IncandescentPrecept
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I would like to understand why a console os would need over 3G of GDDR5. It does not compute.
Why would it need more than 4GB of RAM just for the game?
I would like to understand why a console os would need over 3G of GDDR5. It does not compute.
So all of the sudden people aren't supposed to care about console specs anymore? Why?
"Sources"
How about we all don't over-react until matters are further clarified?
Disappointing news. So it's not that different from Xbox 1 apart from a slightly better GPU.
I was tempted but I'll be sticking with PC.
which if true doesn't bode well. 3 months from release and the OS is still going through major overhauls??? 3months from release you should be feature set and polishing up, not adding and removing features.
Why? what changed? have I missed something?
Also when you have a number of "sources" saying different things, the few within DF's article, and then others on GAF. I think you should consider retracting the article for a short time because there will be only one true set of numbers Sony has given to developers, I mean having conflicting sources isn't a sign of validity, it's the opposite!
Why? what changed? have I missed something?
Why are people crying?
176GB/s at 60FPS = 2.93GB
176GB/s at 30FPS = 5.86GB
Why are people crying?
176GB/s at 60FPS = 2.93GB
176GB/s at 30FPS = 5.86GB
No you would be wrong .
XB1 5GB for games .
PS4 4.5GB guaranteed plus 512MB flex making it 5GB for games.
So right now they have the same amount .
which if true doesn't bode well. 3 months from release and the OS is still going through major overhauls??? 3months from release you should be feature set and polishing up, not adding and removing features.
I would like to understand why a console os would need over 3G of GDDR5. It does not compute.
SMH, apart from:
8GB DDR3 vs 8GB GDDR5
1.2 vs 1.84TFLOPs
Mandatory Kinect vs No Kinect
Different boxes and controllers
yes they're not that different
In the history of consoles these two are pretty much siblings. Never before have two consoles been so similar.
Also when you have a number of "sources" saying different things, the few within DF's article, and then others on GAF. I think you should consider retracting the article for a short time because there will be only one true set of numbers Sony has given to developers, I mean having conflicting sources isn't a sign of validity, it's the opposite!
In the history of consoles these two are pretty much siblings. Never before have two consoles been so similar.
What i am most intrigued by and fascinated with, is not even the RAM, or any console, but November-December-January NPD and Media Create sales. If this is any indication how most people react in regards to just merely RAM numbers then once sales numbers come out i am pretty sure it will be a massacre, unlike anything anyone has ever seen on this forum.
Its like a overtly aggressive rattlesnake in the tall grass, even looking at it and it starts to rise up and hiss
When Valve decides to unveil its Steambox pc-console hybrid next year I just hope that will be the end of consoles as we know them.
I would like to understand why a console os would need over 3G of GDDR5. It does not compute.
Those guys are Xbox fanboys. Let's just state that clear.
Whether true or not, the pull the string favorably for Xbox in their opinions. No different that some on here. You just can't quote everyone and take them to court over their rubbish.
Just another nail on consoles for me. I was extremely disappointed from the beginning knowing these "next-gen" systems won't even be able to provide 1080p/60fps for most games. We waited 10 years to jump from 720p to 1080p?
When Valve decides to unveil its Steambox pc-console hybrid next year I just hope that will be the end of consoles as we know them.
I'm not very tech savvy, but can't microsoft and sony free up space with updates? But otherwise I don't really see what is the problem with this news.
It's rare for a console to get a spec upgrade in the middle of its life. However, Sony has stealthily upgraded the PS3 over the past few months to unlock additional usable RAM for developers. Much like the PSP received a boost in clock speed, the latest firmware updates provide developers an additional 70MB of RAM to work with. The change was initially discovered by PlayStation University, noting the reduction in the system OS's memory footprint, from 120MB to 50MB. As the OS continues to slim down, developers are allowed access to even more usable system memory.
John Bellomy ‏@cowbs
Reading the comments on these OS mem articles (first mistake) ... There are not enough palms to face.
timtheterrible ‏@timtheterrible1
@cowbs Interesting...but your comment implies that the comments are silly, and not the article itself.
John Bellomy ‏@cowbs
@timtheterrible1 mostly reacting to people extrapolating the implications to ridiculous degrees.
he's not denying it.
That guy is the source of the update to the article.
John Bellomy ‏@cowbs
Reading the comments on these OS mem articles (first mistake) ... There are not enough palms to face.
timtheterrible ‏@timtheterrible1
@cowbs Interesting...but your comment implies that the comments are silly, and not the article itself.
John Bellomy ‏@cowbs
@timtheterrible1 mostly reacting to people extrapolating the implications to ridiculous degrees.
he's not denying it.
What i am most intrigued by and fascinated with, is not even the RAM, or any console, but November-December-January NPD and Media Create sales. If this is any indication how most people react in regards to just merely RAM numbers then once sales numbers come out i am pretty sure it will be a massacre, unlike anything anyone has ever seen on this forum.
Its like a overtly aggressive rattlesnake in the tall grass, even looking at it and it starts to rise up and hiss
Why would he need to be transparent about a non issue though?
It's like some TMZ level garbage some are looking for here.
ps4 is dying
The games done this gen with 256/512mb looked amazing, this will be more than enough
We don't need you playing patrol. If you're not going to specifically call out people being disingenuous, then please don't post this at all. Let me know if this is unclear.I really hope the people saying this is "not a big deal, totally expected, won't affect games" weren't in previous threads over the past few months calling MS and Nintendo a joke for their RAM allocations.
Not saying that Sony deserves to be reverse trolled but it's obvious that some Sony fans feel disappointed and some MS fans feel vindicated, because everyone had taken the 7 vs 5 comparison as gospel, even the major news sites.
It takes quite a bit of cognitive dissonance to hold MS over the flames for "lol 3GB non-gaming media box" while simultaneously championing Sony for their "forward thinking." If be amazed if their weren't as many posters expressing surprise. And to the insiders who have suddenly decided to share this with us and explain why it's not a big deal - thanks for nothing for the past 3 months of stupidity that you probably could have helped defuse.
Edit: And this kind of situation goes a loooong way in explaining why the PS4 and One games we saw at E3 looked so similar. The "tangible difference" crowd will probably have to wait until Uncharted 4 before they have a graphical showpiece.
Tweets are from yesterday aren't they?
John Bellomy ‏@cowbs
Reading the comments on these OS mem articles (first mistake) ... There are not enough palms to face.
timtheterrible ‏@timtheterrible1
@cowbs Interesting...but your comment implies that the comments are silly, and not the article itself.
John Bellomy ‏@cowbs
@timtheterrible1 mostly reacting to people extrapolating the implications to ridiculous degrees.
he's not denying it.
The games done this gen with 256/512mb looked amazing, this will be more than enough
I figure bish deleted that other thread for a reason...
I'm not very tech savvy, but can't microsoft and sony free up space with updates? But otherwise I don't really see what is the problem with this news.