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Microsoft clarifies: FIFA 14 only free for pre-orders in "Tier 1" countries

Nzyme32

Member
aaah the constant MS small print. every xbox one should come with a magnifying glass so people can read between the lines in case it wasn't obvious already
 

Cels

Member
Flow chart very helpful but MS needs to be better with its messaging, I imagine there will be some confused "tier 2" Europeans out there...
 

jaosobno

Member
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no insults taken. and sorry if i do not the basics of taxes. but as i live in Saudi Arabia. we do not have taxes at all. " or maybe the tax is included in the items we pay" but no one mentions it and we didn't study it :)

the only place where i had to pay tax is when i was in Canada studying in the University :) " and even then i got almost all the tax i paid back when i finished"

No one talks about taxes in Saudi Arabia? You don't even know that they exist? That's very interesting. In any case, you do pay taxes. Taxes are what keeps your society going. There'd be no military, police, fireworkers, hospitals, roads and the like without them. Thankfully for you, you live in one of the world's wealthiest countries, so you don't need to care too much. The oil pays for most of that. Taxes are low in Saudi Arabia. 0% VAT, which I think is what you were talking about, and only 2.5% income tax. That's quite ridiculous compared to Europe. Corporate tax is 20% though.

I know, but some people seems to read just the title of the thread rather than whole post.

Yeah, that's the worst part of NeoGAF. It's like that in pretty much every thread :/
 

Alchemist

Member
however those who pre-order the console now will not get any games for free with their system, at least nothing has been announced for now.

This must be a mistake. Wasn't the whole point of this to boost pre-orders? Those who pre-ordered are already convinced smh.

One step forward, two steps back.
 

Duo014

Member
I'm so pissed of it's Unbelievable. Yesterday i was like wil pre-order him in a couple of days, fifa and an extra one or two games in the package makes it al up, the wait, the price, arrogance, now i get nothing, absolutly nothing.
 

WoolyNinja

Member
Microsoft has done this since the initial announcement show. It feels like they think gamers are stupid and if they wave a shiny thing in front of gamers faces that we'll eat it up and won't bother researching further. Soon it'll be, "Get a free car with the XboxOne" with the fine print reading "Only if you go out and buy a new car yourself after you purchase the XboxOne".

I seriously don't understand what happened with them. For the first few years of the PS3/360 gen they were killing it. Is it because they lost a couple of people like J Allard? Just doesn't make sense.
 

Alx

Member
It's not hard to understand, but the way they're relaying the information in small bits really speaks something about what's going on with Games division at the moment.

All that info was in both original press release, I think it was clear enough from the start. The confusion comes from people gathering indirect information from hearsay and partial reports/translations of other declarations.

It's everything that's wrong with communication on the internet : everything was clearly stated in the official sources, but the more people talk about it without reading them, the more confusing it gets.

It feels like they think gamers are stupid

As if you needed small drawings to make them understand how preorders work...
 

Pallad1um

Member
man. so tier 2 europeans, how do you feel?

Microsoft continues the trend of shooting itself on the foot... why couldn't the program extend to all the pre-orders? I wont buy a Xbox One or PS4 on launching day, but if I did, I would buy a PS4. And I have a X360 and not a PS3.

Portugal was already a major Sonyland (attending to the country size and population) and I believe most of the fans Microsoft had managed to get here will change sides.
 

Krilekk

Banned
All that info was in both original press release, I think it was clear enough from the start. The confusion comes from people gathering indirect information from hearsay and partial reports/translations of other declarations.

It's everything that's wrong with communication on the internet : everything was clearly stated in the official sources, but the more people talk about it without reading them, the more confusing it gets.



As if you needed to make them small drawings to make them understand how preorders work...

Word! Every preorder in the delayed tier 2 countries gets one game for free (supposedly Kinect Sports Rivals or Forza 5). Every preorder in the european tier 1 countries gets FIFA 14 for free (as a downloadable copy, not preinstalled). Every preorder in other tier 1 markets might get a game as well, nothing announced yet.
 
This is all about keeping pre-orders from being canceled, not about boosting sales. They know their preorder numbers behind the scenes are a disaster and this is desperation. I don't know how many times it needs to be stated before people get that.
 

cripterion

Member
Not looking to preorder cause I still don't know which console to get but wait, where in hell did they say you would get 2 AAA games for free if you preordered before August 20???

If this is true, MS communication is really shitty has it would surely have pushed me over into preordering early knowing I was getting 2 full games with the price of the console alone :/
 
Adding such a sweetener to just pre-orders doesn't make MS seem very confident about the XBO's chances in Europe.

They can't sell out on launch day just based on hype? It's now like we are expecting huge quantities to be available.
 

Chili

Member
The other thing is it looks like this is just for the Day One editions. Amazon UK has already run out of these and is only selling the standard edition which it looks like doesn't include FIFA.
 
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Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
Well what the fuck did you think 'Tier one' meant?

/Microsoft spokesperson
 
Seriously? Microsoft needs to come out and offer or comment on US/Canada. I feel fuckin cheated since I don't live in EU. Is my money just not as important to them?

What the fuck.
 

Krilekk

Banned
Seriously? Microsoft needs to come out and offer or comment on US/Canada. I feel fuckin cheated since I don't live in EU. Is my money just not as important to them?

What the fuck.

Seems like NA preorder numbers are good. Oh and $499 = 373 € but instead we pay 499 €. The free game just reduces the premium price we have to pay in Europe. Even with taxes included X1 should not cost more than 450 € compared to the US.
 

~~Hasan~~

Junior Member
No one talks about taxes in Saudi Arabia? You don't even know that they exist? That's very interesting. In any case, you do pay taxes. Taxes are what keeps your society going. There'd be no military, police, fireworkers, hospitals, roads and the like without them. Thankfully for you, you live in one of the world's wealthiest countries, so you don't need to care too much. The oil pays for most of that. Taxes are low in Saudi Arabia. 0% VAT, which I think is what you were talking about, and only 2.5% income tax. That's quite ridiculous compared to Europe. Corporate tax is 20% though.

omg @ 20%.. fuck dat lol
 
Seems like NA preorder numbers are good. Oh and $499 = 373 € but instead we pay 499 €. The free game just reduces the premium price we have to pay in Europe. Even with taxes included X1 should not cost more than 450 € compared to the US.

Yes but if these are literally only going to current preorders it's like saying, here thanks for the money EU. NA fuck you.
 
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