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PlayStation: Bid On Items With Gold Trophies (CFW cheaters winning)

Ocaso

Member
The CFW PS3 crowd are gonna have a field day with this. Even if they went back to Official Firmware, their trophy unlocking will probably still stand.

Sadly this appears to be the case. It has rendered the whole exercise pointless for everyone else. At least the raffle system mentioned before could have given non-cheaters a chance. Cool idea, unfortunate circumstances, flawed execution.
 

Usobuko

Banned
975 gold for one item. So this is a contest that even the highest trophies users has difficulty to win more than one item?

/I'm out.
 

kuYuri

Member
Finally got home and checked to see that I have 119 gold trophies. Still not even half the amount to bid on this stuff.

I'm too short to wear any of these costumes comfortably anyway. :\
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Told ya 1,000+ Gold Trophies as entry fee was gonna be the costume thing

If this thing hovers over 2,000+, every item will skyrocket in price no matter what

The first item will set precedence for the rest

When you have over 500+ Gold and that's considered worthless, it's not even 1%, it's the 0.01% of that 1% lol

GraverobberX am cry

No, I'm not

I knew this was going to get owned by cheaters/team or grouped accounts way before when they said Gold Trophies = Bidding

Most of us legit players knew that cheaters with 15,000+ Trophies will take most items
 

Qvoth

Member
i have 0 gold trophies...
i have dishonored my ancestors! ; ;

i might really start giving a damn about this trophy shit if this goes on to be a thing and not just a 1 time event
 
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damn..
 

kurbaan

Banned
I thought i would have a decent number of trophies this thing made me realize i only have 11 gold...makes me feel sad.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Might really start giving a damn about this trophy shit if this goes on to be a thing and not just a 1 time event

This will be a one time thing

If they ever bring it back will be for PS5 release

I highly doubt Sony will be using this as catalyst, it would be really beneficial to Sony and their partners, but it will get played out if they keep rehashing this
 
Super weird. Interesting, but super weird. I can see this making trophies something I would actually be incentivized to go get.

Would be interesting if this was testing the waters for a trophy based market place. (Like a Club Nintendo type thing but based on playing the game rather than just buying it.) Might convince people to hang onto games longer too as a side effect.
 

Ghazi

Member
No, I'm not

I knew this was going to get owned by cheaters/team or grouped accounts way before when they said Gold Trophies = Bidding

Most of us legit players knew that cheaters with 15,000+ Trophies will take most items

I'm just pulling your leg man, I don't understand how they don't have a system in place to stop this kind of thing though.
 
Does SCEA have no idea how cheated and manipulaed the PS3 trophy system has become? Only Vita trophies should be eligible.

This is not only a complete joke, but massive disrepect from them towards their system feature. Pretend not to even acknowledge any manipulation, then do this.
Another half-baked idea from the western Sony branches, much like the unprofessional PS Store redesign.

And why does everyone seem to hate on MP costumes and such, but when it's for a contest, it's all cool? I guess the press/forum high Sony is getting lately is also getting to people's heads.
From what I see this is all just digital content (skin codes). To demean myself "bidding" against cheaters for that, regulated by an out of touch company branch, I could really care less.
 

RMI

Banned
this is cool, but it would have been better if they let you assign your trophies as raffle tickets instead, that way everyone could play. This promotion is going to be meaningless to like 90% of the community.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I'm just pulling your leg man, I don't understand how they don't have a system in place to stop this kind of thing though.

Microsoft see Achievements as an investment, they try govern their system, to keep things fair and balanced
If a hacker gets a ridiculous GS within a 1 month time frame and reach #1, they get banhammered with the quickness

Sony created their system to just combat MS
They didn't think it fully through, it was an add-on, which they though would be just a bullet point
Luckily for them, it caught on and created a sub-community that spends good hard earned cash and keep putting money into Sony's pocket
The ineptness of PS3 + PSN Network is the cause of this

For Sony Trophies are the Wild West for them, not enough sheriffs or bylaws to wrangle them in
Hopefully PS4 and their future outlook, can maybe fix the system a little, but the damage is already done for the foreseeable future

CFW has made a mockery of the system
You can purchase Platinums by Second Account Trick
Most top guys are teams of players working together and racking up the trophies
You then have Save Hacks abuse on certain titles, just copy/paste and Insta-Ping till Platinum
Then you have Game Genie (hex editor), that changes values in games and makes earning trophies way easier and still lets you earn trophies
I mean if you give yourself 100 million gil in FFXIII, you really don't have to grind that much for the weapons, you can just buy them outright

Did you expect millions of people to have a chance at 15 items?

