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New PS VITA LED compared to PS Vita OLED. (Screenshot)

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Betta Lines

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dark10x said:
It's no more green than the LCD shot and so subtle that it hardly matters.
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That depends on the game. MGS2HD on Vita used a bunch of greys in the menus, codec, etc that were just perfect at highlighting the green tinting. Vibrant games like Wipeout and Rayman just look spectacular and it's not at all apparent.

Heck, my shot has less green tiny than either of the other two.
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True, but that doesn't mean much as you're using a different camera - the point is that the OLED showed up more green in the dark colours than the LCD in the same photograph.

But then the OP's photo is the other way around, with the LCD appearing too green... I would suggest this is because that image is overall much brighter and more vibrant - something that the OLED is superb at displaying. It's only shadowy areas in games and lots of grey that highlight the OLED's issue with green.
 
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ToD_

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Some things I did notice on the OLED Vita screen is that the colors appear oversaturated, and the blacks are crushed to some degree. This isn't noticeable in games, but in video content it looks pretty bad, in my opinion.

Even with those flaws, however, I highly doubt the LCD would trump the OLED overall.
 
Dural

Dural

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H_Prestige said:
In terms of what matters for picture quality (black level, color saturation, motion response, viewing angles), there is no such thing as an LCD that matches OLED, let alone outclass it. It's pure fiction.

Can LCD get brighter? Sure. Can't beat LCD in its ability to burn your retinas off.
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No, color saturation is not what matters for picture quality. OLED is known for over saturating the color, what matters for picture quality is color ACCURACY and OLED can't touch LCD there.
 
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Tidesofblood

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The uncharted image isn't that bad in difference but the OPs image has a greenish tint. Could it be the camera used to take picture making green tint? Anyways team OLED glad I got one
 
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RM8

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It doesn't look bad, hyperboleGAF. But it does look huge :( I'm not sure which one I'll buy. I want burn in-less LCD, but I want the smaller version.
 
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Dec

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supaflyryguy said:
This is quite possibly the most useless comparison thread of all time. You are relying completely on the camera phone that is taking these pictures, which has its own rules for manipulating color, exposure, white balance etc. Just silly to compare two photos of a screens taken with a camera phone to see which screen is better.
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True, but specifically in the case of the image in the OP you can clearly see the LCD screen is over-saturated. The whites are piss yellow which doesn't show in the OLED screen. The camera may bring it out more, and not be a great comparison but I'd bet when we see good comparisons the whites will still look poor.

And of course the blacks will, compared to an OLED.
 
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krYlon

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Rm88~ said:
It doesn't look bad, hyperboleGAF. But it does look huge :( I'm not sure which one I'll buy. I want burn in-less LCD, but I want the smaller version.
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I think it's supposed to be the same size as the original. It's just the perspective (and the original is behind).
 
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H_Prestige

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Dural said:
No, color saturation is not what matters for picture quality. OLED is known for over saturating the color, what matters for picture quality is color ACCURACY and OLED can't touch LCD there.
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OLED can be as accurate or as inaccurate as any LCD.

A screen with zero black level cannot be over saturated. The colors are as vibrant as they should be. LCD is under-saturated by virtue of its weak black levels.
 
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dark10x

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Dural said:
No, color saturation is not what matters for picture quality. OLED is known for over saturating the color, what matters for picture quality is color ACCURACY and OLED can't touch LCD there.
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LCD does a poor job with accurate colors simply because, below a certain threshold, the display cannot cope. Darker shades never display properly on LCD.
 
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Toxa

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Pazuzu9 said:
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Yeah ok. Keep ignoring the green guys.
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the green tint is the real artistic intent dude
 
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razoftblend

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I didn't think the difference would be so great. That green tint is a real turn off for me whe you have the other screen on top. Glad I got the OLED one during the price drop.
 
ethomaz

ethomaz

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The assumptions in this thread that OLED is better is killing me :D

There are pros and cons in both techs... in a simple way LCD have better (vivid) colors and OLED better blacks.... the LCD have issues with view angles and OLED not but for a portable that you play close it won't be a issue.

To be fair the old Plasma is yet better in image quality than both OLED and LCD... I prefer OLED over LCD but OLED is not all better like GAFers are trying to make it be.
 
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Easy_D

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dark10x said:
LCD does a poor job with accurate colors simply because, below a certain threshold, the display cannot cope. Darker shades never display properly on LCD.
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I feel the ClearBlack display in the Lumia 920 does a pretty good job with displaying blacks though.
 
graywolf323

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it definitely looks worse in the Ragnarok image but I have some doubts on that comparison because the new one looks like it is set to a lower brightness

I'd want a more professional comparison before I'd pass judgment
 
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Shin Johnpv

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Pazuzu9 said:
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Yeah ok. Keep ignoring the green guys.
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This is a pretty shitty comparison. Mostly because the angles the two devices are being held at is different, and one has giant ass glare affecting the look of the screen.

I'm not saying that to support one argument or the other, just saying that is a shitty comparison shot and should be ignored.
 
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madmackem

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Beer Monkey said:
Remember when Nintendo would IMPROVE the display with each iteration?

Oh, Sony.
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How can you improve on oled atm? remember when nintendo started to remove things as well, gba slot etc. There is plenty of stock of og vitas if you want to save some money then you get cheaper units.
 
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$h@d0w

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Beer Monkey said:
Remember when Nintendo would IMPROVE the display with each iteration?
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Didn't the gameboy advance get progressively better (GBA - SP - SP AGS) but the DS Lite got progressively worse?

Seem to remember the Brain Age red and black models sucked ass.
 
BAW

BAW

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Someone should just ask Yoshida on twitter what kind of panel the new Vita uses. Maybe we will get an indication if it's any good.
 
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Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Dural said:
No, color saturation is not what matters for picture quality. OLED is known for over saturating the color, what matters for picture quality is color ACCURACY and OLED can't touch LCD there.
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Well, that's not really the case all the time. There are rare, correctly callibrated LCDs, true, like the one on Iphone 5 or Macbook retina, but I'd argue that doesn't mean all that much in games, and especially not on a device that has a single screen as a target. Developers see the screen and they adjust the colors for it, that's it. The way Vita OLED is callibrated is not oversaturated either. It just looks really damn good.

Where every single IPS LCD (those that have actual good colors) used on mobile devices fails miserably compared to OLED is ghosting. Try playing a 60FPS scrolling game like Rayman on Vita, and then play it on iPad 3 or 4. It's a blur-city on ipad in comparison. It's humorous how much difference there is in this regard.
 
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MikeXXIeaf

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So basically from what I can tell it'll come down to the game you're playing. Bright colors pop on OLED, darker colors not so much.

I'm still torn on which version I want.
 
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dreamfall

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I like my OLED Launch Vita, too much to switch things up.

And definitely not for a different screen!

If it comes out in Orange, maybe I'll come around to getting another one.
 
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LamerDeluxe

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OLED itself does not oversaturate color. The problem is most content is made using LCD displays, which have lower contrast and saturation (and probably a different gamma curve), content that looks good on those displays would appear too contrasty and saturated on an OLED display.
Vice-versa: Content made for the wider colorspace of an OLED display would look washed out on an LCD display.
 
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Pain

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New one looks worse but it's not a deal breaker. The slimmer form factor could be a selling point for many.
 
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