I've been racking my brain for a bit and can't think of anything
maybe try checking that developers on ps4 list and see if anything matches?
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Hey, how come Sony didn't invest in any big 3rd party exclusives?
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I've been racking my brain for a bit and can't think of anything
maybe try checking that developers on ps4 list and see if anything matches?Are lockstarter and lazyeyes code names for other developers or are they some new people we haven't heard of yet
PanicFreak
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I completely agree. We don't know how far out into the future (or how far back in time) Microsoft has allocated that $1 billion. I'm certain that the content development money will increase as other projects (read: sequels) get the green light so at the end of the generation, they will have spent in excess of $1 billion.
I also agree that the PS4 is more important to Sony than the Xbox is to Microsoft. However, if rumors are true and Apple, Amazon and Google are going to make serious plays at the television, I don't see Microsoft willingly ceding any territory they have earned over the last 12 years.
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Lockstarter = Rockstar
Lazyeye = activision
come on guys
edit: I guess the one hinting at a game is lockstarter - Bully
where do I collect my price?
Then they need to ditch the "media apps behind paywall" strategy because Apple and Google's solutions aren't forcing you to pay extra to access the subscription apps you already pay for.
They are like the only "living room media solution" device on the planet doing this. (that I know of)
Its the long game. 3rd parties are fickle to some degree. They will put their titles on whatever consoles are popular and fit within the parameters of the games they make. If you rely heavily on them, then your exclusive advantage can shift as it did with MS this gen. Sony could no longer lay claim to MGS, GTA, FF, etc anymore. And with a competitor like MS that has the money to hang around, and is willing to pay to play so to speak; competition becomes even more costly.
Thusly, the route they've chosen is to make the new (hits). Titles they can rely on, reap the pure benefits of, and hopefully give them a difference maker.
The reality of the industry as it stands now, with the install base (essentially split down the middle) and the cost of development, 3rd parties aren't going to be exclusive to either side. The only reason you see it now is because its at the start of a new generation where the install base is low, development for them [3rd parties] is high, and thus its cheaper for MS or Sony to pay for a timed exclusivity. Notice that this is mainly on new unproven IP or smaller teams. As time moves forward, and the install bases grows, and the growth of a franchise is realized both in adoption by consumers and revenue, 3rd party exclusives will fall to the wayside as for companies like Sony and MS it becomes more costly to pay for that big game, and for 3rd parties that game generates too much revenue to limit it to one console. Smaller studios, lacking the manpower, can still stay on one side and you see this happening today. The question for MS and Sony's is was the investment worth it. Take for instance TitanFall, a game most believe will become multiplatform. MS's gamble is that it can get that exclusivity for a time long enough to entice you to get an Xbox. Once you've made your purchase, you've chosen a side, and it doesn't matter if it loses the exclusivity, because you'll get all your future titles on the Xbox anyway. The people more likely to spend the most on games are the hardcore and they happen to make up the majority of the early adopters. They are the least likely to wait...so if you snag them early, you've got them. They'll likely be content on 3rd party offerings and your 1st party offerings.
So Sony's gamble is that the games they make will become the new hits, alongside the 3rd party hits that they'll get anyway. They assume this because 3rd parties stand to make more money across both consoles than one solely. The fact that the architectures are easy enough to make for easy ports makes this even more likely. This gen bears this part out. Sony has the benefit of more AAA experienced teams (some they acquire years ago at cheaper prices than today I would guess) So they can consistently produce more of those games theoretically.
So its different approaches. In the short term, MS will appear on par with Sony studio-wise, but many believe will stagnate as the generation matures (but they could be using that to bide time to build up their own studios). Sony won't seem to have the partnerships with 3rd parties in comparisons, cause they'll be banking on consumers liking their first party titles. Each approach has its strengths, weakness, and pitfalls.
MS has to hope the 3rd party games are appealing, and that gamers care. Likewise, Sony has to hope their titles resonate, and gamers stick it out to determine whether they like their games or not.
They who must not be named.
fair enough if you are talking about gaf fanboys in particular, but there are fourms out there where there are more Microsoft fans and they are playing off their opinions being facts.
SwiftDeath
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Interesting....
If lockstarter does equal rockstar
Then I hope Bully 2 is in the works for PS4 exclusive
Because I'm selfish
Doubt it would move consoles
Next red dead would be a megaton but unlikely
Honey Bunny
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I've been racking my brain for a bit and can't think of anything
Duh
AgentChris
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Your posts hype me even more than the press conferences.