If Sony was smart they would have

1 Gold Trophy = 1 Raffle Ticket

Use all your raffle tickets on 1 item to increase your odds or spread them out to multiple bids

I mean right now, you have to be @ the top of the leaderboards like < 50 and even then you have to compete with accounts that most just cheated to get their trophies

So yes if Sony was smart, they would have leveled the playing field and balanced it to that even 1 Gold trophy gave you a fucking chance

This promotion is going to be meaningless to like 99.99% of the community.

FTFY
 
So yes if Sony was smart, they would have leveled the playing field and balanced it to that even 1 Gold trophy gave you a fucking chance

If SCEA was smart, PS3 trophies wouldn't even count. You said it yourself it's an unfair playing field to a huge extent. Even with that raffle system, it'd be unfair. Only Vita trophies should be counted.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Only Vita trophies should be counted.

Come on jeff, Vita Trophies only

That would piss off more people than the way this bidding is taking place

Cause you would be giving a huge middle finger to millions upon millions of PS3 users

Remember this was greatness awaits campaign for PS4, so they were going to use PS3 as a currency tactic, they just didn't fully think it through

SCEA has had so many missteps, it's amazing it's still a branch of Sony
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
Did you expect millions of people to have a chance at 15 items?

A chance? Yeah. Make it a raffle.

In theory making it how it is benefits the most hardcore of players but in reality it's going to mean the cheaters sweep the contest.
 

Gamespawn

Member
Maybe they'll add better stuff as they go through the promotion. It seems a lot of people are burning up their golds on the first day.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Maybe they'll add better stuff as they go through the promotion. It seems a lot of people are burning up their golds on the first day.

If you get outbid, you get your Gold Trophies Bid Points back

It's not if you use them, you lose them

There's a reason 975 is the new # to beat
The more this prolongs and the higher gold trophy guys see this, the more they will bet

Right now promotion started, so not everyone is in on it
I wouldn't be surprised by tomorrow morning the bid is up to 1,500+

They already showed us the 15 items that will be bid on for the 15 days the event is running
So yeah, the top guys already have bookmarked and are waiting for the item they want and will bid their amount and take the item
 
If Sony was smart they would have

1 Gold Trophy = 1 Raffle Ticket

Yeah, that sounds like a significantly better idea. It would also be cool if they just did this with smaller items. It could operate sort of like Club Nintendo. Every year, you could use the trophies you've acquired to get a couple of small items.
 
If SCEA was smart, PS3 trophies wouldn't even count. You said it yourself it's an unfair playing field to a huge extent. Even with that raffle system, it'd be unfair. Only Vita trophies should be counted.

Only in a perfect world ;)


I have 471 golds but I know I got no chance in this even if I lived in the States.

Yeah, that sounds like a significantly better idea. It would also be cool if they just did this with smaller items. It could operate sort of like Club Nintendo. Every year, you could use the trophies you've acquired to get a couple of small items.

I really hope they'll go the Club Nintendo route.
 
If you get outbid, you get your Gold Trophies Bid Points back ...They already showed us the 15 items that will be bid on for the 15 days the event is running
Yeah, it's the combination of these two things that makes it meaningless for most. If bidding was permanent, and all the future items were secret, then it wouldn't matter if a handful of folks have thousands of gold trophies. Most of them would use up their golds fighting each other in early rounds, or else they'd skip some entirely and hope to see something better later. That'd increase the chances that people with a lower total could snipe a couple of the auctions.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Well the winner of the first Killzone costume is a cheater

He has too many game completed with the 1 week 11 hours playtime

http://psnprofiles.com/redsoxfan95

Such bullshit

So 1 Cheater claims their greatness...

Yeah 1 hour and 29 minutes to Platinum Just Cause 2, yeah very fucking legit!
 
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Deleted member 80556

Unconfirmed Member
our reactions when we see most of the bidders getting banned.

Haha, yeah sure. I bet the the people at Sony are just thinking that they have big trophy hunters as fans instead of just checking their trophies dates.

Who do I give my anger filled complaint?!

EDIT: I tweeted yosp in a passive aggressive manner (not really), I hope he can pass it along.
 
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