplayer, which worries me.
I don't see online multiplayer being put behind Plus as bad because it is already a great service, I see it as bad because I think Sony will cheapen the service once they get everyone onboard.
And if you buy an XBO it will be $859....still a $100 difference. Are you being intentionally obtuse?
They had 15 months of Plus for $50 a bit ago.
OriginalNameGuy
Member
The beginning of the end
5 bucks a month isn't gonna hurt my pockets, but this spells trouble for the future in my eyes. Buttering us up and easing us into something far worse later on
5 bucks a month isn't gonna hurt my pockets, but this spells trouble for the future in my eyes. Buttering us up and easing us into something far worse later on
I don't think paying for online is good either, but it was pretty much the endpoint of the PS+ experiment. It didn't surprise me at all. I don't blame anyone for opting out of paid multi, but it's a better value than Gold for sure.
GekigangerV
Member
Unless I missed a price increase PS+ is only $50 a year.
Jmanunknown
Member
This hurt bad and i'm a ps plus member who mostly plays single player games. I understand why they locked multiplayer behind a pay wall but, it sucks so bad it almost ruined all the good news they had. I wonder how this effects all those free to play games coming to ps4 will they be locked behind the pay wall? They hit so many good notes with the price point and no drm thing but, this was just a downer.
josecitoxnyo
Member
The benefits of PS+ are way better to complain about this, it was a logic called and i´m ok with it.
Based Sony.
Based Sony.