Really hard to believe that Rockstar would make a console exclusive with the way the industry is today. I guess maybe if Sony co-funded.
Actually now I think about it, weren't they supposed to make an exclusive for Sony (Agent?) as recompense for breaking the GTAIV exclusivity deal? Is there a chance that deal still stands even 6 years on?
Actually now I think about it, weren't they supposed to make an exclusive for Sony (Agent?) as recompense for breaking the GTAIV exclusivity deal? Is there a chance that deal still stands even 6 years on?
Interesting
AgentChris
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Of course that deal will stand. SCE isn't going to allow R* to not cough up that exclusive.
TheBioLover
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What exclusive could Activision have for Sony? Surely not CoD.
I don't think lazyeye is activision
AgentChris
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Same...
Games like CoD, Battlefield, Fifa etc. would never be exclusive. They are far, far too big. Heck, even games that sell 5 million or so already across multiple platforms would be tough to secure.
Nice edit. Though technically it wouldn't be wrong I guess.
SwiftDeath
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Oh Verendus! You realize that people are gonna keep hounding you until Sony announces these.
I will take this as stealth confirmation of Verendus' post.
Sony played it right by getting games that people actually care about. You think the hardcore lining up really care about Ryse ro an Insomniac title? probably not. Titanfall sure, but we all know that's a 1 year exclusive and will be coming to PS4 anyway. Ryse looks underwhelming and whatever Insomniac is doing is far off anyway.
It's also smart of Sony because this complete indie dominance comes relatively cheap per title (probably porting support) and these titles have huge mind-share for hardcore gamers who make up the most early adopters.
It's also smart of Sony because this complete indie dominance comes relatively cheap per title (probably porting support) and these titles have huge mind-share for hardcore gamers who make up the most early adopters.
AgentChris
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I remember seeing the CEO himself with Hideo Kojima... I wonder what they talked about. I believe Kaz was the one who secured MGS4.
Are all of these PS4 games or are some Vita and PS3
Yes, it was Square Enix, I think he removed it because their exclusive will be a collaboration with SCEJ so it's technically not third party.
FFXIV is technically exclusive I guess. lol
Actually, MS is stupid for not bending their policy for that game. It's really fantastic and their loss.
Well technically there's FF14, unless he is referring to unannounced projects. Also ffx HD and kingdom hearts HD for PS3.
I wonder if it will be unveiled @ the 9/9 event
This is interesting. I thought the rumor was that Square collab-ed with Scej over FF15 which wasn't true. It must be a new IP
H_Prestige
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Yeah, if people are counting Titanfall as exclusive, then FFXIV fits the bill.
KoopaTheCasual
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I totally expect a Jet Set Radio revival, as one of the two Sega IPs.
There was something in the works with FF15 but when the new CEO came in, apparently those talks dried up. Ironically Wada was for the partnership.
Yeah, if you edit after a specific amount of time.
You can also add THE ORDER: 1886, I mean the studio has a history of working almost only on Sony hardware, but that has always been by circumstance and it's the situation is pretty much similar to what Ryse is probably doing.
And there are more than a few console exclusives, FFXIV, Warframe, that WWII game, etc.
And there are more than a few console exclusives, FFXIV, Warframe, that WWII game, etc.
Somebody quoted the one with SE you should ask them to remove if you really can't say anything or theres nothing there.
Well, if it included Ps3/Vita it would be a much longer list and include studios like Insomniac, who are developing R+C.
Titanfall,speaking in terms of exclusivity is in exactly the same boat as ff14. Titanfall will likely be on ps4 soon and ff14 can be on XB1 if they change their policies.
If it were any of those games i dont think he would have removed it.
Better online in what way?
Not bad. I did not know that.
It's okay.
I'll leak that one in 6-7 months since I don't like them anyway.
somesayyea
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well this thread just got super interesting
Lockstarter = Rockstar
Lazyeye = activision
come on guys
edit: I guess the one hinting at a game is lockstarter - Bully
where do I collect my price?
Don't forget we've been hearing hints that Rocksteady might be making an Exclusive for the PS4,
The Capcom title is Deep Down right? Btw do you know of any fighting games coming to Ps4. Its the one genre completely absent from the console library.
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